The poll results are really telling aren't they.
Anyway, I'll still be getting Atlus games, but I won't be getting Catherine FB. Then again, I wasn't really interested in getting it again in the first place.
He's directing and producing, like he did for P3, 4, 5 and Catherine.
He's the head of the studio. Safe to assume he will be the main director.
The poll results are kinda like telling folks to boycott Amazon because they're terrible to workers. Cept then people still end up using Amazon and that sweet prime delivery 😩Well that would mean caring about human beings over a videogame and for some gamers that's a pretty hard thing to do.
To be fair, all the 'yes' and 'no, but not Full Body' added together outnumber the 'no. I will continue to purchase Atlus titles.'The poll results are kinda like telling folks to boycott Amazon because they're terrible to workers. Cept then people still end up using Amazon and that sweet prime delivery 😩
There's an easy logical reason why. ERA seems like it would ban the opposing viewpoint (or even a middling viewpoint) in the other thread, so a lot of posters aren't able to comment. But voting allows lurkers who might not be able to express their views.damn the poll results are not what I expected considering the other thread on Catherine.
Eeeeh, Amazon gives services to people who are tight on time and money so there aren't many Amazon alternatives. Atlus is just one game company and there are many other alternatives if you want JRPGs or any good game honestly.The poll results are kinda like telling folks to boycott Amazon because they're terrible to workers. Cept then people still end up using Amazon and that sweet prime delivery 😩
Please fuck offI've never played Catherine before, and that type of game does not interest me at all. But I did skim through the whole linked thread and that stuff does not offend me. I've never boycotted any type of media, and doubt I ever will. I have no personal interest in the Catherine game, but not because of the OP's reasons.
As for Persona, I've played a couple of them. Regarding bullying scenes, that's totally realistic when you're talking about a high-school setting. In fact it would be *extremely weird* to have a video game about high school social life, without any bullying whatsoever and every kid buddy-buddy with each other. That would feel very off and break immersion as far as I'm concerned.
Yall never seen fat kids getting bullied growing up through elementary, middle, high schools? That happens every day in every country on earth.
A man so enthralled by bigotry he is constantly one upping himself deserves every job lost
huh?? I didn't bully any fat kids or any kids growing up, because I was just an average under-the-radar kid who got along with everyone. I wasn't on either end
Some People arent even pretending to think the bigotry is actually bad in their excuses at this point in the thread lolThere is definitely a kind of hypocrisy in the "I'll buy it but I'll still criticize the problematic aspects" because unless it's so widespread that it gets picked up by news organizations, they won't care about criticism. They just care that people will buy their product.
If, after several several examples of homophobia and transphobia, you're still buying their games and they're still not stopping then you're part of the problem.
I loved Persona 4 for the most part but sometimes a line has to be fucking drawn.
ThisThere is definitely a kind of hypocrisy in the "I'll buy it but I'll still criticize the problematic aspects" because unless it's so widespread that it gets picked up by news organizations, they won't care about criticism. They just care that people will buy their product.
If, after several several examples of homophobia and transphobia, you're still buying their games and they're still not stopping then you're part of the problem.
I loved Persona 4 for the most part but sometimes a line has to be fucking drawn.
You are the problem and this is in itself homophobic, you realize that righthuh?? I didn't bully any fat kids or any kids growing up, because I was just an average under-the-radar kid who got along with everyone. I wasn't on either end
I was just pointing out about any video game that's completely set in high school social life -- wouldn't make sense or feel realistic if every character got along with everyone else. That'd be weird in that type of setting?
I've never played Catherine before, and that type of game does not interest me at all. But I did skim through the whole linked thread and that stuff does not offend me. I've never boycotted any type of media, and doubt I ever will. I have no personal interest in the Catherine game, but not because of the OP's reasons.
As for Persona, I've played a couple of them. Regarding bullying scenes, that's totally realistic when you're talking about a high-school setting. In fact it would be *extremely weird* to have a video game about high school social life, without any bullying whatsoever and every kid buddy-buddy with each other. That would feel very off and break immersion as far as I'm concerned.
Yall never seen fat kids getting bullied growing up through elementary, middle, high schools? That happens every day in every country on earth.
Oh boy.gifWell that would mean caring about human beings over a videogame and for some gamers that's a pretty hard thing to do.
I was just pointing out about any video game that's completely set in high school social life -- wouldn't make sense or feel realistic if every character got along with everyone else. That'd be weird in that type of setting?
Please fuck off
Not only does complete apathy at utter transphobia say more than enough about you, but to be so fuckin apathetic to people as a whole that you want homophobic bullying in games is beyond excusable.
You are the problem and this is in itself homophobic, you realize that right
Asking to not be demonized isnt fuckin kiddifying your dumb anime games where teens fight monsters
There is definitely a kind of hypocrisy in the "I'll buy it but I'll still criticize the problematic aspects" because unless it's so widespread that it gets picked up by news organizations, they won't care about criticism. They just care that people will buy their product.
If, after several several examples of homophobia and transphobia, you're still buying their games and they're still not stopping then you're part of the problem.
I loved Persona 4 for the most part but sometimes a line has to be fucking drawn.
In his first post he literally says the utter transphobia in CFB doesnt bother him, so read his post again with that apathy in mindI think the point the person is trying to make is that bullying/teasing is a thing that happens in high school, so it makes sense for it to be in the game in some form.
Yosuke is a homophobic piece of shit. You could deceiver it as being in the closet himself (which was cut), or he's just your typical shitty teenager. I think having characters have negative character traits isn't a bad thing, as long as you point out how that character is in the wrong for thinking that way.
That's where one of the problems with P4 (and P3/P5) comes in. It's supposed to star a MC you can self insert and make decisions as, but at no point can you ridicule or reprimand these characters for their phobic actions. I don't think anyone ever reprimands Yosuke in the game for his treatment of Kanji, except for like maybe once with Chie telling him to "be a little nicer" to Kanji.
What's homophobic, I specifically was referring to the fat kid example with the kid breaking a bike by sitting on it. That's what I said the first post about fat kids being bulliedYou are the problem and this is in itself homophobic, you realize that right
Asking to not be demonized isnt fuckin kiddifying your dumb anime games where teens fight monsters
Been watching the results, its really close. It barely outnumbers it as it stands ultimately, which is the more telling result. It's no landslide.To be fair, all the 'yes' and 'no, but not Full Body' added together outnumber the 'no. I will continue to purchase Atlus titles.'