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GTX 1060 vs XBox One X at 4K
- Thread starter Alexandros
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I know the parts are listed, I was wondering if anyone had already done the legwork which is why I asked.
Maybe not with the 980 but a 980ti might be the better comparison. According to guru3d, a 980ti can average 37fps in Witcher 3 at ultra 4k (without hairworks)
TBH I play my Xbox One pretty much every day and haven't actually used my Gold subscription outside of downloading GWG titles in several months.
I have a PC with a 1060, 16gb ram, Ryzen. Honestly, I don't feel like the machine is up to 4K in most situations. I have a 1440P monitor, and that's a better resolution to aim for. Sometimes 1080P with all the bells and whistles is the way to go.
That's the main issue with the Pro and X. It's nice to have graphical options, because sometimes the trade off for higher resolutions isn't worth it. It's great when developers give you a few choices, but it doesn't always happen. Still, impressive bang for buck performance here no doubt!
That's the main issue with the Pro and X. It's nice to have graphical options, because sometimes the trade off for higher resolutions isn't worth it. It's great when developers give you a few choices, but it doesn't always happen. Still, impressive bang for buck performance here no doubt!
Well, XB1X runs at a dynamic resolution. It runs at 1800p in graphically intense scenes, and up to 2160p when not much is going on. It also drops as low as 1440p during some cutscenes.
XB1X settings are basically PS4 Pro settings with better shadows. Ultra PC settings are quite a bit better than the mid-gen versions.
So it's difficult to compare settings. But I'd say yeah, a 980 should be able to run it at settings comparable to XB1X.
lol, linustechtips just did an early access volta card test and its mining performance is doubled current cards. if anything prices are going to keep increasing unless the whole mining thing bottoms out hard.
Not surprised AMD is going hard in mining. After their lucrative(lol) console contracts and that Intel NUC what else do they have? I know Nvidia has their fingers in many pies but they continue to push their gaming side with hardware and software. Interested to see what Nvidia feels about mining vs gaming: Can they provide for both or will they decide to sacrifice one to chase the other in which case mining will be the overwhelming favorite to win that argument.
Until crypto mining either explodes into even bigger mainstream popularity or comes into government purview I feel like its in a limbo state and PC gamers will be left behind. Why are GPUs even used for mining? Is there some intrinsic reason or are they the best hardware currently available to handle the task. Is it possible if mining becomes more popular then other tech/hardware might become available solely used for mining that might be better than GPUs?
I do and many others also do. What are you trying.to shoehorn into this thread? Wait let me take a guess.....
I always thought a Xbox one X was/is equilivant to a 1070?
The value if the Xbox One X is great, I'm tempted to get one even if it's 600$ CAD. I wanted to upgrade my graphic card, cpu and memory but my R9-390 is selling for more that I bought it because of mining. The card is still fine for 1080p. But it's like 600$ for a 1070, almost a 1000$ for a Vega 56. So it would make more sense to get a X, that spending 1000$ and still not reach the same performance level. I don't have a 4K TV tho, I just wish TCL would sell the P série in Canada.
Can throw out any XB1X/PC comparisons out the window now. Mining and ram prices just make the comparison pointless.
I hope that the PC hardware market gets back to normal. Because if it doesn't, and prices stay this way, I might have built my last gaming PC.
I hope that the PC hardware market gets back to normal. Because if it doesn't, and prices stay this way, I might have built my last gaming PC.
Agreed this mining craze has made anything to do with a PC have crazy prices for GPU/RAM it's beyond nuts
Same GPU? [Doubt]
Even if it had the same power, Windows lacks low-level optimization.
I paid 340 for my 1060 in Canada just at launch . Xbox is 599. It's pretty good value ... But nothing extraordinary. Both have other costs involved but for the 1000 bucks pc was well worth it
If this is the case, I just hope a consoles can match the gaming library of a PC. That being said, besides the whole 4K advantage stuff, the XBX needs some catch up to do with its gaming libray compared to the Switch and PS4.
I like having options on a PC but it's great that this console exists as building a PC is terribly expensive now. Unfortunately, you have to reply on the dev releasing a patch for it to affect older games, right?
Yes, it's a rx580 and not a single game on one X runs games better than the 580. The 1060 just beat it overall and the rx580 is slightly better than the 1060...... That low level optimization stuff is overrated, this isn't 2005 anymore.
Theres simply no denying the X is a fabulous piece of machinery for the price. MS did a marvelous job in trying to reduce as many bottlenecks as their RRP would allow.
Well, it's simply a console.
Better visuals than a same-priced PC, but limited in terms of software.
For pure gamers who want great visuals, it's indeed an awesome deal.
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I think it's fine as a general impressions video. Not everything needs to be Digital Foundry, minor differences in visuals aren't important for most people.
If you're talking about the Titan V, I'm pretty sure that wasn't targeted as a gaming card. Just because used prices are weird right now doesn't mean that they can't get corrected with new cards. At this point I don't know if it even makes sense for them to greatly increase the supply on current cards because of how close new ones probably are.
Yeah the Titan V is for extreme processing stuff like machine learning. This is why it's really good at mining but only okay (actually sometimes worse than a 1080 Ti) at gaming. However, it would be good if Nvidia and AMD started making mining specific cards as this would not only keep the miners happy but also gamers since there wouldn't be competition for buying the gaming cards.
its not a target gaming card, they mention that in the video, but its mining efficiency, thanks to much better architecture, will carry over in the gaming versions.
there is massive demand for cards by miners. they will snap up all the new cards and sell off their older stock but because demand will continue to exceed supply many of those older cards will go to other miners.
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He's mentioned issues with his Elgato capture card before, my guess is that there was a technical glitch. He didn't comment on the game's framerate in a negative way so there's no issue there.
No insane, but good.
Those are all low power versions of GPU, CPU and RAM.
all the games he used are very favorable for nvidia gpus. id like to see if its still a good match in games that dont run as well on nvidia gpus, of which there have been quite a few lately
The Xbox is really good bang for the buck. I wonder what the future holds for it. As in, if it'll eventually fully replace the base model, or what'll happen.
I decided to upgrade my GPU instead (prior the the X release), as it benefitted more games for me. And with Play Anywhere it seemed the better option.
But if I didn't already have a PC to upgrade, I would have likely bought the X. May still, if I decide to replace my launch model.
I decided to upgrade my GPU instead (prior the the X release), as it benefitted more games for me. And with Play Anywhere it seemed the better option.
But if I didn't already have a PC to upgrade, I would have likely bought the X. May still, if I decide to replace my launch model.
That looks about right.
X is basically a RX 580 in terms of power that matches a GTX 1060.
The biggest advantage of the PC is the CPU that even the actual slowest ones are 2-3 times better than Jaguar on X.
X is basically a RX 580 in terms of power that matches a GTX 1060.
The biggest advantage of the PC is the CPU that even the actual slowest ones are 2-3 times better than Jaguar on X.
You are using an underclocked mobile version... even the specs are probably cut to reach a better power efficiency required by mobile.
As it is, especially given the current cryptocraze, the Xbox One X is the best value out there, you need to find some ridiculous used bargains to even get close to it for 500$, and the XBX also includes the input method (no extra mouse and keyboard needed), a 1TB HDD, etc.. Obviously, as it's been on consoles since like forever, you can buy better performing machines, but be ready to shell out a higher amount of cash. But this is normal, look at last-gen: when GTA V came out, you could play those graphics on consoles that were being sold sub-$200 at that point. Good luck putting together a PC running that game on identical specs for the same price in the same period of time. Consoles are obviously cheaper to buy-in and easier to use, and in particular the Xbox One X packs some hell of a punch. If you go for official retailers and not used you can't get Forza Motorsport 7 at stable 60fps at those settings on PC for 499$, and even going used you'd have a really hard time. And that's not even talking about the base Xbox or PS4 that you could snag for sub-200$ lately that, again, outperform the PCs that go for 200$ that are really, really low-level stuff.
I still wonder what MS did to Sony's approach of having onion and garlic busses which greatly reduced bandwidth available for the GPU which is the reason why Pro games sometimes run worse than we could expect and how that has an effect to overall performance. The biggest difference in architecture is that consoles have unified RAM which PC does not.
Onion = CPU bus to unified RAM, Garlic = GPU bus to unified RAM.
Well the 3gb version is a bit weaker and would struggle to keep up with VRAM requirements.
I believe that the 3GB card is totally different from the 6GB card is more in line with the old 970 card than 980
Ah, thank you for explaining it to me.
If the Xbox 1 X is keeping up with the higher version of the 1060, I think that's a good achievement.
Perhaps I have been ignoring the benches as of late, but were there game releases that saw a =<20% difference between the similar class NV and AMD GPUs?
Interesting that he does not mention HDR considering 4 titles have such fantastic implementation on the 1X. HDR easily flips Gears 4, Forza 7, Hitman and Witcher 3 for me. To each his own I guess.
Edit: 1 mention of HDR, and of course, it's that he prefers the SDR implementation. And using sharpening filters.......
Edit: 1 mention of HDR, and of course, it's that he prefers the SDR implementation. And using sharpening filters.......
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the evil within 2
battlefront 2
wolfenstien
shadow of war
dirt 4
dont know if they were all 20% or more, but def solid differentials
It never ceases to amaze me that having the best online ecosystem for multiplayer has somehow been spun into a negative thing over the years. This is Neo... I mean ERA... I mean... wait?!
I think it flips it for every one, the difference is instantly perceivable, but i dont think that has anything to do with performance (if your within the same performance range). However it would be a significant reason why and X version would be better to play. W3, Forza Horizon/7 and Gears come alive with HDR.