Has anyone else just given up on CNN and MSNBC?

signal

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Oct 28, 2017
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I think 'The Hill''s youtube channel is a pretty good emulation of a cable news style broadcast, just more progressive.
 

Zabo

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Oct 30, 2017
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Never really consumed news from either outlet (mainly because I don't live in US) but I used to like Maddow. But she has become tad too "theatrical" for my liking and not much substance in the show's reporting. Only American pundit I like is Sam Seder and with very little resources he does better job dissecting news events then CNN/MSNBC.
 

Boiled Goose

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Nov 2, 2017
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Just now? Lol

They've been garbage for over a decade.

CNN isn't news and msnbc is centrist propaganda that fires anyone who doesn't stick with pro corporate pro wealthy talking points
 

Hecht

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Oct 24, 2017
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Heyes was trying to get the soundbite of Warren admitting that her healthcare plan will raise tax while ignoring the fact that the overall cost will be lower. The whole thing sounds like they’re trying to get clips to be used to attack her plan later.
Huh. I’m actually surprised, since when I’ve listened they all seem to be fawning over Warren and just kinda “meh” on Biden
 

Inuhanyou

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Oct 25, 2017
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I havent watched them for years and im glad i havent. Only reason i cant get away from them is that youtube is basically has some kind of deal with the TV stations that their clips are the only ones that pop up first when it comes to anything politics related
 

Biske

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Nov 11, 2017
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Any commercial news is unbearable. I stick to public radio cause I dont waste my time with commercial ads and bullshit.

You donate to your local stations and programs you like and you get an hour of content where most of it is actually content and not dick waving ads.

Even aside from that my news is primarily gathered from an array or reporters and correspondents on twitter and their various pieces, rather than relying on some corporate asshole to read me the highlights of those same reporters stories.
 

Gunblade47

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Oct 25, 2017
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I prefer watching democracy now on youtube if I want to watch US news. I don't have the time nor interest to watch the big networks. It feels like in their attempts to give both sides of the story they tend to normalize what's really happening.
 

Brinbe

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Oct 25, 2017
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in the age of twitter and easily accessible instantaneous worldwide communication and information? they're irrelevant

pbs/npr are more than enough and mostly on the level.

i think people shouldn't be inherently distrustful of media, just more aware and discerning of who is delivering news (as well as why) and aware of their possible bias'
 

Hours Left

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Oct 26, 2017
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There are a few MSNBC shows that are still worthwhile. Sadly they’re almost all sandwiched by garbage.

CNN is a pure dumpster fire. Absolutely worthless Jerry Springer-esque trash.
 

Nothing Loud

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Oct 25, 2017
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It’s funny that we implemented freedom of the press to have quality news reporting yet most of the profitable US news outlets are GARBAGE
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Shit like a decade ago lol.

NPR is by far the best. Vox ain’t bad (especially their YouTube). Smattering of conventional sources like wapo and guardian is fine so long as you’re smart about them.

Also shit like Last Week Tonight are legit journalism no matter what they claim out self deprecation.
 

Pandora012

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Oct 25, 2017
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Pretty much besides some special reports they may do. I do however still watch nbc's nightly news. But PBS is where i will watch daily.

Tho, this is not because i despise the likes of cnn or msnbc. It's actually more because i don't have cable to watch. And well pbs does a great job already. So it's pretty unnecessary to watch more.
 

nausicaa

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Sep 7, 2018
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I don’t trust any news sources nowadays. probably 80% of the time if I see a story that shocks me, if I research it myself it’s because the article told a half-truth or omitted contextual info. literally everywhere does this. even places that strive for balance (e.g. the BBC) fuck up frequently enough that I don’t take things at face value

end result is most news articles take so much effort to look into that I can’t be bothered. the news just ends up being depressing anyway.
 

sublimit

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Oct 25, 2017
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the corporate media are trash

been watching Democracy Now! with Amy Goodman more often

also reading articles on The Atlantic, Common Dreams, American Prospect, Jacobin, Z Magazine, truthdig, The Intercept, ProPublica, Daily Climate
 

Trickster

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Oct 25, 2017
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I stopped watching a while ago, partly because I was sick to death of being stuck thinking about Trump all day, and partly because MSNBC and CNN are shit.

MSNBC is stuck in hyper partisan "shit on Trump all day with being as smug about it as humanly possible". Eventually I grew tired of the "today something happened to Trump that's never happened to him before, and it has him RATTLED"-routine

CNN meanwhile feels like a morally bankrupt place, where they will try and put on a pretense that they're a proper journalistic news outlet, but then the next thing you know, they're having "both sides" types debates. Where they will put on smart and qualified people to talk about the issue at hand, but then they'll also let absolute scum on the same show to provide a "different opinion", or some such nonsense. It's a joke.
 

KennyL

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Oct 27, 2017
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I watch PBS News Hour, Al Jazeera English, and JTBC for Korean news, all on youtube. Looking for good Taiwan news channel but they're all garbage.
 

Shadybiz

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Oct 27, 2017
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I'll read articles on CNN's website, but I don't really watch cable news at all. The only news I really watch on TV is snippets of Action News and Good Morning America in the morning, while my wife and I are getting ready for work.
 

LCGeek

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Oct 28, 2017
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I’ve hated cnn since the last decade with their handling of 911 or going to bat for banks and wall street.

Msnbc got themselves in the stinker with me with the last election and their constant misframing of issues. Post mueller report I’m convinced it’s just a shitty moderate corporate friendly network that pretends to give a fuck about left issues.
 

Snake Eater

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Oct 27, 2017
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The worst part of it all is that CNN has proven Trump over and over again just how shit it is, I have to get my news from the BBC and other sources
 

Sulik2

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Oct 27, 2017
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For profit 24 hours news channels are a mistake and are going to be one of the things written on the tomb stone of what caused the collapse of the USA.
 

greenbird

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Oct 25, 2017
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I haven't watched cable news regularly since around the 2008 election cycle. From the snippets I always see, it's only become much worse since then.
 

BadAlchemy

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May 2, 2019
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I’m exclusively NPR now I just can’t take the hyperbole and constant audio of Trump being Trump. NPR rarely plays audio of the douchebag in chief and I’m kind of okay with that. NPR and PBS are just recitations of news devoid of opinion for the most part...I don’t know I’m just tired of opinion?

Anyone else in the same boat? I’ll vote for the dem nominee but I’m just so damn demoralized.
I won't even do NPR, even listening to people talk about what's going on is so totally demoralizing. The only news I want to read is whatever today's Nancy strip says.
 

bionic77

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Oct 25, 2017
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I only watch cable news during election night.

It’s the worst kind of garbage.

I pretty much read all of my news online and have done so for a long time.
 

Zelas

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Oct 25, 2017
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I’m exclusively NPR now I just can’t take the hyperbole and constant audio of Trump being Trump. NPR rarely plays audio of the douchebag in chief and I’m kind of okay with that. NPR and PBS are just recitations of news devoid of opinion for the most part...I don’t know I’m just tired of opinion?

Anyone else in the same boat? I’ll vote for the dem nominee but I’m just so damn demoralized.
I wouldnt be as into politics as I am without NPR. I dont bother with MSNBC ever outside of a twitter clip here and there. CNN is fine until they start rehashing content.
 

tommy7154

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Oct 25, 2017
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Yeah I check them out knowing it's biased opinions and propaganda. As long as you know what the "news" is I think it's fine to watch/read it for the entertainment. Just don't try and form your own thoughts from any single source.