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European Parliament 2019 Elections |OT| Electing the Unelected and Unelectable Since 1979

Who are you voting for?

  • European People's Party

    Votes: 21 2.9%

  • Progressive Alliance of Socialists and Democrats

    Votes: 95 13.0%

  • European Conservatives and Reformers

    Votes: 20 2.7%

  • Alliance of Liberals and Democrats for Europe

    Votes: 109 14.9%

  • European United Left - Nordic Green Left

    Votes: 72 9.8%

  • Greens - European Free Alliance

    Votes: 331 45.2%

  • Other

    Votes: 84 11.5%
  • Total voters
    732
Uzzy

Uzzy

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When: Thursday 23rd May to Sunday 26th May 2019
What: Potentially 400 million voters across Europe (including the UK!), taking part in EU wide elections to decide who sits in the 751 member strong European Parliament, the legislature of the EU and the only directly elected EU institution.
How: Each individual member state has their own rules for voting, you can find out more information here.

Who: National parties in each individual member state co-operate across Europe to form political groups within the European Parliament, and each can nominate a Spitzenkandidat, or leading candidate, for the role of President of the European Commission, which is currently held by Jean-Claude Juncker. He announced that he's not standing for re-election, meaning that one of the top positions in the European Union will change hands.

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European People's Party (EPP)
Ideology: Centre Right/Christian Democratic
Notable National Parties: CDU/CSU (Germany), Les Républicains (France), CD&V (Belgium), Forza Italia (Italy), People's Party (Spain), Fidesz (Hungary) (Suspended)
Spitzenkandidat: Manfred Weber
Current Seats: 217

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Progressive Alliance of Socialists and Democrats (S&D)
Ideology: Centre Left/Social Democracy
Notable National Parties: SPD (Germany), PS (France), Labour (UK), Democratic Party (Italy), PSOE (Spain), PSD (Romania)
Spitzenkandidat: Frans Timmermans
Current Seats: 187

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European Conservatives and Reformers (ECR)
Ideology: Right/Eurosceptic
Notable National Parties: Conservatives (UK), Law and Justice (Poland)
Spitzenkandidat: Jan Zahradil
Current Seats: 76

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Alliance of Liberals and Democrats for Europe (ALDE)
Ideology: Liberal/Centrist/European Federalism
Notable National Parties: VLD (Belgium), VVD (Netherlands), D66 (Netherlands), Liberal Democrats (UK), FDP (Germany), to be joined by Macron's En Marche/Renaissance (France)
Spitzenkandidat: Guy Verhofstadt
Current Seats: 68

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European United Left - Nordic Green Left (GUE/NGL)
Ideology: Democratic Socialism/Communist
Notable National Parties: Die Linke (Germany), Syriza (Greece), Sinn Fein (Republic of Ireland/UK), Podemos (Spain)
Spitzenkandidates: Violeta Tomič, Nico Cué
Current Seats: 52

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Greens - European Free Alliance (Greens/EFA)
Ideology: Green/Regionalism
Notable National Parties: The Greens (Germany), Green Party (Sweden), Green Party of England and Wales (UK), Scottish National Party (UK), Green Left (Netherlands)
Spitzenkandidates: Ska Keller, Bas Eickhout
Current Seats: 52

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Europe of Freedom and Direct Democracy (EFDD) (Plans on disbanding after this election)
Ideology: Euroscepticism/Direct Democracy/Brexit Means Brexit
Notable National Parties: Five Star Movement (Italy), Brexit Party (UK)
Leader: Nigel Farage
Current Seats: 41

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Europe of Nations and Freedom (ENF)
Ideology: Far Right Nationalism
Notable National Parties: FN (France), Northern League (Italy), UKIP (UK)
Leader: Nicolas Bay
Current Seats: 37

Why:
The European Parliament is the only legislative body in the world whose decisions have direct legal effect in multiple sovereign nations, on everything from trade, migration, regulations, climate change and the economy. More fundamentally though, it's about what sort of Europe you want to see (or want to get out of!)

Useful Links:

Micael said:
https://www.howtovote.eu/ <- shows how and when to vote in each country and from where the person voting is.
https://www.factcheckeu.info/ <- fact checking website
https://www.votewatch.eu/ <- website to check how a specific MEP voted in certain issues
https://yourvotematters.eu/ <- website where one can fill a questionare and see the MEP that are more likely to vote in a similar way
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As always, let me know what I fucked up below, and I'll change it as soon as I can. Or if you've some suggestions for things to add, let me know too.
 
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Xando

Xando

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Oct 28, 2017
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Thanks for making a thread Uzzy.

Already voted greens via postal 3 weeks ago. Don't really trust any other party in germany.
 
Calderc

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If you are in the UK, please go and vote. Don't waste this opportunity.

(Unless you're voting Brexit Party/UKIP, in which case stay your ass at home).
 
eonden

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Oct 25, 2017
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Already voted here in Sweden last weekend (they open early voting 2 weeks before the elections).
I also sent my vote for local and regional election back home in Spain. Always gotta vote!
 

Ravensmash

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Hello Europe!

Nice to see this thread up, especially as a voter from the UK who didn't really expect to be able to vote in these elections.

I will be voting either Lib Dem or Green (most likely the latter) to try and stem the flow of Brexit Party votes that my region will undoubtedly cast.
 

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In the UK and still deciding whether I should vote for the Green Party or the Lib Dems. My heart says the Green Party, my head says Lib Dems for tactical reasons.
 
Micael

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People talking about postal voting makes me jealous, had to stand 40 minutes just to cast my vote this past weekend here in Portugal, because for some reason we don't have postal voting, in fact up until this election we couldn't even vote outside of the zone where we are registered as living at, hurray for countries with low turnout making it actively harder for people to vote.

BTW preferential voting should be mandatory in all countries voting for the EU elections, I mean obviously it should be mandatory in all democracies, but yeah the idea you can waste a vote is completely unnecessary when it is such an easy fix.

Anyway voted LIVRE, more precisely for Rui Tavares (ex green MEP), since realistically they are at the absolute best only getting 1 MEP elected, not a huge fan of their association with DiEM25, but he was the MEP candidate that I aligned more with.

Got to say it wasn't hard to decide, it helped that there were really only 3 other left wing parties I could vote for (PS, BE, CDU), PS has a bunch of problems even if I do tend to agree with their politics.
CDU MEPs voted against the hungary situation and I don't do leftists that are ok with dictatorships, so straight up fuck those guys.
BE is already guaranteed to get Marisa Matias as an MEP, and since she is the MEP that is closer to my positions in that party it just seemed superfluous to vote for them instead of Rui Tavares.

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Can't wait to elect an unelected!
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I hear the EU isn't a democracy so I am afraid you are out of luck.
 
supremeplatypus

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Deciding between Greens or Lib Dems (UK voter here). Economically I align more with the Greens who are leftist than the Lib Dems who are economically right leaning but both are pretty liberal socially. It's about "who is going to win more seats" for me.
 
Fiocca

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supremeplatypus said:
Deciding between Greens or Lib Dems (UK voter here). Economically I align more with the Greens who are leftist than the Lib Dems who are economically right leaning but both are pretty liberal socially. It's about "who is going to win more seats" for me.
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Check out @remainvoter. It's a site that's collated polls and gives you the best option for tactical voting in your area. Mine is actually green but I'm going to stick with the libs I think.
 

XSystem

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Cool to see an OT on this. I'll likely vote Green as well, but still want to do a little more research before making my final decision on Sunday here in Germany.
 
FliX

FliX

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Micael said:
People talking about postal voting makes me jealous, had to stand 40 minutes just to cast my vote this past weekend here in Portugal, because for some reason we don't have postal voting, in fact up until this election we couldn't even vote outside of the zone where we are registered as living at, hurray for countries with low turnout making it actively harder for people to vote.

BTW preferential voting should be mandatory in all countries voting for the EU elections, I mean obviously it should be mandatory in all democracies, but yeah the idea you can waste a vote is completely unnecessary when it is such an easy fix.

Anyway voted LIVRE, more precisely for Rui Tavares (ex green MEP), since realistically they are at the absolute best only getting 1 MEP elected, not a huge fan of their association with DiEM25, but he was the MEP candidate that I aligned more with.

Got to say it wasn't hard to decide, it helped that there were really only 3 other left wing parties I could vote for (PS, BE, CDU), PS has a bunch of problems even if I do tend to agree with their politics.
CDU MEPs voted against the hungary situation and I don't do leftists that are ok with dictatorships, so straight up fuck those guys.
BE is already guaranteed to get Marisa Matias as an MEP, and since she is the MEP that is closer to my positions in that party it just seemed superfluous to vote for them instead of Rui Tavares.



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Doesn't Portugal have proportional representation? Because in a mixed memeber proportional system like for example Germany I see little point in preferential voting.
 
DBT85

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Father in law will be proxy voting for wife and I as were away and left before postal votes were available.

#TeamYellow
 
Ac30

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Beefy said:
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Source: https://ig.ft.com/european-parliament-election-polls/

Surprisingly the UK isn't the worst....
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Actually if that new ENF total includes Lega and RN I'd be surprised and pleased, but if Farage joins them they might have more seats than ALDE, Christ.

M5S are clowns but they won't burn everything down quite like Lega would.

Also early turnout seems to be up over 2014 so that... means something is happening. Hope it's not more far-righters to the polls :/ Also satirist parties like Die PARTEI (which is left-wing) and the new Pirate parties will gain seats as well and they're not aligned with any blocks, yet.

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bad pro-EU parties > all anti-EU parties
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Yeah I'm not going to celebrate if PiS and Fidesz gain seats no matter how much they love the EU for the money we funnel them.

Edit: New projections from EuropeElects

https://europeelects.eu/2019/05/21/a-right-wing-surge-a-glimpse-into-the-new-eu-parliament/

EPP/S&D/ALDE/ENAP (Salvini & Friends)/Greens/GUE/ECR/M5S's new thing that will flop

173/152/109/82 (Not including Farage!)/54/51/59/25
 
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Teddy

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Will be voting either Greens or Lib Dem's tomorrow, not sure which.

Hope Brexit Party does worse than polled but I doubt it.
 
Ac30

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Don't know if any Slovakians post on here but I'm legit scared that L'SNS might become the biggest party from Slovakia (they're, quite literally, Nazis).
 
Stop It

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On behalf of the UK, sorry about Farage.

Honestly there are more people who think he's an epic set of expletives than otherwise but there's enough of the expletive supporting expletives to get him back into your parliament.

No idea how long you'll have to out up with him either. I'll be voting Green probably so long as there's a decent chance of returning an MEP in the East of England region.

It's either that or LD. Sorry Labour but I'm not voting for equivocation.

Ah the remain voting site says to go for Green to add another seat if people vote tactically. Please do do fellow East of England people.
 
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Magni

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Went through the different parties and lists last night, looks like I'll be voting EM/Renaissance, in part to block Le Pen from getting the biggest block from France. I liked some things from Greens and the two main center-left lists, but not enough to get me to vote for them (also not a fan of some of their protectionist talk). Hope FI crashes and burns so that Mélenchon disappears, but that's not gonna happen.
 
MrLuchador

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Good work, Uzzy! An election that will affect almost an entire continent. I don't think there's anything bigger in politics than this one, especially with the seemingly growing interest in fascism across Europe.
 
Elynn

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Fucking embarassing how France is projected to make up almost half of that ENF number. I don't even know who I'll be voting for on sunday, don't wanna vote for En Marche.
 
Micael

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FliXFantatier said:
Doesn't Portugal have proportional representation? Because in a mixed memeber proportional system like for example Germany I see little point in preferential voting.
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It isn't a massive issue here due to the current political situation, but for example I voted for a party that last time only got 2.2% of votes, which wasn't enough to get a seat, and there is a very good chance they aren't getting a seat now, and in the event that they don't get a seat I would like my vote to go to a different specific party, and like me there were almost 9% of the voters that did the same and saw no MEP elected to the party they chose.

If the situation in Portugal wasn't so left leaning to the point I don't mind potentially wasting my vote, I would have probably not voted for them, and instead voted for a different party that is also close to my views but will get more votes, this makes it harder for very small underfunded parties to get in IMO.

Now obviously this isn't anywhere near an issue like the system the UK currently has where there is a massive divergence between the amount of people that vote for a given party, and how those votes get distributed, but given these are EU elections feel like there should be a single voting system for all countries, in this case STV.
 
MrLuchador

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Micael said:
Now obviously this isn't anywhere near an issue like the system the UK currently has where there is a massive divergence between the amount of people that vote for a given party, and how those votes get distributed, but given these are EU elections feel like there should be a single voting system for all countries, in this case STV.
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I had no idea it was different across countries.
 
Ac30

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Magni said:
Went through the different parties and lists last night, looks like I'll be voting EM/Renaissance, in part to block Le Pen from getting the biggest block from France. I liked some things from Greens and the two main center-left lists, but not enough to get me to vote for them (also not a fan of some of their protectionist talk). Hope FI crashes and burns so that Mélenchon disappears, but that's not gonna happen.
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Pity PS might not even make the threshold...
 

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Magni said:
Went through the different parties and lists last night, looks like I'll be voting EM/Renaissance, in part to block Le Pen from getting the biggest block from France. I liked some things from Greens and the two main center-left lists, but not enough to get me to vote for them (also not a fan of some of their protectionist talk). Hope FI crashes and burns so that Mélenchon disappears, but that's not gonna happen.
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I considered it too but LREM makes it really fucking hard to vote for them. They and Macron make blunder upon blunder.

I hesitate between abstaining and voting Pirate Party. Leaning 75% for the latter.
 
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