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Halo Infinite 4k/60 Gameplay Demo
- Thread starter cartoon_soldier
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Amidst all the dunking I think this is a fair point. People want to be wowed visually but also are clamoring for 60fps. Can't always have it both ways.
You gotta stop believing everything you hear these platform holders say. People will be playing this game on Xbox One.
I'm 99% sure this was the Xbox One X version in 4K.
The pop-in when closing the map I've been referring to in the last pages is bad even for a current gen console:
3:13 in the video:
The pop-in when closing the map I've been referring to in the last pages is bad even for a current gen console:
3:13 in the video:
Pretty sure he said "Harbringer", which, assuming they aren't referring to Mass Effect, is most likely Cortana or whatever comes out of the wrap up of the H5 storyline.
Credit to MS for committing to 60fps. But even with 60fps, you would have thought that this would have looked better.
People said they didn't like the art style being so busy, but felt the graphics were good. That is overwhelmingly what we saw.
But you look at the rocks even in official screenshots, they look really low quality, with bad quality textures. That official screenshot with the brute? That is ROUGH. Look at his arm. How the texture is blurry and poorly fades into the other. Look at how flat the lighting is, how some of the characters don't seem to fully have shadows. Look how flat and boring a lot of the places are. Just flat, boring floors that look like forge maps. Look at the AR that has like, no texture detail. Having a simple art style doesn't mean you don't have to get low quality assets. The official screenshots don't make the AR look like a real thing. It looks really low quality.
Yeah I don't like the artstyle, but the graphics have serious problems too. Loads of pop in. Weird animations like with the dropship flying weird. The textures being so low res, like seriously are you looking at some of these rocks?
All of the lighting looks flat and off. It doesn't even look like cartoony. It looks out of place and flat.
Art style is obviously part of this, but there are many instances where the graphics quality looks REALLY bad. Again, look at a lot of the low texture quality and lighting issues and lack of shadows. That is bad. Halo 5 didn't have those problems.
But most importantly, I thought the engine trailer looked fine!! Why does this look so much worse than that? Textures had detail. Far off rocks looked really good. There was actually grass that didn't look poorly lit. Nothing from this looks as good as that trailer. You're telling me they couldn't even achieve that on xbox series x?
That brute's face just completely captures my feeling on this reveal.
lmao. xD
The thing that gets me is how much more vibrant this looks. Even if you want to brush off the textures/models in this reveal, why does it look so much more hazy and muted now?
Crank up the saturation, fam.
Looks like first person Halo Wars....
How/why would they do this after showing us that beautiful review teaser? Just read the last page and it seems to be getting ripped to shreds, i'm just truly shocked and a little sad. I need to go through the rest of the thread now
How/why would they do this after showing us that beautiful review teaser? Just read the last page and it seems to be getting ripped to shreds, i'm just truly shocked and a little sad. I need to go through the rest of the thread now
Some of the art decisions are not my preference here, it gives the game a lower detailed look. A good example is how opaque the alpha effects are, and lacking detail as well.
Check out this difference between the shields on the elite. The Halo Infinite shield effect is completely opaque; it also looks like it has no small detail reads in the shield effect itself.
Here is the shield effect in Reach on the Elite. It has a varied level of opacity based upon damage type and has this tiling detail all across the shield effect. It also sticks to the outside edge of the model on full frontal views, so you can still see quite a lot. It has a lot of negative space. It just looks... more detailed.
Check out this difference between the shields on the elite. The Halo Infinite shield effect is completely opaque; it also looks like it has no small detail reads in the shield effect itself.
Here is the shield effect in Reach on the Elite. It has a varied level of opacity based upon damage type and has this tiling detail all across the shield effect. It also sticks to the outside edge of the model on full frontal views, so you can still see quite a lot. It has a lot of negative space. It just looks... more detailed.
You do realize this is the comparison of a multiplayer map and an open-world-ish space, yes?
This doesn't even remotely approach Ghost of Tsushima. I cannot believe this was a showcase title.
I think it looks better, personally. No joke. I've played a lot of Destiny and nothing in the environments is anything to write home about. There's a reason Bungie use Guardians against a skybox backdrop in most of their promotional screenshots. The worldspaces have never been that impressive with respect to textures, decals, decorators, density, physics, etc.
It allows super fast loading but you're still limited by the amount of RAM you have for how far you can push dense objects.
How could this not be ready? They've had years leading up to this.
Gears 5 and Doom Eternal look much than this, and both are 4k60 on One X. I doubt that each area in Infinite will be substantially larger than the open world levels in Gears 5.
I think I am done with Halo. Never thought the day would come. 343i are just not the right developers for the franchise. I hope we get an actual reboot of the franchise sometime in the future with Bungie taking over. They didn't even show off the multiplayer which is concerning. But I am done being disappointed as fuck by 343. Never again.
I don't accept that 4K 60 fps on hardware this powerful should stop games from also being far more visually rich and detailed at the same time. Stop setting the bar so low and having such low standards.
Dunno if you've noticed, but no one's been banging on about the unparalleled visuals we will get from series x more than the xbox team. They didn't do a good job in showcasing their most high profile game, so yeah, people are questioning the graphics.
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Some of the art decisions are not my preference here, it gives the game a lower detailed look. A good example is how opaque the alpha effects are, and lacking detail as well.
Check out this difference between the shields on the elite. The Halo Infinite shield effect is completely opaque; it also looks like it has no small detail reads in the shield effect itself.
Here is the shield effect in Reach on the Elite. It has a varied level of opacity based upon damage type and has this tiling detail all across the shield effect. It also sticks to the outside edge of the model on full frontal views, so you can still see quite a lot. It has a lot of negative space. It just looks... more detailed.
can't wait for Digital Foundry's analysis video.
I haven't played Gears but it's true it looks way better (probably a smaller game in scope though). And as I said, I don't think 343 are masters in tech/graphics anyway. Coalition, Turn 10 et Playground are.
Can someone put him though FaceApp for a nice big smile?That brute's face just completely captures my feeling on this reveal.
The bottom one is literally 4x the number of pixels...
Guys, this is 4K/60 Halo with the biggest levels ever. And it's still 60fps. Why are we still arguing graphics. It's clear they're prioritizing great feeling gameplay over visual flair...
I'm not a major Halo fan. I enjoyed the games. I never found them particularly visually stunning. Gameplay was king.
That said, I'll sadly admit that, yeah, it looks decidedly not next-gen. Even compared to what we have currently, it seems lagging already.
Oh well.
That said, I'll sadly admit that, yeah, it looks decidedly not next-gen. Even compared to what we have currently, it seems lagging already.
Oh well.
They're not pushing the generational leap angle like PS5 (at least not yet). They're setting up an Apple compatibility model.
I must be remembering wrong then. Went to search and only saw a confirmation of it running on PS5 without problem.
Last of Us 2 will run on PS5 "without issue", says PlayStation CEO
Jim Ryan confirmed the game will run on next-gen in an interview about upcoming PS5 event
If this has a boost in FPS or Resolution is still to be seen. My bad.
its like when i put overwatch into Low, so i can up the FPS lol and see the enemy more clearly.
That brute's face just completely captures my feeling on this reveal.
Ok, this got me good 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I expected it to at least approach the current generation's best visuals, but it's worse that that.
The entire foliage system looks like it needs work as well.
I'm no Halo fan (I think I tried ODST a long time ago) and this looks great.
I also love grapple hooks ! :P
I also love grapple hooks ! :P
Yeah the side by side comparison makes it worse though at least Infinite seems to have open levels. 4 looked great but level design was way too constrictive.
Ok I laughed audibly at this. Looks like that old "there's no need to be upset" memescreen grab from the demo
Cross posting from the other thread. Dang.
The idea that ray tracing is coming as a patch doesn't really inspire confidence that the game is releasing fully cooked.