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Hacker banwave hits apex legends. Hilarity ensues.

Jan 6, 2018
2,293
you know what would be cool, if there's a person who works at Respawn whose sole job invoves acting like one of these cheaters and getting in deep in their communities/forums so they can come up with ban detections as they are rolled out online
I’d watch that Anime
 

DrEvil

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Oct 25, 2017
550
Canada
HWID is a hash based on the cumulative components in your PC. If you change a single component, your HWID changes.

New video card? It’s different.
New ram? Different.
Remove a pci card? Different.


No single piece of hardware actually gets banned, so buying used components from a banned machine carries zero risk of being banned yourself.
 
Jun 10, 2018
160
Whelp, they shouldn't have been cheating in the first place. It's their problem. I have no sympathy for people who were actually cheating in a multiplayer game. I don't understand how someone can find that fun.
 
Oct 25, 2017
290
Oh man, there's nothing I love more than a good banwave and all the bullshit that flows from the people banned afterwards.

 
Oct 25, 2017
852
Hardware bans are bad because it means getting second hand parts could get you banned for no reasons
meh.

this would only affect a niche of a niche of a niche. people will sometimes try to sell you straight up broken hardware too, there's always a risk buying used.
 
Oct 27, 2017
3,549
ZzzzzzZzzzZzz...
It is definitely a thing for free-to-play games, but there are two issues concerning it in general: (1) hardware ID spoofing, and (2) that it limits repeat-sales of a game and/or its in-game purchases. People who can afford to cheat can likely afford to (and will) spend money on the game--if not once, several times.

The upside of this is the corollary: cheaters tend to lose lots of money. See /r/vac_porn as an example.
This is my new favorite sub. Thank you.
I'd pay cash to watch a meltdown that good.
 
Nov 1, 2017
402
Didn't realise hardware ID banning was even a thing. Needs to be much more widespread! Zero tolerance in my opinion for cheaters. You wanna ruin the game for other people? Get fucked. Cheaters on PC is why i do all my multiplayer gaming on console but now that crossplay is becoming a thing i've been concerned about that spilling over into my games.
 
Oct 27, 2017
521
I mean on one hand I don’t feel bad for them, on the other I am giddy with the urge to mock them. If only there was a way to combine these two hands to create some form of noise that would allow me to express myself.
 
Oct 25, 2017
2,548
Do these people ever talk about why they cheat in video games in the first place? Is it just a competitive thing, or is it just trolling?
Their enjoyment stems from making others miserable/angry and they relish over having an advantage playing competitively while getting away with it.

I imagine these cunts exhibit a whole plethora of undesirable traits in their daily lives.
 
Oct 27, 2017
2,753
If someone get's banned on Easy Anti-Cheat, are they still able to play other games with EAC or are they banned for every game that uses it, like with VAC?
 
Oct 25, 2017
9,691
Do these people ever talk about why they cheat in video games in the first place? Is it just a competitive thing, or is it just trolling?
It's effectively the same mentality you have for a single player game when you change the difficulty to easy or enable a bunch of cheats, but it's in a multiplayer environment. They don't care that the other people are real, they'll do whatever they want as though this instance of the game is only for them.

The weirder question is how they don't understand why they aren't allowed to cheat in a multiplayer game. The logic of "I paid for the game so I don't have to follow your rules" makes no sense.

To steal a quote from the Super Best Friendcast:

"If I hold a fancy dinner, and you pay a ticket, and you come in and stab a guest and shit on the floor, you WILL be asked to leave."
 
Oct 25, 2017
1,843
WTF? This is anti-consumer behavior and shouldn't be tolerated. Gamers should be able to enjoy games the way they want without being persecuted for it.
 
Oct 27, 2017
11,651
WTF? This is anti-consumer behavior and shouldn't be tolerated. Gamers should be able to enjoy games the way they want without being persecuted for it.
Is this a joke? It's free game and gamers mostly definitely shouldn't be able to get away with hacking in a multiplayer game and ruin the experience for everyone else
 
Oct 26, 2017
507
Germany
HWID is a hash based on the cumulative components in your PC. If you change a single component, your HWID changes.

New video card? It’s different.
New ram? Different.
Remove a pci card? Different.


No single piece of hardware actually gets banned, so buying used components from a banned machine carries zero risk of being banned yourself.
Interesting, I didn't know that. So a really rich cheater could just replace any hardware component and continue cheating. At least it will cost them.
 
Nov 4, 2017
2,184
How big of a loser do you have to be cheat in a fucking videogames.
I used to a pretty decent FIFA Seasons player. From FIFA10 to FIFA14 I always reached Division 1.
Was like my favorite hobby but I had to quit one day, because the cheating & cheesing got too bad.
Lag switching, abusing the pause button, playing distracting noises through the headphones.... it was no fun anymore.

Fuck cheaters.
 
Dec 12, 2018
411
UK
If you need to cheat to feel success and feel good about yourself while playing a videogame, and to ruin everybody's else's experience at the same time, you're pretty pathetic. Glad that Respawn are being so harsh on these people.