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Slayven

Never read a comic in his life
Moderator
Oct 25, 2017
93,092
I am always amazed at the cottage industry ofonline cheat programs
 

StrangeADT

Prophet of Truth
Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,057
As long as the companies have tools in place to unban people who buy second hand(And can provide a receipt) I'm all for HWID bans.

However I'd wonder how hard this actually is to get reversed and if the CS teams are up for the task.
What kind of receipts are you getting from secondhand purchases that validates it isn't the same person?
 

JustinH

Member
Oct 27, 2017
10,398
I think that's a justification for schadenfreude.
Yeah, that's kind of what I was getting at, lol.

I just really dislike these people that cheat in multiplayer games so part of me is like "Serves you right, butt-face!" I really hope there aren't people out there getting like... false-flagged and banned because the unfortunately bought the wrong used mobo from someone who cheated, though.
 

chrisypoo

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,457
Yeah, that's kind of what I was getting at, lol.

I just really dislike these people that cheat in multiplayer games so part of me is like "Serves you right, butt-face!"
No yeah I was agreeing with you, I should have said good justification haha. I'm the same way, if you wanna cheat and fuck up someone else's time, then ya get what's coming to you. Completely agreed for sure. I remember back in the days of Modern Warfare 2, .....the skywalking tubers man lol. Woulda killed to see some bans dulled out back in those days ;).
 

UsoEwin

Banned
Jul 14, 2018
2,063
I mean good, but the pictures in the OP don't make the people seem like they are angry about it. Some even accepting.
 

Hailinel

Shamed a mod for a tag
Member
Oct 27, 2017
35,527
Hardware bans are really the only way to combat this problem when it's hurting the game enough.
 
Oct 25, 2017
1,760
Would be great if one day DICE would do something like this. BFV on PC is fucking dogshit now and it really doesn't seem like anything is being done.
 

JustinH

Member
Oct 27, 2017
10,398
No yeah I was agreeing with you, I should have said good justification haha. I'm the same way, if you wanna cheat and fuck up someone else's time, then ya get what's coming to you. Completely agreed for sure. I remember back in the days of Modern Warfare 2, .....the skywalking tubers man lol. Woulda killed to see some bans dulled out back in those days ;).
I guess that's why I don't feel bad about it. I mean these people are actively making the experience worse for everyone else, unless I guess they start hacking too just to keep up.

Then they tell two friends...
 

Hailinel

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Member
Oct 27, 2017
35,527
Imagine getting banned, and then creating multiple accounts to get around the ban, each one getting immediately banned in turn. At what point do you just throw in the towel and take the L?
 

ShinUltramanJ

Member
Oct 27, 2017
12,949
I'm surprised they owned up to it. I expected something along the lines of "help, I got banned and didn't do anything wrong".
 

Dekuman

Member
Oct 27, 2017
19,026
The losers who paid for hacking /cheating programs in an online game are the worst. It's too bad it didn't also blow up their computers.
 

MrH

Banned
Nov 3, 2017
3,995
Paying to cheat in a F2P game, that's when you know you're a sad fuck.
 

Cynn

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,285
I don't even understand why you would want to win constantly with cheating, the best matches are when its neck and neck.

such dickheads, got what they deserved.
Yeah I just can't understand what's so rewarding about it. I'm sure they think it's funny at first but after weeks of it?
 

gonzalezjo

Member
Apr 4, 2019
3
Why isn't hardware ID banning more of a thing? Or at least it doesn't seem like it is.
It is definitely a thing for free-to-play games, but there are two issues concerning it in general: (1) hardware ID spoofing, and (2) that it limits repeat-sales of a game and/or its in-game purchases. People who can afford to cheat can likely afford to (and will) spend money on the game--if not once, several times.

The upside of this is the corollary: cheaters tend to lose lots of money. See /r/vac_porn as an example.
 

TinfoilHatsROn

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
3,119
hardware ID banned? so if you purchased a used cpu/gpu/mobo/whatever, you could potentially be barred from certain games? 🤔
Hardware bans are bad because it means getting second hand parts could get you banned for no reasons
Well most hardware bans are suspected to be based around the combination of specific parts and MOBO to give you a unique kind of signiture, or close to one. Which probably helps to avoid false positives when a hacker sells their parts. But I'm no expert and Blizz/EA/Game companies haven't disclosed their methods.

And if worse comes to worse, you could try and contact support with a receipt. I'm sure CS would understand in that case.
 

StarStorm

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
7,599
People paying money to cheat in a F2P game?? That's pretty fucking low. Only to make fresh new accounts and get banned after a game. Maybe they should take a hint and not cheat rofl.

No remorse and fuck cheaters. Their tears give me joy.
 

Fularu

Member
Oct 25, 2017
10,609
If you buy a banned piece of computer hardware or console you were scammed and there are often remedies available to you that aren't 'don't ban cheaters.'
Where did anyone say "don't ban the cheaters"?

Don't put words into people's mouth if you have no arguments to make.

Buying banned consoles was a plague back in the 360 days and more often than not you had little recourses against the seller, even reputable ones.
 

Gentlemen

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,518
Where did anyone say "don't ban the cheaters"?

Don't put words into people's mouth if you have no arguments to make.

Buying banned consoles was a plague back in the 360 days and more often than not you had little recourses against the seller, even reputable ones.
I figured it was implied when you effectively said 'thing bad'

sorry for the misunderstanding.

I did have an argument though, and that was 'the very small number of problems caused in the secondary sale market caused by hardware bans is a necessary sacrifice to stem the much larger number of problems caused by the tidal wave of cheating taking place in popular online games.'

I'm open to some kind of middle ground here, like a petition mechanism to get hardware un-banned but I don't want it to be trivial.
 

Deleted member 1589

User requested account closure
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Oct 25, 2017
8,576
Think Ive only met one hacker in the game in the past week. Which is remarkedly much better than before when there were at least two or three in a single day.
 

PaJeppy

Banned
Nov 8, 2017
1,094
As someone who plays on PS4 and hasn't had to deal with hackers... This still makes me happy.

Used to run a server for a moderately popular fps back in the day and dealing with cheaters was incredibly infuriating at times.