Halo: The Master Chief Collection announced for PC (Steam/Microsoft Store) - Staggered release, Reach first

JWNSY

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Oct 29, 2017
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Cant wait to play Reach with a proper resolution and framerate. Ready to play some absurd custom games again.
I'm glad they are bringing over the full suite of modes so hopefull that ODST Firefight will also come at some point..
I wonder what the graphics options will be like.. Per game options?
 

Dr. Caroll

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You know, I'm really not that keen on the Blur cutscenes that Halo 2 Anniversary uses. A huge amount of the dialogue timing is off with pauses between lines often being removed for some reason, and some excellent editing -- such as the transitions -- are lost, and subtle emoting is lost. The new cutscenes are flashier, but they're not as... artistically cohesive as the originals. Not to mention how jarring the switch back and forth between ingame graphics and prerendered cutscenes is.

Of course you can switch back to classic graphics mode to watch the original ingame cutscenes. But it's a shame you couldn't get the updated graphics AND ingame cutscenes.
 

Woorloog

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You know, I'm really not that keen on the Blur cutscenes that Halo 2 Anniversary uses. A huge amount of the dialogue timing is off with pauses between lines often being removed for some reason, and some excellent editing -- such as the transitions -- are lost, and subtle emoting is lost. The new cutscenes are flashier, but they're not as... artistically cohesive as the originals. Not to mention how jarring the switch back and forth between ingame graphics and prerendered cutscenes is.

Of course you can switch back to classic graphics mode to watch the original ingame cutscenes. But it's a shame you couldn't get the updated graphics AND ingame cutscenes.
Very true.
Blur does excellent CGI but figure it is more fitting for Halo Wars or the like than a shooter with rather good graphics as it is.

Weirdly, they were either gonna do the cutscenes in-engine originally, or there's something glitchy going on, because it is possible to get (some?) cutscenes in new graphics but they aren't complete.
See here for an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzzrXrskM7k

EDIT We aren't entirely alone with this opinion, seen it expressed previously and elsewhere.
 

Woorloog

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Wait, have they confirmed they're including Halo Reach's Forge mode?
Forge in MCC is available for Halo 3 and 4, why wouldn't it be for Reach? Especially since bunch of Reach's "stock" maps were made on it.

The only thing's missing from MCC so far is ODST Firefight, and i think theater mode as well?
 

SmartWaffles

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Nov 15, 2017
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Man, why do i keep thinking something didn't have it (Halo 1 and 2 obviously don't, even in their anniversary versions)...
Guess it is down to fact i have never really cared for the mode. Must've ignored its inclusion in MCC.
Halo 2 Anniversary does have theater for multiplayer, alongside 3, 4, and Reach in MCC.
 

ara

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Oct 26, 2017
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So what's this about Reach possibly not having extensive Spartan customization? Unlocking and mixing and matching different armor parts and stuff was one of my favorite things about Reach.
 

Buddha0991

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So what's this about Reach possibly not having extensive Spartan customization? Unlocking and mixing and matching different armor parts and stuff was one of my favorite things about Reach.
none of the master chief collection games has the armor customization they had in the originals, just pick from whole sets like this

 

Woorloog

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Halo 2 Anniversary does have theater for multiplayer, alongside 3, 4, and Reach in MCC.
Didn't count Halo 2A MP due to its kind of separate nature.
So what's this about Reach possibly not having extensive Spartan customization? Unlocking and mixing and matching different armor parts and stuff was one of my favorite things about Reach.
MCC Doesn't offer full customization for Halo 3 or 4 as it is, so people are worried the same will apply to Reach.
 

Woorloog

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Oof, that's boring. Do you play as the same Spartan in all multiplayer modes or what's the reason for this? Really hope this won't apply to Reach too.
Halo 3 and 4 (and Halo 2 A MP) have all separate armor and color selections. Halo CE and 2 only allow for color selection.
As for the reason why this is as it is, most likely the unified UI and rushed production.

I'd hope that if they make Reach have complete original-like armor selection, they'd update the others to do that as well.
 

ara

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Halo 3 and 4 (and Halo 2 A MP) have all separate armor and color selections. Halo CE and 2 only allow for color selection.
As for the reason why this is as it is, most likely the unified UI and rushed production.

I'd hope that if they make Reach have complete original-like armor selection, they'd update the others to do that as well.
Gotcha, thanks for the explanation. They seem to be doing everything else right with this, so I'll just keep my fingers crossed, I guess.

e: watching this video I happened to randomly come across on Youtube

and I'm reminded how much I liked the leveling and customization systems and all the challenges and commendations and shit you can do in the game so now I'm crossing my fingers super hard and hoping they won't screw this aspect of the game up
 
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Dakkon

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Oct 27, 2017
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Is this a Play Anywhere title or will we need to purchase it again on PC?
While they haven't confirmed officially, it's probably going to be the same as Killer Instinct:

* If you buy/use on the Microsoft Store, it's Play Anywhere.

* The Steam version is not Play Anywhere.

Altho the Steam version for this lists an X-Box Live login required, so maybe the Steam version will support Play Anywhere this time around?
 

Zonal Hertz

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Is this a Play Anywhere title or will we need to purchase it again on PC?
Unconfirmed but I would be shocked if it isn't play anywhere in the MS store considering every other first party game is of late. Unless they try and justify how much work they put into it makes it a separate release almost...that will just make me feel less guilty when I buy on steam.

Altho the Steam version for this lists an X-Box Live login required, so maybe the Steam version will support Play Anywhere this time around?
This is very interesting. Is there a chance they make the client of MCC F2P on steam. Then when you open it with your XBL acc it authenticates if you own the games or not already? If not you would need to purchase them (transaction through steam). Sounds like something I'm not sure Valve would allow.
 
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Halo is making its comeback. I think it's clear that this groundwork is being laid to bring it back to the forefront of people's minds before megatoning Infinite at E3 and as a launch title for the Nextbox.
 

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Woorloog

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For some reason I'd remember Halo Anniversary MP having different tuning, despite running in the Reach engine. Not sure if that's the case
It wasn't the maps directly but Anniversary MP had classic playlists that used modified settings and modified pistol. But if you booted up the map with standard Reach gametype, it didn't have anything special going on.
 

SmartWaffles

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While they haven't confirmed officially, it's probably going to be the same as Killer Instinct:

* If you buy/use on the Microsoft Store, it's Play Anywhere.

* The Steam version is not Play Anywhere.

Altho the Steam version for this lists an X-Box Live login required, so maybe the Steam version will support Play Anywhere this time around?
The Steam version likely will not. The XBL login is probably for crossplay and/or save sync.
 

emphyrian

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May 17, 2018
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Is this worth getting for some LAN gaming? I've never really played Halo but I recall my friends having a great time bringing their X-box's round each others houses for some multiplayer action.
I ask because a few buddies and I have decided to get back into LAN gaming this year but so far have only decided on Red Alert 2 and our old favourite MOH: Allied Assault.
 

jelly

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Pity people won't be able to experience the goat Reach UI.

I guess that's why old game armour customisation isn't there in MCC. Maybe one day if they can separate it out in a deep UI option.
 

Akai

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Is this worth getting for some LAN gaming? I've never really played Halo but I recall my friends having a great time bringing their X-box's round each others houses for some multiplayer action.
I ask because a few buddies and I have decided to get back into LAN gaming this year but so far have only decided on Red Alert 2 and our old favourite MOH: Allied Assault.
MCC is the perfect game for LAN's, because you get access to 5 Halo MP modes (soon 6 with Halo: Reach). They have also added a LAN option with the big patch that revamped the entire MCC, so it should be even easier now:

 

SmartWaffles

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Is this worth getting for some LAN gaming? I've never really played Halo but I recall my friends having a great time bringing their X-box's round each others houses for some multiplayer action.
I ask because a few buddies and I have decided to get back into LAN gaming this year but so far have only decided on Red Alert 2 and our old favourite MOH: Allied Assault.
Halo is an absolutely fantastic game for LAN parties.