- Oct 25, 2017
Yes but I feel it's gaining much of it back again post 5. I'm expecting 6 will be it's first big jump in a long time.
In most cases I'd say you're right, and the same probably goes for Sony too, but then how does one explain Nintendo's constant success with using the same IP over and over? The reinventing of their IP over time? I think Microsoft and Sony both try to chase the same thing, having brand mascotts and deep wells of IP that they can rely on to sell time after time, but neither seem to have found massive success with it.It's a damn near 20 year old IP. There was a very obvious peak period for it and slow decline since.
It happens. Very few brands like that can stay consistently popular. its the major downside of Microsoft's "franchise factory" philosophy they had with Halo, Gears, Forza, Fable and something I hope this new vision for Xbox Game Studios moves away from.
Eventually, no matter how hard you try the audience just moves on and the brand needs to go on the shelf for a while.
Yeah, I feel this is how I see it. Halo releases will almost assuredly have a ton of buzz around them but I don't feel the same fervor around the franchise that existed around 1, 2 and 3. Too many mediocre games and it being moved to a different studio. It absolutely can make a huge comeback, though. Like pswii60 said, God of War was in the same boat.
I'm hesitant to say it lost its popularity. It seems like a similar ampunt of people are still playing halo, but I can definitely see a world where Halo Infinite reaches 20 million players, and creates a huge splash.Absolutely.
It went from the console online multiplayer game, to a merely recognizable IP with a decent install base.
Having said that, I can easily see a future where it recaptures its former glory - especially considering it'll be on both Xbox and PC - on top of its inclusion on Gamepass.
That's an interesting idea -- Call of Duty has gone through several reboots (WWII, Modern, Future, Back to WWII, Future, then back to Modern) and they've changed up systems with every game to keep things "fresh."
Well Halo 4 and 5 were not bad games. They had bad pieces to them and also good pieces. They weren't peak Halo, but they were a hell of a lot better than a lot of games being made out there today. Both reviewed well and found commercial success, just not to the extent of bigget entries in the series. But to suggest that they are bad games or poorly made is ignorant and feels like a hot take.
At a point in time I felt like I was the worlds biggest Halo fan.
Bungie’s games being popular doesn’t correlate with 343 games being popular besides them riding the brand name (into the ground)
Sadly people don’t realize this. It’s the developer, not the IP that matters.
Which is ironically when Halo started to copy COD gameplay mechanics. I don't think Halos decline is just because COD exists as Halo 3 was always number one or two in the most played lists for years after it came out. Halo lost its gameplay roots with Reach and has been on a downward spiral ever since as Halo has tried to adopt "Current" gameplay trends making it feel nothing like Halo.
They both managed, indeed. But that certainly wasn’t a quick win for the respective developers. Nothing shown so far indicates that Infinite will take the same risks to reinvent the IP. It’s - just another Halo. No chance that this gets even close to the massive success of Halo 3.
Yep! It could possibly be what BoTW Zelda was to switch. I mean, Zelda wasn't tanking as fast or harder than Halo, but the most recent release before BOTW - skyward sword - seemed to get a pretty lukewarm response.
Hm, we haven't seen enough to know either way, imo. But yeah, with the others we knew from day 1 that they were something special.They both managed, indeed. But that certainly wasn’t a quick win for the respective developers. Nothing shown so far indicates that Infinite will take the same risks to reinvent the IP. It’s - just another Halo. No chance that this gets even close to the massive success of Halo 3.
Not really, Halo 3 was huge even with CoD4 Modern Warfare in the same season releasing.
Pretty much. You'd have to be living under a rock to assume the franchise was still on top of the world. Microsoft needs to haul ass and get new IPs going if they care about Xbox as a brand imo unless it really just is going to be "the console that you might as well not buy because why not play on all the other systems or windows?"
It was on this list last year and has out sold the first Destiny.