Wait the developers a lesbian? The fuck?
Like I get hate is stupid in general but you'd think there'd be some empathy there.
The RF in TERF is from Radical Feminist, a movement which had so regressive ideas about gender and sexual orientation that basically asked straight people to be lesbians
Which in part created lots of biphobia
There is a reason why this shit was created in the 60~70's ...and mostly stayed there with it's regressive views
Yeah. This happened before with Alterna Comics. They support a dipshit, so a bunch of bigots started buying a ton of their comics, blindly.Fwiw, the only people buying the game right now are dipshit reactionaries who aren't actually interested in the game, and are just interested in being shitty to trans people. They won't support the developer in the future, who at this point has burned bridges with the actual fanbase the game had.
There was just a pretty in depth article about TERFs on Vox recently that educated me quite a bit about them, as I only knew superficially of their existence.I will say that at the time the groups in question did important work in expanding what we mean by sex (probably the single most important lasting effect that political lesbianism has helped -- not exclusively -- bring to the culture) and getting people to think about gender in a more broad sense. They were not useless movements but the idea that feminist separatism was going to be a lasting strategy was, of course, a foolish notion.
The problem, to use a trite analogy, is they all got onto the gender progress bus and once they got out at their stop they became upset that the bus still had a route to follow. Now they claim the bus hates cis people.
I just don't get it. You can hate a group that much that you mock about their suicide rates.. Like fair enough you can dislike any group you want privately to yourself, but to be this openly blatant in what can only be described as pure hatred, at what point do you stop and think you've maybe gone way way too far?
Urgh. Humans were a mistake. Such a shame we can't exist in some semblance of harmony but have to attack others who are actually doing nothing to you.Because public hatemongering will get them praise as being "based and redpilled" in the community they frequent.
All of this hate and vitriol is a part of their bigger collective worldview that leftists are trying to take over the media and take their risque jokes and anime titties away so they respond to these perceived attacks as violently as possible. And yes, trans people existing are perceived by them as an "attack".
Note that they have no relation to that historical descripion, nor do they say they are 'terfs'.The RF in TERF is from Radical Feminist, a movement which had so regressive ideas about gender and sexual orientation that basically asked straight people to be lesbians
It was posted a bit back, this tweet has the second halfNote that they have no relation to that historical descripion, nor do they say they are 'terfs'.
Also found this, don't know if this has been posted:
Imagine defending transphobia with a line from The Matrix, of all films.Because public hatemongering will get them praise as being "based and redpilled" in the community they frequent.
Yeah it's like when the Ion Fury people flirted with changing their dumb homophobic joke sprite to a They Live reference and then decided to stick with the homophobia.Imagine defending transphobia with a line from The Matrix, of all films.
I just checked this person's game (SLARPG) because of their last tweet in your post. Their pixel art is kind of amazing. Like, awe-inspiring amazing. It looks so cool.
Put it better than I could.
I seriously wonder how many even know it's from the Matrix at this point let alone that the Watchowski's are trans.Imagine defending transphobia with a line from The Matrix, of all films.
Because they see trans woman as men interjecting into the community. Yeah.also the part about trans people "punching down" to LGB people... what?
Note that they have no relation to that historical descripion, nor do they say they are 'terfs'.
I would also like to know the story behind this. WTF do they mean?also the part about trans people "punching down" to LGB people... what?
Looked it up cause those dialogue options looked suspiciously like they're from when you name a character or something and, yup:Sincere apologies for double posting but it seems that the transphobia isn't just in the sale, it's directly in the game too:
I see, false alarm then.Looked it up cause those dialogue options looked suspiciously like they're from when you name a character or something and, yup:
It's because of Steam's off-topic review filtering. If they determine there's a significant number of reviews based on things outside of the game, they don't count any review posted during that time period.
Anyone else having this problem? Whenever I check the reviews, the "recent reviews" are missing, and it just says "all reviews". I swear this game didn't have 200 reviews the last time I checked, it was over 300+ with the recent reviews, especially since it was high on Top Selling, but now it's not. Does it have to do something with the reporting, or?
You realize that pretending the issue isn't there is a lot worse, right?
There was just a pretty in depth article about TERFs on Vox recently that educated me quite a bit about them, as I only knew superficially of their existence.
This sub group of Radical Feminists is so driven by hatred of anything masculine, that they went full circle and partnered with ultra conservative anti Women's Rights movements as long as they were anti Trans. (In a TERF's view, even a Trans Man -ergo born a Woman- is at best hurting their agenda as "brain washed pupets" and at worst active enemies who actually like Men so much they want to become them and oppress Women).
I mean, lobbying alongside people who are anti abortion, anti contraception, and generally regressive on Women and feminism, just because someone who might have been born as a man physically but identifies as a Woman wants to use the Women's bathroom...
Thank you for the summary. Unbelievable. How twisted/evil do you have to be?I reacted to this in the other thread, but this is just inhuman. The dev and her girlfriend at the center of this are lesbians, aren't they? How do they look into the comments section and see their new friends and not realize? Do you really need to hate such a small unjustly maligned community so badly that you'll associate with people who hate you and want to destroy your rights as well? I expect someone from a marginalized group to have more self-awareness and empathy than that. At the very least understand that harassing someone for their lifestyle is absolutely fucked.
To hell with them. They can enjoy their new company, absolute scum.
Also, for people going "Oh this could be coincidence" here's a general timeline and some facts pertaining:
- At some point, Heartbeat was on sale for 50% off.
- Heartbeat dev and girlfriend get outed as transphobic to unfortunately mild controversy. There's plenty of proof, see OP.
- Visible, easily accessible comments on Heartbeat request for the game to be put at 41% discount to dunk on trans people's struggles.
- Heartbeat is placed on sale at 35% off, which puts their bundle discount at 41%. This sale has a lower discount than a prior sale. This sale places Heartbeat and its bundle at weird, uneven pricing. This sale comes after requests from actual monsters to meet exactly that metric.
- Transphobic fuckheads celebrate and make jokes about the suicide of fellow human beings on the Steam page, flocking to the game.
- The sale remains, despite all of the above being readily visible, because it is intentional hate speech.
This is absolutely not a coincidence. This is a targeted hate campaign at trans people. This is a dogwhistle based on the transphobic controversy from the dev that the dev is currently cashing in on no less. Please do not come in here and imply that it is a coincidence.
Using the Steam platform itself to facilitate messages of hate (like using the sale itself as a means to espouse it) would be some contravention in there I imagine. Even outside of specific clauses though you'd have thought Valve just wouldn't want the platform used in that way. Not that I hold any hope or presumption that that's the case.On what grounds is the game in violation of the standards of Steam?
Rebuking transphobia is always a worthwhile battle.Maybe we should all consider a bit more which battles are worth to pick and which are not.
@ppl quoting me:
If you guys disagree it's fine but my point is that the devs are definitely happy that you guys are giving them this exposure.
Nobody had heard about them or their game until the first thread here was started. Now they did. I sure did.
You are giving people more reason to appeal to bigotry by rewarding them with exposure, which is translated directly to money.
This sale kind of proves my point even.
The first "drama" was probably so profitable that they've decided to create one more.
And what's more: they even used the reason itself as a discount margin. It kinda can't get more ironic than this.
It's one thing if you expose someone who is well known, since this way you are making them less than they are, but if you do the same to someone who is essentially nobody you are taking the risk of giving them a voice when they previously didn't, so essentially instead of fixing a problem you are getting the exact opposite.
Maybe we should all consider a bit more which battles are worth to pick and which are not.
That's only my opinion though.
This the truth. They're reaping a few short term profits from people dumb enough to buy the game to own the libs. Meanwhile, they've set fire to their careers. The chuds aren't repeat customers. In a few days, they will just have barren, salted ground and a few bucks from people that actually hate them. The next game isn't gonna sell.
@ppl quoting me:
If you guys disagree it's fine but my point is that the devs are definitely happy that you guys are giving them this exposure.
Nobody had heard about them or their game until the first thread here was started. Now they did. I sure did.
You are giving people more reason to appeal to bigotry by rewarding them with exposure, which is translated directly to money.
This sale kind of proves my point even.
The first "drama" was probably so profitable that they've decided to create one more.
And what's more: they even used the reason itself as a discount margin. It kinda can't get more ironic than this.
It's one thing if you expose someone who is well known, since this way you are making them less than they are, but if you do the same to someone who is essentially nobody you are taking the risk of giving them a voice when they previously didn't, so essentially instead of fixing a problem you are getting the exact opposite.
Maybe we should all consider a bit more which battles are worth to pick and which are not.
That's only my opinion though.