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Halo |OT| She's Gone, Sir

Oct 25, 2017
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It's essentially a more contextual only when you want to use it version of that with some visual queus
That sounds pretty dope. I'll take one of those with a side of no radar.

II do like the how Spartan chatter automatically relays info that teamates should tell you, but often don't. If I see an enemy with a sword, it tells my team that I see an enemy with a sword.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Halo should copy the ping system from Apex, helps with the lack of mics in MP
id be surprised if this isnt picked up by many games moving forward. its great

Radar would have to go fully for it to work, but I'm in favor of that. Probably remove pinging enimies but have an alert that you see them
in a sense halo 5 already does this stuff and perhaps you're right and this is a better fit for halo. i wouldnt mind at least the option of having my in game spartan call enemy locations and other call outs on the fly
 
Oct 26, 2017
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The ping system is amazing. The sheer number of things you can convey is nuts. Need ammo or a scope? Pin your inventory. See armor you already have? Ping it for a teammate. Hell, if a teammate pings an item you need you can call dibs. All this on top of location and enemy callouts. It's a game changer.
 

jem

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'd have no issue with enemy pinging provided all it does is show a marker where the "pinger" is aiming, not actually highlight the enemy.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I just think it's a good way to remove the radar while giving more feedback than the radar ever did + allowing amazing team communication without microphones
 
Oct 28, 2017
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Literally just posted about the Apex ping system in that OT. Spoiler: it's fucking aces.

That ping system to bring our 3rd random guy into the tactics is so on point. This shit has to become the default standard in FPS, brilliantly implemented. From pointing our enemies spotted, to naming gear for pickups and defending areas or more. Lovely addition. It works so well I found us two in party chat even using it while talking about other things or game elements. I can't believe for probably 10 years I've been posting about a context sensitive system like this. I've seen Halo put a rudimentary system in place but this voiceover, teamwork and diversity of this ping system by Respawn is god tier. Fucking well done ladies and gents at the studio.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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With all the praises this system is getting, I'd be surprised if it didn't become an FPS standard. It really did just combine the best of what other games have already been doing, but into the ultimate package.
 
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Oct 25, 2017
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I can see ping working to a degree in Halo, like with marking power weapons that have fallen or marking enemy locations. Could be a simple button press on the upper d-pad.
Yup it just makes perfect sense in okay with pinging your location for alerts so have a ping where you are standing that only indicates you see enimies but your Spartan can shout which direction from you.

Adds communication without mics
 
Oct 28, 2017
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Halo 5 had a similar thing in campaign mode e.g. defend here, pick this up, attack there. It used the d-pad directions. Extending that contextually to MP for both PvE and PvP modes would be a great addition. It needs to be intelligent and automated as Respawn have implemented. Voiceover work saying the weapon type as well as the waypoint for example. It gives that instant access to make a decision I'll ignore or I'll head for it right now. As for party chat and the evolution of mics this is a very solid progression to getting teamwork back in Halo.

Sea of Thieves has a similar "non-verbal communication system" for its multiplayer and it works really well in matchmaking or parties too e.g. fire the cannons, raise the sails, drop the anchor. Respawn's execution and ping anything in the world abilities deliver simplicity and automation that are indeed game changing for FPS.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Going on this whole ping system, one thing that would also be dope, having the option to react to your medals or others. Like if someone saves me and gets a medal from it, I want to be able to thank them.

Also the system 100% gets rid of the language barrier
 

jem

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Oct 25, 2017
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Also the system 100% gets rid of the language barrier
This is one of the best parts honestly.

In one of the my first Apex games I matched with a French guy who chatting away with me having no idea what he was in about. However, using the ping system we coordinated really well and managed to win the game.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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This is one of the best parts honestly.

In one of the my first Apex games I matched with a French guy who chatting away with me having no idea what he was in about. However, using the ping system we coordinated really well and managed to win the game.
Had a similar experience, me and my friend even added the guy to our friends list lol
 
Oct 28, 2017
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I only realised you can reply to pings from your teammates last night. Super effective.

Also let us face it, players who are eating love this system. I can neither confirm or deny having a mouth full of food in our pparty last night and using just that.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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More feedback without needing to focus on 5% screen estate in the bottom corner for a radar is a great plus.
Yup, also I keep on wining with randoms without talking in this, it's amazing hahaha


I've won more times in this BR than PUBG or Fortnite and I 100% attribute that to the ping system. Bring ping to Halo!
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Yup, also I keep on wining with randoms without talking in this, it's amazing hahaha


I've won more times in this BR than PUBG or Fortnite and I 100% attribute that to the ping system. Bring ping to Halo!
I think Ping is dope. but im also cynical and think this could be twisted by 343 into needing ADS for pings
 
Oct 25, 2017
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More feedback without needing to focus on 5% screen estate in the bottom corner for a radar is a great plus.
Yes. See Halo 5 did pretty good with the audio design to the point where I feel like I could play without much of the HUD at all. Now If I could get rid of the radar, ADS,
sprint
add Ping, and i'd be in screen real estate heaven.
 
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Oct 25, 2017
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Yes. See Halo 5 did pretty good with the audio design to the point where I feel like I could play without much of the HUD at all. Now If I could get rid of the radar, and ADS add Ping, and i'd be in screen real estate heaven.
Yeah Halo 5 is almost there,and 343 has the system kinda working in SP, just bring it fully over the MP with the contexual voices and there we go!
 
Oct 28, 2017
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Yes. See Halo 5 did pretty good with the audio design to the point where I feel like I could play without much of the HUD at all. Now If I could get rid of the radar, ADS,
sprint
add Ping, and i'd be in screen real estate heaven.
I'd also like less weapon bulk taking up the screen real estate.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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It seems like that may have been the intention initially, but plans changed along the way.
As a lore guy one of the more interesting things from the Vice history of Halo was that it helped explain just why Bungie was so contradictory on that point—Halo 3 really didn't have a strong leadership in its direction.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Playing the MCC from the beginning.

So are the forerunners basically humans from a long time ago, or something else?
No but there were ancient humans living at the same time as Forerunners. I think that was explained (in the games) in some terminal cutscenes they could only clunkily integrate into Halo 4. I don't even know if they work in MCC, I assume so, but it's been a while.
 

Anton

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Oct 25, 2017
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FOV in Halo has always been way too low, most PC shooters have always used around 90 degrees horizontal whilst the Halo titles stick around the 70s which really isn't good enough on a widescreen display
 

DemonCarnotaur

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Oct 25, 2017
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Look at this beauty



Look at this monstrosity



Again beauty



Hideous




And of course the obsession with this blue color, so frustrating.

I reallllly hope Halo Infinity's art reflects that of the original trilogy + HD remasters more.

It's not just the art style, but the diversity of the assets. Halo 4/5 have a TON of very plain mix and match looking assets, particularly with UNSC structures. It all looked nice in concept art, but didn't translate to the screen.

Halo should copy the ping system from Apex, helps with the lack of mics in MP
I wouldn't like it showing up on the screen, I think too many clear callouts would change the flow, but perhaps a small temporary ping on the radar with a audio callout could be really cool.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I reallllly hope Halo Infinity's art reflects that of the original trilogy + HD remasters more.

It's not just the art style, but the diversity of the assets. Halo 4/5 have a TON of very plain mix and match looking assets, particularly with UNSC structures. It all looked nice in concept art, but didn't translate to the screen.



I wouldn't like it showing up on the screen, I think too many clear callouts would change the flow, but perhaps a small temporary ping on the radar with a audio callout could be really cool.
The trailer is promising and I really hope they deliver this time. Am cautiously hyped and optimistic. With 343 you never know.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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FOV in Halo has always been way too low, most PC shooters have always used around 90 degrees horizontal whilst the Halo titles stick around the 70s which really isn't good enough on a widescreen display
Agreed... But CE played in splitscreen has a godly FOV.

H3 feeling slow is 100 % FoV related
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Arent some of them like 40-50 FOV ?

Maybe if they brought them all to the same as 5 there would feel like a bit more cohesion. Wasn't there just a post about FOV on here? or was that reddit? Either way it was informative
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Halo 2's FoV in the side-by-side 2-player split is somewhere around 44. Halo 3's 4:3 FoV is about 55.

Halo 2, Reach, and I believe Halo 4 are all low-60s for the 4:3 view.

Other than that, everything is 70 and above.
Old but good
http://forums.bungie.org/halo/archive38.pl?read=1138638

Halo 3 has always felt so slow, would be nice in particular for that get bumped

I feel like Halo 5 is pretty close to 90 based on what the motion tracker looks like with that vision cone
 
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