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Has Halo lost some of its popularity?
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Halo has lost a lot of its popularity and I think part of that was due to excess Microsoft started to use it after 3, not to mention the shift to 343 needing to find their own voice.
While i'm sure sales and money data might say otherwise. You look at the launches of Halo 2 and 3 compared to everything after and you notice the loss of it being a "event" when a new Halo came around. Though of course the "diminished" popularity of Halo is still at such a size that other titles would love to be that popular, it's still the first title you think of when you think xbox after all.
I'm hoping infinite changes that for the better. A new fresh spin on the series that gets a lot of people back and offers something only Halo can whether you play SP or MP.
While i'm sure sales and money data might say otherwise. You look at the launches of Halo 2 and 3 compared to everything after and you notice the loss of it being a "event" when a new Halo came around. Though of course the "diminished" popularity of Halo is still at such a size that other titles would love to be that popular, it's still the first title you think of when you think xbox after all.
I'm hoping infinite changes that for the better. A new fresh spin on the series that gets a lot of people back and offers something only Halo can whether you play SP or MP.
It obviously has. I for one used to be a huge Halo fan, I have all the achievements for all the Halos up to 4 and I've played a LOT of MP (LAN parties with my friends were so much fun), it was one my Top 3 favorite franchises and now I simply couldn't care less about Halo. I finished 5 in a afternoon and barely remember it. I think Infinite has a chance to give the franchise a boost but I really don't think It can go back to what it was.
Cod damaged the MP.
The devs have been damaging the campaign*
*I've only played up to 4, so dunno if 5 is worse than 4, which I thought was a little bit average.
The devs have been damaging the campaign*
*I've only played up to 4, so dunno if 5 is worse than 4, which I thought was a little bit average.
Speaking purely for myself, I really enjoyed Halo back in the original Xbox days and I'm one of those lucky people stuck with the helmet from Halo 3. After I played through 3 though, I completely fell off and didn't have any interest in the series again. I tried to get back into it again when the MCC came out for the X1 but the bugs made me drop the game and at that point I was entirely done.
Yeah, it's just another franchise now, albeit one with bigger name recognition. Halo 2 was the multiplayer game for a huge chunk of college. I can't remember the last time I've even heard someone I know mention the franchise.
Not sure how confident I am in 343 making Halo suddenly relevant again. They've cranked out way more hilarious disasters than landmark games during their existence. Nothing screams all star studio like spending a full console gen patching one game.
Inevitable when each new game looks 95% the same to the outside viewer. That does not grow a franchise, it only makes it smaller over time. At this point everybody knows what to expect from Halo so if I haven't tried it till now, why would I?
Halo used to be the gold standard for console FPS. There was very little (if any) competition.
Then Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare was released... Rest is history.
Then Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare was released... Rest is history.
Yes it has and it's due to a messy story line after halo 3 and not being able to play as MC in Halo 5 for more than a just a bit :(
MP has been super ace however.
MP has been super ace however.
I would say lack of competition in the shooter genre on consoles was a huge factor in Halo's uprise in popularity.
I also remember Halo 2 being a huge deal as well because of the Xbox Live multiplayer.
However, it seems like Halo 3 was the peak in the series popularity and then declined from there due to more consumer focus on Call of Duty and other competitive games.
To be honest, I stopped being hyped for Halo games after 3. I did like ODST and Reach a lot, but I didn't care much for 4 and 5 as I thought I would.
Although I am very excited for Halo Infinite since it looks to be a soft reboot in the same style as God of War.
I also remember Halo 2 being a huge deal as well because of the Xbox Live multiplayer.
However, it seems like Halo 3 was the peak in the series popularity and then declined from there due to more consumer focus on Call of Duty and other competitive games.
To be honest, I stopped being hyped for Halo games after 3. I did like ODST and Reach a lot, but I didn't care much for 4 and 5 as I thought I would.
Although I am very excited for Halo Infinite since it looks to be a soft reboot in the same style as God of War.
That's bound to happen when the Halo franchise hasn't been good since arguably 2010.
And unlike Call of Duty, where if you disliked the new game you would only have to wait another year to see the what next game is, Halo fans had to wait an average of 3 years.
And unlike Call of Duty, where if you disliked the new game you would only have to wait another year to see the what next game is, Halo fans had to wait an average of 3 years.
COD ate its lunch in an industry that was dominated by FPS clones..it also hurt that 4 and 5 were clearly a departure from Bungie's efforts and it rubbed fans the wrong way.
Do i think they can gain back that insane momentum they had at the launch of 3? No.
Do i think they can gain back that insane momentum they had at the launch of 3? No.
Single platform game series that's been around nearly 20 years in a market that has become more and more crowded.
I'd say it's doing great given all that.
I'd say it's doing great given all that.
Well Halo is older. But yeah, Gears of War isn't doing so well after Gears of War 3.
Exactly how I feel too. I'm very excited for Infinite got a good feeling about it.
Yeah man hoping for the best in Infinite. So far the trailer gave me the vibes of older halos. Just hope they keep the story telling more simple and focus on chief.
The Bad news: Halo will never be as big as Halo 3. 343i made a lot of mistakes in each of their releases, Halo MCC ( Matchmaking), Halo 4 ( MP) and Halo 5(SP), so technically they haven't made a great(ccomplete) game yet.
Good News: 343i never had the time and MS milked Halo and 343i suffered from it. Now they have time and that is exactly what the franchise needed. Halo Infinite will be a big comeback for Halo in general simply because talented devs if given time will deliver a great game.
Halo MCC by 2020 will be the gold standard of how to make a collection.
Good News: 343i never had the time and MS milked Halo and 343i suffered from it. Now they have time and that is exactly what the franchise needed. Halo Infinite will be a big comeback for Halo in general simply because talented devs if given time will deliver a great game.
Halo MCC by 2020 will be the gold standard of how to make a collection.
They gotten back into the mlg scene with 5, I think that's the biggest win 343 has had with halo. The hype train is all here, everyone's best games at E3 has halos cinematic trailer at the top of the lists, and MCC, decade old games is one of the most hyped PC releases of this year. I'm not saying halos as popular as halo 3 and reach was but it's setting up all the right things to have a comeback. A halo tv show, halo esports scene (they literally CREATED MLG gaming on console), and super broad reach (no punt intended) with gamepass on Xbox and pc. Forza 4 is at 10 million players, imagine what halo could do with that many ways to introduce players into playing halo in different ways. The barrier for entry is at its lowest and 343 seems to be hitting all the right notes, halos on comeback and I can't see how you'd see it any other way.
Halo 2 was such a huge event, i remember the adverts, The midnight sale of it, Me and friends talking about it all day then all queing up, Felt monumental at the time. MP was so much fun.
I personally haven't felt the hype for Halo since the release of Halo 3. After that I just do not get worked up over new Halo games anymore. I always play them but honestly they could completely stop making Halo games and I wouldn't care.
Probably gets review bombed by someone named AngryGamerReallyAngrySayingSwears on YouTube with 74 billion subscribers
I wonder whether Halo's brand of arena shooting is still viable. Halo 5 has a great 4v4 offering but it didn't exactly light up the XBL charts. Warzone was probably more popular and certainly more profitable.
That said, even if the MP flags a bit, Halo's campaign is still a huge draw, so if 343 manages to shore up that area I think they will reclaim some of the lost enthusiasm for the franchise.
That said, even if the MP flags a bit, Halo's campaign is still a huge draw, so if 343 manages to shore up that area I think they will reclaim some of the lost enthusiasm for the franchise.
Xbox One not being that popular (especially at the beginning of the generation) and Bungie leaving the series along with Halo 4 and 5 having subpar campaigns really hurt it. Bringing MCC + Infinite to Steam will help, but Infinite will need some sort of BR mode to really gain traction assuming BR will still be super popular late 2020. By that time, another FPS sub-type could take over in popularity, but I doubt it unless some other company works their employees to death year-round for weekly updates like Fortnite.
It's been in a little bit of a rut lately. Halo 4 and Halo 5 accelerated the downward trend started around Reach. But people still really love Halo. It's #2 on Steam wishlists right now, right? Halo Infinite will do better than either 4 or 5 for sure, given Console, Steam, xCloud, and Gamepass. People are still really into Halo, just not the latest iterations.
Yeah, 3 and ODST were the last time I was really hyped for a Halo game.
Reach was solid, but I'm not a huge fan of prequels and playing as a mute no-name spartan was a bummer.
And then 4 pretty much killed off all my enthusiasm for the series for quite a while. I didn't even buy it, just rented it from Redbox and beat it in a day. The reliance on the books to fill in the story was really irritating, and the game continuing to use the Covenant as enemies was disappointing (I really wanted something fully new after 3 and Reach) and the new enemies weren't particularly great.
Still haven't played more than the first level of Halo 5. Yet again it seemed to start assuming the player has read some extended universe stuff like who all these new Spartans are, why is Nathan Fillion suddenly a Spartan, why are these people still fighting Covenant and the Robo-dudes (prometheans?).
That kind of "oh shit what's going on?" cold open worked for Halo 1 where it was still building the universe, but 5 games in its not something I'm looking for.
MCC coming to PC is the first time in a long time I've been excited for the franchise, and mainly just to play the games I've already played before.
But Halo Infinity I'm pretty excited for.
Spartan Assault and Spartan Strike were hardly classics, but it's unfair to call them stinkers.
I think if the new game looks really big and scope and epic then people who abandoned the series in the last few years will return. If they can recapture that magic of the original Halo trilogy from Bungie. They need to go big, it needs to be gorgeous, have an epic story, great multiplayer, etc. If they can nail all of this down then I suspect people will come running back.
I've sunk months of my life into Halo CE through Reach. 4, 5, and the terrible mishandling of MCC have left me completely disinterested in Infinite. I plan on checking out the new release of Reach, though.