Yeah, TCM 4 ends with some alien illuminati dude being behind the Sawyer family murdering teenagers.
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Halloween (2018) First trailer (actually looks good)
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He's bald in this movie, the person ramming their head into the door has longer hair...it's not him.
I mean unless he already has the mask on but the screencap I saw didn't appear to have the mask in it.
Oh right but that's just creepo religious rich dude not aliens lol.
I am just trying to figure out who it could be and how that scene plays out.
If Michael comes in and drops the teeth but doesn't harass the woman, she's sure as hell not sitting in that stall when it's safe to leave and if the documentary guy or the mechanic come in busting the door down, I can't see her staying in the stall afterwards either. Basically, I can't see her staying in the stall after any of those events happen so I am inclined to think Michael drops the teeth and the breaks the door down unless I am missing something really basic.
EDIT - maybe Michael kills the mechanic in the bathroom, drags the body out and drops the teeth in the stall?
Is he bald? I thought it looked like he had hair during the asylum scene.
I wonder if she somehow aides in the breakout because she knows this is her last chance to get him as he's being taken somewhere else...
A couple of the leaks I read about said he was bald....just going off of that.
do we know how involved? from what I can recall reading all I know is that he read the script and signed off on it. I wonder if he suggested changes and had some level of creative input or whether he just decided signing off on the script was worth the paycheck so he could go smoke weed, play video games and jam out some synth rock with his son.
I wish he'd direct another movie. I like The Ward much more than most people but I still don't love it as a final film.
It's a weird shitty movie. But I can't help but watch it whenever it comes on TV.
Michael Myers is banging the mechanic's head on the door.
Yeah, never was a fan of H20. It reeked of that era of horror, and to be frank, I HATED that era. The most I was able to stand was the first Scream, which was a fine movie, but all the others, throughout the late 90s and into a good chunk of the 00s... I REALLY hated that sorta shit. That "scene" of horror was proto to what we have now with various young CW-esque stars in various teeny-bopper horror flicks (Truth or Dare, one of the more recent examples). Gag me with a spoon...
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Yeah, thought about it and figured such. That was a weird cut of that scene so I wonder how it will play out in its entirety.
I'm almost certain that's the male documentarian whose head is being slammed into the bathroom, it would make sense given his partner is the one in the stall.
Dude has a beard and all that.
Dude has a beard and all that.
I'm a huge Halloween fan. Huge. Halloween 1 and 3 all day every day. We watch them regularly in my house. The whole family enjoys them.
Apologies for not reading the whole thread yet, I was in a meeting all day and couldn't watch this until just now.
I'm very interested. We're all going on release day no questions asked, but the teeth and headbutt thing doesn't seem like something Micheal would do. I can't quite put my finger on why it doesn't feel right, but it doesn't to me.
Anyone else feel similar?
Apologies for not reading the whole thread yet, I was in a meeting all day and couldn't watch this until just now.
I'm very interested. We're all going on release day no questions asked, but the teeth and headbutt thing doesn't seem like something Micheal would do. I can't quite put my finger on why it doesn't feel right, but it doesn't to me.
Anyone else feel similar?
Yeah, good catch. Must be the mechanic.I'm almost certain that's the male documentarian whose head is being slammed into the bathroom, it would make sense given his partner is the one in the stall.
Dude has a beard and all that.
It's been talked about but I don't think it's out of character. He's a bit sardonic in the original, so I don't think the teeth thing is out of character. He's not headbutting the door, he's using the other guy as a battering ram.
Yeah, just caught up with that it isn't Mike headbutting doors in! What a relief! I actually sent a screenshot of that post to my daughter lol.
In a way......this movie, three kids are shown wearing same costumes that appeared in 3.
Woah, I didn't notice at all. Nice easter egg then, I give them props.
You know, most of the films retcon at least *something* from the previous film. H2 retcons the ending of 1 (Loomis freaks out vs not being surprised) and adds the sister thing. 3 tries to reboot the franchise into an anthology one. 4 retcons both the end of 2 and the shift to an anthology. 5 retcons the end of 4 and the Myer's house. 6 retcons Michael into the tool of a cult and retcons the Doctor from his childhood asylum into a cult member. 7 retcons 4, 5 and 6 out of existence. 8 retcons the end of 7 and puts the Myers house back to how it was originally. Zombie remade the whole thing. I forget if his Halloween sequel retconned anything cause I only cared to watch it the one time.
So yeah, this maybe the most any one film has retconned (though you've got to argue that 7 comes close), but some of those retcons are restoring the original ideas from the first.
Fun to think about.
So yeah, this maybe the most any one film has retconned (though you've got to argue that 7 comes close), but some of those retcons are restoring the original ideas from the first.
Fun to think about.
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Looking forward to this and liked the trailer but I'm not sure I quite buy that this retconned Laurie would be obsessed with killing this Michael that only went after her once and isn't her brother.
I buy PTSD and being afraid of him but it seems as if she is preparing for him to come after her again, even after 40 years. Makes sense in H20 but here..idk I'd have to see how it plays out.
I buy PTSD and being afraid of him but it seems as if she is preparing for him to come after her again, even after 40 years. Makes sense in H20 but here..idk I'd have to see how it plays out.
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The Halloween timelines are my fav
We got:
1-2-4-5-6
1-2-7-8
3
9-10
and now:
1-11
Even The Boogeyman couldn't escape male pattern baldness.
Or does he? DUN DUN!
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Saying 5, 6 and 8 retconned anything in their immediate predecessor(s) is a stretch. The plot points introduced in them are dealt with, even if unsatisfactorily.
Also, 4 doesn't really retcon 2. Loomis and Michael both have burn marks for a reason. In the script, the film began by showing the blast pushing Loomis away from the explosion.
He murdered her best friends, terrorized and almost murdered her, and caused her untold psychological trauma. You really don't need the brother-sister hook to find her motivations believable. He royally fucked up her life, and she wants revenge.
Yes I mentioned buying ptsd but I'm not sure I buy that she is actually preparing for him to specifically come after her again. The brother hook and events of H2 was what sold why she would think he would come after her again 20 years later in H20.
I'll have to see how the movie plays it when you eliminate those hooks and leaves her only as a victim of a single attack.
Did you catch the kid with the boombox as well? Another nice nod....
Maybe it got lost in the shuffle but like I linked up there, that's wrong. The director himself confirmed that he's still just possibly supernatural, as he was in the first film. Look a few posts up.
Anyway a great interview with Christopher Nelson here.
That's exactly what I wanted to hear.
I really wish we lived in some alternate time line where the original vision for the Halloween series came to fruition. Michael is an interesting character...for about 2 movies, max. Wish they would have stayed the course after Season of the Witch.
This looks alright though. Better than the Rob Zombie reboot.
This looks alright though. Better than the Rob Zombie reboot.
I wasn't sure for a while but that looked pretty solid. Felt very reminiscent of the original in a lot of ways though I can't quite put my finger on why exactly. Jamie Lee Curtis looking bad ass and a little crazy was also great to see. I have to wonder what the timeline is now as it looks like none of the sequels "happened" in this movie.
Halloween 2 absolutely shows Michael and Loomis perish. Halloween 4 retcons it into both surviving.
Halloween 5 absolutely retcons the events of the end of Halloween 4, adding in Michael injecting Jamie with something that causes her to have the episode we see at the end of 4, again, something not intended at the end of 4 where the intended idea is that Jamie has gone full Michael.
Halloween 6 absolutely retcons Michael to be acting as a pawn of a strange cult, something never before intended.
Halloween 8 absolutely retcons the end of H20 by changing the events so that Laurie decapitates a paramedic, absolutely not the intention of the original ending of H20.
They're all pretty much text book retcons.
She isn't planning for that. She's planning to kill him when / if he escapes and comes back to Haddonfield. She's going to be looking for him.
I think you could make the same argument for tons of cliffhanger endings. The point of cliffhangers is to make people go, "How the fuck is the story gonna continue now?" or "How the fuck are the characters gonna get out of that situation?" Cliffhangers are written all the time without a full view of what exactly is going to happen, but with the intention that something will happen to move the story forward. I've never seen people talk about retcons when the solution presented does not create a plot hole. I understand it fits your definition, but it's a very loose definition that ignores the reality of writing stories with multiple installments or seasons.
So, especially in the case of Resurrection, what you're calling a retcon was actually already planned when writing the ending to H20. Bob Weinstein wanted Michael to die and Moustapha Akkad did not. Kevin Williamson came up with the twist used in Resurrection so that both parties could agree on the ending.
The only real retcons in this franchise are 7 ignoring 4-6 and this movie ignoring everything but the original. They're asking you to forget things that were true. 4, 5, 6 and 8 aren't asking you to do that.
He supposedly supervised on the script but who knows to what extent he actually cares compared to other sequels. At the very least, he's engaged enough to be scoring the movie himself.