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Hades, the first EGS exclusive, is coming to Steam on December 10th
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Don't usually buy EA games buuuut depending on the price might bite because Pyre was that amazing and I can't wait to see their take on storytelling through a roguelike structure instead of a linear game.
And shame on everybody who didn't appreciate Pyre.
And shame on everybody who didn't appreciate Pyre.
It's pretty meaty at the moment, I enjoy they'll be two more updates by then so a good amount of content for EA
I think the best way to send a message is for Steam sales to blow Epic's sales out of the water.
If everyone waits for a deep discount, it's not going to send the right message.
Yeah, I've been following it quite close, content is not really an issue.
Eh customers can't win in situations like these. If sales are better than Epic ones devs will take Epic money knowing that they will sell tons of copies whenever they come back to Steam. If sales are bad on Steam devs will again go for Epic money and delay.
Yeah, I'd say it probably justifies taking the money upfront.
It's a really good game, y'all. Unlike some roguelikes, you don't need to grind a bunch before you can win. I won on my 7th run, and I've won multiple in a row since.
It's a very fun and beautiful game. I can't think of much I'd change, other than it being too short (early access).
It's a very fun and beautiful game. I can't think of much I'd change, other than it being too short (early access).
Steam also doesn't put games on sale without prior approval from the publisher/developer. Supergiant shouldn't have been put in that position in the first place. If they want a set price for the game in early access to not devalue it, or to ensure that everybody who buys in gets the same price, they should have that option.
Yup it's a lose-lose situation for consumers who want to make a statement, really.
In the end, just gotta choose what launcher you want to play it on.
The way I see it is if people don't buy the game on Steam, Epic will chalk up the poor sales on its store to the game being unappealing.
If the game sells bad on EGS and well on Steam, then Epic has spaffed that cash up against the wall, because clearly the exclusive wasn't enough to get people using their store.
I'm not gonna give people stick for buying the game. Hades looks great and I hope it sells well on Steam.
I was probably going to get it on EGS anyway, but not while it's in Early Access. I'll wait on the Steam version too until it comes out of EA.
I'll buy this when it's $4.99 or less. See devs, you could of gotten all my money if you didn't go the route you did!
For a lot of the small devs its a deal too good to refuse (as in it could literally be irresponsible for them to turn it down). Surely.
On the other hand they got it made now so I'll support someone else.
There is no right strategy, some could take away the notion that there are no consequences to doing this.
Steam has the advantage of a actually having a proper structure for online commerce. They went to a half baked store run by yahoos, they chose to be in that position.
It didn't affect the developers at all, as Epic ate the costs of all sales, like I mentioned.
I don't mean to start the argument about the perceived value of games again, as it's been discussed to exhaustion at the time of the controversy, but Steam has done basically the same thing in their past Lunar and Summer sales, by offering fixed discounts in the form of credit.
If Epic had done the same thing (offering credit instead of "cutting prices" of all games up to a specific amount), no developer would've complained or tried to bypass the sale by artificially raising prices or, in some cases, removing their games from the store entirely.
I'm curious if there's a clause in their contract with EGS to not discuss sales data in comparison to other storefronts. I'd bet money on it.
To be honest this was a super easy exclusive to wait out the clock on, given that the game wasn't even complete yet anyway.
I think pretty much every store has rules around giving out sales numbers. Also IMO it's pretty much a given everything sells orders of magnitude worse on the Epic store, but the money they put up in front probably covers that and you can still get most of the sales on Steam later anyway, even if there's a bunch of shitposters on your Steam forum.
I think pretty much every store has rules around giving out sales numbers. Also IMO it's pretty much a given everything sells orders of magnitude worse on the Epic store, but the money they put up in front probably covers that and you can still get most of the sales on Steam later anyway, even if there's a bunch of shitposters on your Steam forum.
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I'd argue that the consumer won when this was £7.99 on the Epic Games Store.
I'd argue the consumer barely lost out on anything given the game was incomplete on the Epic store anyway.
So you can get the complete version at the same time without having to deal with the Epic store.
I think it'll probably help that they weren't dicks about the whole thing putting a bunch of effort into trashing consumers and running pr for epic like some companies
that matters to me anyways,it's the difference between me probably buying this at some point and boycotting them forever
that matters to me anyways,it's the difference between me probably buying this at some point and boycotting them forever
What's another completely exclusive to EGS game? I mean, as in it's only on PC and only sold through EGS?
They certainly weren't dicks, but they did engage in the typical EGS gaslighting when the game was originally announced.
I dunno, is it Steam's search engine? I'm finding it's impossible to troubleshoot or do things outside of Steam.
I was gonna say Anno, but that has a UPlay option.
Off the top of my head, I think one of the 5 or 6 F2P co-op games currently in Early Access on EGS is a PC only title, but they all kinda blur together for me now.
Satisfactory
Of the released games, I think that's it? I'm probably missing something. It's another EA game as well.
Will wait till it's 50% off as I'm not paying full price for a year old title. Will be doing exactly the same for all titles like this.
Steam only changed the price at checkout.
They did not list every game as 5 dollars cheaper.
Mayhap that is why developers didn't hastily go out to either remove themselves from a sale or change their prices.
Strange how it starting on a different storefront changes the opinion on early access. No one is clamoring for games coming out of EA on Steam to be discounted on release.
I'm honestly curious as to how 'well' things will go for Hades, here.
Between Pyre not lighting the world on fire, and traditionally, 'second-place' releases/ports not doing nearly as well (not to mention negative thoughts/mentality around going to EGS in the first place)....
While I'm sure the Epic cash kept the lights on, it doesn't seem to have done the dev a whole lot of good, otherwise.
It could have a grand renaissance...but those seem pretty rare, nowadays.
Between Pyre not lighting the world on fire, and traditionally, 'second-place' releases/ports not doing nearly as well (not to mention negative thoughts/mentality around going to EGS in the first place)....
While I'm sure the Epic cash kept the lights on, it doesn't seem to have done the dev a whole lot of good, otherwise.
It could have a grand renaissance...but those seem pretty rare, nowadays.
your going to see that all the time for any egs exclusive game since they decided to take the deal so there is no incentive to get it until there's a discount plus early access games get discounted all the time.
Because now it'll be available through more sites, that offer the best discounts.
With Epic that's not a thing.
Not sure how that works but okay. So any game that finds a publisher that helps fund the game's development should automatically be held off of until it goes on discount because they got money ahead of time?
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