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Halo Reach’s Enormous Player Plunge Reveals an Unsettling Fact
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I know what I want. Halo 2: Anniversary
I'd say in terms of nostalgia, Reach is probably the weakest next to 4. The titles up to 3 is what the people really want.
I'd say in terms of nostalgia, Reach is probably the weakest next to 4. The titles up to 3 is what the people really want.
I had never played Reach before, got MCC on PC Gamepass, realized I wasn't into it and went back to waiting for Halos 1-3 and ODST to come out
So I do know what I want, and I know it's not Reach
So I do know what I want, and I know it's not Reach
People likely wanted to return to a classic they used to play and enjoy. I think today it just didn't Reach their new standards.
I'm wondering if the terrible progression system had anything to do with this. Theater/forge isn't there, and people are also confused on how custom map importing works (at least that's what I've been hearing from the people I've played with).
343i isn't the best at communicating and doesn't relay information in concise chunks really. The ranking system is lackluster, and the community features are just bad (searching for friends is awkward, and the in-game chat is pretty barebones).
If 343i wants people to stick, they need to fix this stuff ASAP.
343i isn't the best at communicating and doesn't relay information in concise chunks really. The ranking system is lackluster, and the community features are just bad (searching for friends is awkward, and the in-game chat is pretty barebones).
If 343i wants people to stick, they need to fix this stuff ASAP.
Imagine playing a shitty port of an unimpressive bland console shooter when you have dozens and dozens good ones available to you. I tried it and it was just bad, not aged well, sounds terrible, hitting enemies doesn't feel like anything, weapon system restrictions blow etc. No thanks.
most people play reach for the single player, not the .multiplayer so this isnt really surprising to me.
it's definitely not a shitty port.
halo reach has the best campaign but the worst multiplayer of the series. I fully expect numbers to climb once other games are available.
Jesus Christ that site you linked has some of the dumbest articles i've read on the internet. It's like reading a 4chan post.
Halo MMC will have a spike in interest when a new game gets added, then it will die down, then another game will be added, etc.
10% isn't a horribly atypical number for a merely moderately multiplayer decade-old port, but I'm sure it's a fine sole data point for deriving the id of all humans who play games
edit: okay I went snarky before I clicked through but that website is literally 1000% exclusively moron-authored clickbait
like, ads on a comment section you won't believe clickbait
except an actual website composed legitimately, seriously, solely of those ads
it's even formatted like them
edit: okay I went snarky before I clicked through but that website is literally 1000% exclusively moron-authored clickbait
like, ads on a comment section you won't believe clickbait
except an actual website composed legitimately, seriously, solely of those ads
it's even formatted like them
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I'll wager that even when 2 and 3 is released it'll have a similar effect of nostalgia but then nose dive again. The reason? As much as we all say we want to play older games especially iconic classics, we still won't keep playing it for an extended period of time when there are newer games out. Look at MW2 for example.
I completely forgot that I didn't like Reach MP that much until about the 20 hour mark. Most of my friends wouldn't even play Reach with me, and were waiting for CE/2/3 to drop.
Halo Reach was clear as day not designed for KB/M.
Starting with a BR in every single match that has pin point accuracy without even zooming in means everyone is just shooting at the other spawn from their own the whole match. Terrible stalemates. Impossible stealth. Horrible engagements. And then BTB is just a cluster because it's like they turned the "slider" for vehicles to max. Nothing like 12 vehicles respawning over and over on Blood Gulch V7.
Also - Reach was always the weakest MP of the Bungie games.
Give me Halo CE and Halo 2 and I'll be a happy camper!
Starting with a BR in every single match that has pin point accuracy without even zooming in means everyone is just shooting at the other spawn from their own the whole match. Terrible stalemates. Impossible stealth. Horrible engagements. And then BTB is just a cluster because it's like they turned the "slider" for vehicles to max. Nothing like 12 vehicles respawning over and over on Blood Gulch V7.
Also - Reach was always the weakest MP of the Bungie games.
Give me Halo CE and Halo 2 and I'll be a happy camper!
BTW, the site itself is actually trash. I don't know why you linked it.
That's unavoidable? Maybe a lot of people really wanted a different Halo game, and this was just a stepping stone toward it. Or maybe people were more enthusiastic about the campaign than the matchmaking. Or maybe Reach's multiplayer really is what they wanted, and they got it, and left after they had their fill, so that they could play another game that they also want.
That's three alternative possibilities. There may be others. The article's conclusion is a bit rushed.
A not-great 'battle pass' unlock-style system that required tons of grinding, halo reach's arguably, but generally agreed upon weaker multiplayer/maps and sandbox, and the various bugs/glitches and what have you on PC probably soured people from sticking with the game, rather than Halo as a whole.
I'm curious to see what would have happened were this 2 or 3 launching first - but IMO even if the latter 2 titles cause a bit of a comeback, the tide's kinda passing them up.
Anniversary isn't gonna be out for several more months (presumably), and by the time 2 is out, we'll be in next-gen - and then you either cannabalize Infinite, and/or people don't care.
(Granted, most probably bought all of the titles already in the MCC, but the point stands)
I'm curious to see what would have happened were this 2 or 3 launching first - but IMO even if the latter 2 titles cause a bit of a comeback, the tide's kinda passing them up.
Anniversary isn't gonna be out for several more months (presumably), and by the time 2 is out, we'll be in next-gen - and then you either cannabalize Infinite, and/or people don't care.
(Granted, most probably bought all of the titles already in the MCC, but the point stands)
I mean all this was obvious before Halo Reach on PC right, were the people who just hit this epiphany just born? Or did they expect a port of a 10 year old game to suddenly light the world on fire like never before? What game has 100% of their buyers still playing it months later if not days later.
People wanted their game, got it, and moved on.
People wanted their game, got it, and moved on.
Yup. Frankly, I don't think the games _really_ hold up to modern stuff, and I say that as someone that spent hundreds of hours playing Halo1-3. Halo was amazing for its time, but has been surpassed in nearly every aspect. It was THE shooter to play on console and pioneered Xbox Live multiplayer, but today, you can pick from half a dozen CoDs, 3 different battle royales, a couple different looter-shooters and the occasional hero/class-based shooter sprinkled in for good measure. When Reach came out on PC, I literally played it for 2 days and then went back to Destiny 2 + COD MW.
I dont like Reach MP. I want Halo CE mostly
But Ill also admit that Halo as a franchise is just not something Im interested in
But Ill also admit that Halo as a franchise is just not something Im interested in
I played at launch, had fun, moved to something else. Will comeback when I feel like playing again / a new game is added into MCC. I imagine most people are like this.
Well duh Reach is the worst.
We were surely all excited just to boot up a Halo on our computers but as soon as our shots bloomed we thought "yeah, wake me when 2 and 3 are added".
We were surely all excited just to boot up a Halo on our computers but as soon as our shots bloomed we thought "yeah, wake me when 2 and 3 are added".
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