Hatsune Miku: Project Diva MegaMix (Switch) seemingly let's you use PlayStation and arrow symbols in Arcade Mode

Hero of Legend · Oct 21, 2019

Edit: Here's a video of the PS symbols in action in MegaMix (thanks Echo!):

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A potential megaton for veteran fans. this was spotted by P.Scoop in the other thread, where a user on twitter tweeted an image that was shown at the Magical Mirai event where the game was shown back on Aug 31st:

As far as I'm aware, this may be the first ever usage of the PS symbols in a non-PS Miku console game. I think the symbols were also used in the arcade game (which MegaMix is more or less the newest version of) on the controller. But yeah, this is fucking surreal. I guess we truly have our Vita 2 everyone! :P

Edit: And yeah, the text apparently appropriately translates as "Arcade" for the PS buttons. So yeah.

Musubi · Oct 21, 2019

Aren't those copyrighted by Sony? I mean I know they are just shapes but those SPECIFIC shape together have to have some sort of copyright on them no?

Hero of Legend · Oct 21, 2019

Musubi said:
Aren't those copyrighted by Sony? I mean I know they are just shapes but those SPECIFIC shape together have to have some sort of copyright on them no?

That's what I thought, but my guesses are:

- Sony only have copyright in terms of hardware usage? Basically Nintendo can't make a Switch Lite with those symbols for buttons.
- Sega got permission? If they are used in the arcade version, then that might be a loophole?

I mean considering that PoPoLoCrois got a 3DS (exclusive!) game that even mentioned Sony Computer Entertainment in the copyright, anything's possible.

Rosebud · Oct 21, 2019

As someone who always confuses the letters, I get it.

Deleted member 10629 · Oct 21, 2019

Hero of Legend said:
That's what I thought, but my guesses are:

- Sony only have copyright in terms of hardware usage? Basically Nintendo can't make a Switch Lite with those symbols for buttons.
- Sega got permission? If they are used in the arcade version, then that might be a loophole?

I guess it is not worth the hassle for Sony if they're indeed copyrighted.

Yasumi · Oct 21, 2019

They're listed as "Arcade", which is true, since Future Tone arcade isn't being played on a PS console. Really skirting it though.

Ragnorok64 · Oct 21, 2019

I wonder if the fact they aren't PlayStation colors had any beating on them being able to use them?

Hero of Legend · Oct 21, 2019

Ragnorok64 said:
I wonder if the fact they aren't PlayStation colors had any beating on them being able to use them?

Are they not the exact colors?

Well the Miku ones are much more saturated, but they do seem to be based on the same matching colors.

~~Edit: Actually Cross and Triangle's colors are swapped.~~ Nevermind.

KCsoLucky · Oct 21, 2019

Hero of Legend said:
Are they not the exact colors?

Well the Miku ones are much more saturated, but they do seem to be based on the same matching colors.

Edit: Actually Cross and Triangle's colors are swapped.

I'm not seeing it. Triangle is green and X is blue, just like on the controller.

Hero of Legend · Oct 21, 2019

KCsoLucky said:
I'm not seeing it. Triangle is green and X is blue, just like on the controller.

You may be right.

Edit: Yeah, googling "Playstation symbols" shows those same matching colors for all symbols.

Deleted member 10629 · Oct 21, 2019

In any case, it is great that the icons can be swapped, it is quite jarring watching the ABXY ones.

Hero of Legend said:
Edit: Actually Cross and Triangle's colors are swapped.

I still see Blue Cross and Green Triangle.

Hero of Legend · Oct 21, 2019

NarohDethan said:
In any case, it is great that the icons can be swapped, it is quite jarring watching the ABXY ones.

I still see Blue Cross and Green Triangle.

Yeah I corrected myself after googling Playstation symbols. They're shown more vividly.

Edit: Here too, click each symbol:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_controller

AFI-kun · Oct 21, 2019

THANK YOU. The PlayStation buttons are just much easier for me to recognize reflexively and pretty much makes this a must buy for me (I absolutely adored the Project Diva games on the Vita, RIP you sweet little machine with the absolute best dpad).

N.Domixis · Oct 21, 2019

I'll allow this one.

Ragnorok64 · Oct 21, 2019

Hero of Legend said:
Are they not the exact colors?

Well the Miku ones are much more saturated, but they do seem to be based on the same matching colors.

Edit: Actually Cross and Triangle's colors are swapped.

Dang I should have double-checked a controller before posting.

Deleted member 32106 · Oct 21, 2019

Arcade machine pic.

Hybrid Rainbow · Oct 21, 2019

Sega had to get permission. There's no way they can put the PS symbols in a non-PS game and expect it to be ok. With that being said, I was totally going to turn the arrows on just like Indod in Project Mirai DX, but getting the actual buttons for this? Hell yeah. So for clarification sake, this is basically a port of Future Tone for Switch right?

baggage · Oct 21, 2019

Hybrid Rainbow said:
Sega had to get permission. There's no way they can put the PS symbols in a non-PS game and expect it to be ok. With that being said, I was totally going to turn the arrows on just like Indod in Project Mirai DX, but getting the actual buttons for this? Hell yeah. So for clarification sake, this is basically a port of Future Tone for Switch right?

it's built off future tone but it has less songs, a new mode, a cel shaded artstyle, and various other changes

Yasumi · Oct 21, 2019

Hybrid Rainbow said:
Sega had to get permission. There's no way they can put the PS symbols in a non-PS game and expect it to be ok. With that being said, I was totally going to turn the arrows on just like Indod in Project Mirai DX, but getting the actual buttons for this? Hell yeah. So for clarification sake, this is basically a port of Future Tone for Switch right?

Pretty much PS4 Future Tone minus 130 songs, plus 10 unique songs.

Hybrid Rainbow · Oct 21, 2019

baggage said:
it's built off future tone but it has less songs, a new mode, a cel shaded artstyle, and various other changes

Sigh. Well, Miku beggars can't be choosers.

Aurica · Oct 21, 2019

Oh, this is great. I actually was concerned when I watched gameplay today, because I don't wanna get thrown off jumping between versions. upandaway

Dr Pears · Oct 21, 2019

"Discover your next favourite symbols"

Hero of Legend · Oct 21, 2019

Decided to write and article because I can. :P

https://goldmetalsonic.wordpress.co...playstation-and-arrow-symbols-in-arcade-mode/

Echo · Oct 21, 2019

They showed the symbols in use here, briefly.

... so not even new.

Rommaz · Oct 21, 2019

I saw a video on youtube where the devs used PS symbols to demo Alien Alien so yeah I thought we knew this. Definitely going for symbols instead of letters

Hero of Legend · Oct 21, 2019

Echo said:
They showed the symbols in use here, briefly.

... so not even new.

I watched that twice just now and I didn't see the PS symbols?

Jawmuncher · Oct 21, 2019

Thank the lord, I never remember the Nintendo Prompts. This will help a lot.

Echo · Oct 21, 2019

Hero of Legend said:
I watched that twice just now and I didn't see the PS symbols?

I may have mistaken it for a different video, like the one mentioned in post #25. Or maybe my brain went dumb mode saw the X, and forgot Switch also has an X lol.

Echo · Oct 21, 2019

Here we are:

Back from September too.

Hero of Legend · Oct 21, 2019

Echo said:
Here we are:

Back from September too.

Ah! Neat, thanks! :D

Jhn · Oct 21, 2019

Project Diva muscle memory still valid, sweet.
Nintendos button placement regularly throws me off in way more chill games so this is great news.

Symphony · Oct 21, 2019

Good news, I'd be reduced to a bumbling beginner that has to keep looking back at the controller if I were made to use A B X Y instead.

Linde · Oct 21, 2019

didnt know this was a thing people wanted
abxy is already ingrained in my mind
but neither that nor the playstation version has a natural mapping anyways
ill probably just go with arrows in the end

SweetVermouth · Oct 21, 2019

I've had this in half a dozen PC games where the icons would automatically change from Xbox to PS when I used my DS4. This is not that special at all, I actually think all multiplat games should have this.

Storm · Oct 21, 2019

Good. I can't deal with Nintendo ABXY

Rommaz · Oct 21, 2019

SweetVermouth said:
I've had this in half a dozen PC games where the icons would automatically change from Xbox to PS when I used my DS4. This is not that special at all, I actually think all multiplat games should have this.

Well the thing is that this is an exclusive game, where the button prompts matter quite a bit lol. That's why some people are kinda excited

Gradon · Oct 21, 2019

SweetVermouth said:
I've had this in half a dozen PC games where the icons would automatically change from Xbox to PS when I used my DS4. This is not that special at all, I actually think all multiplat games should have this.

Well that's because it's a PC game, there are no strict guidelines (if any) to release PC games.

There's very obvious reasons why competitor console button prompts have never appeared on another console version of a game before, at least not intentionally.

I honestly don't know how they've gotten away with this. 🤔

Rommaz · Oct 21, 2019

Gradon said:
Well that's because it's a PC game, there are no strict guidelines (if any) to release PC games.

There's very obvious reasons why competitor console button prompts have never appeared on another console version of a game before, at least not intentionally.

I honestly don't know how they've gotten away with this. 🤔

They're calling them arcade buttons instead of PS buttons. Must be how.

Hoa · Oct 21, 2019

Besides the circle for obvious reasons, the Miku symbols have round edges while the PS controller symbols have sharper edges. They've always used the symbols on the arcade releases though so not sure why people are surprised.

Hero of Legend · Oct 22, 2019

Linde said:
didnt know this was a thing people wanted
abxy is already ingrained in my mind
but neither that nor the playstation version has a natural mapping anyways
ill probably just go with arrows in the end

I remember people saying that they were so familiar with the PS buttons that adjusting to Nintendo's buttons was always a big challenge. This move is sheer genius as it solves that, and provides all the options.

Hybrid Rainbow · Oct 22, 2019

Hero of Legend said:
I remember people saying that they were so familiar with the PS buttons that adjusting to Nintendo's buttons was always a big challenge. This move is sheer genius as it solves that, and provides all the options.

Yeah, I didn't feel like trying to relearn the Nintendo prompts for Project Mirai so I turned on arrows. PS prompts make it easier to play. Will someone be making an OT for the game?

Hero of Legend · Oct 22, 2019

Hybrid Rainbow said:
Yeah, I didn't feel like trying to relearn the Nintendo prompts for Project Mirai so I turned on arrows. PS prompts make it easier to play. Will someone be making an OT for the game?

I suppose I could if no-one else will. :P

Rommaz · Oct 22, 2019

Hybrid Rainbow said:
Yeah, I didn't feel like trying to relearn the Nintendo prompts for Project Mirai so I turned on arrows. PS prompts make it easier to play. Will someone be making an OT for the game?

The question is whether the OT should drop with JP release or whenever the hell the English version comes out...

tsab · Oct 22, 2019

Nice little addition. That will help the Hatsune Miku players not get confused with the Nintendo button layout. I know I am since Parappa The Rapper made me taught me the PSX buttons, I am still looking the nintendo controllers for the button layout while playing

SinCityAssassin · Oct 22, 2019

Shh it's arcade so it's fine.

mute · Oct 22, 2019

Now just need a setting that moves the left stick below the direction buttons.

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