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Hearthstone |OT1| New Era, Same Meta
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That was interesting to watch, particularly since I played a bunch of spiteful Druid and his version does seem better than the slightly different one I was playing.
It really is, and I'm not one to complain about tavern brawls. I like random goofy bullshit, but this one is just so painfully slow. They really should do 15 class cards and 15 raven idols
I like the tavern brawl except for how slow it ends up being due to the animations and picking.
They don't have taunt until unstealthed. The shield is kind of ghosted out.
I disliked the deck when I played it initially quite a bit since all you could keep were Keleseth, Spiteful, and Firefly. I think Dire Mole is a really good addition.
Thanks for the info... interesting mechanic, then.
What is good in wild ladder right now? Tried some evolDKwock but people don't want me to have fun. No cube please.
People have climbed to legend with Reno Hunter, Giantslock, Even Shaman, Even Tempo Rogue, Even Miracle Rogue, Inner Fire Priest, Big Priest, Toggledruid, Jade Druid, All the Paladin stuff, Fatigue Warrior (even legend rank 3), Baku Hunter, Pirate Warrior, Patron Warrior (OMG it's back! ), and Renolock. That's just the posts I've seen on the Wild Reddit. Most climbers are using a Paladin variant because it's the best aggro archetype.
My wild tier list right now:
T1: Giantlock, Cubelock, Aviana Combo Druid, Odd Rogue, Even Shaman
T2: Baku Paladin, Big Priest, Aggro Paladin, Jade Druid, Tempo Mage, Giant Mage
T3: Pirate Warrior, Inner Fire Priest, Renolock, Quest Rogue, Big Beast Hunter, Patron Warrior, Aggro Druid, Zoolock
T4: Odd Hunter, Shudderwock Shaman, Deathrattle Hunter, Exodia Mage, Control Priest, Reno Hunter, Control Warrior
T1: Giantlock, Cubelock, Aviana Combo Druid, Odd Rogue, Even Shaman
T2: Baku Paladin, Big Priest, Aggro Paladin, Jade Druid, Tempo Mage, Giant Mage
T3: Pirate Warrior, Inner Fire Priest, Renolock, Quest Rogue, Big Beast Hunter, Patron Warrior, Aggro Druid, Zoolock
T4: Odd Hunter, Shudderwock Shaman, Deathrattle Hunter, Exodia Mage, Control Priest, Reno Hunter, Control Warrior
Are minions and beasts the same thing? I had Houndmaster Shaw on the battlefield, played Witchwood Grizzly but it didn't get Rush.
I am not sure I understand the appeal of togwaggle druid outside of memes.
It's still a struggle to win against lots of decks after doing your combo. They still have their hand, any board they had at the beginning of the combo etc. It isn't an auto win at combo time. Malygos seems better even with the increase in combo pieces.
It's still a struggle to win against lots of decks after doing your combo. They still have their hand, any board they had at the beginning of the combo etc. It isn't an auto win at combo time. Malygos seems better even with the increase in combo pieces.
All beasts are minions, not all minions are beasts.
Your Witchwood Grizzly should have had Rush.
I think I realized what went on: Rush is not Charge... how many times am I going to make that mistake?! lol
You use Togwaggle plus Azalina Soulthief. You take their deck and their hand, and all they have left if your deck, which has nothing but removal and has been mostly been drawn through to get the combo. They then enter fatigue with zero offensive capabilities while you do whatever. People have said it's very successful on the ladder.
Yeah no I understand that. It's just an awful combo against any deck that builds a board.
You pull the combo and give them a free turn to kill you late game. Yay?
They absolutely still have offensive capabilities.
Well against other control decks, you usually have "dead turns", and that's where you play the combo. Against any kind of Aggro Paladin I think you just let them fatigue themselves, since Call to Arms plus Divine Favor is incredibly hard to outdraw in my experience - you don't even use the combo maybe?
This combo really feels just awful in a lot of matchups.
A burn mage teched in blingtron to kill his aluneth when in fatigue.
It gave him aluneth. Awesome.
A burn mage teched in blingtron to kill his aluneth when in fatigue.
It gave him aluneth. Awesome.
Toggwaggle Druid has Furious Howl, Innervate, and Tar Creeper in place of Maly combo pieces, which should put you in a better position to win through just grinding those types of decks to fatigue.
The combo also puts a 7/7, two 5/5s, and a 3/3 on the board, with 8 mana left over to do whatever else you want with either hand, including 1 mana minions from their hand.
But it does nothing against the board. You basically give them a full free turn to kill you.
I get that it's more interesting because it requires way more thought than malygos, it requires less pieces and whatever, but the fact that it doesn't win you the game immediately upon combo makes it feel really bad to me.
Also I haven't managed to use UI a single game so far. With so many other sources of draw I never had a hand even close to empty enough to use UI. Two felt like way too much.
Any streamers that have been playing the togwaggle deck?
this is how I always felt about Hearthstone :^)
I got two alternative heroes from quests recently (Maiev and whoever that druid hero is) after I started playing a bit again recently, when did they start giving them away? Did I miss any?
Those are the free for everybody ones.
You can get the warlock hero at a public event like a tavern thing. Or with a weird emulator.
Sipiwi popularized it, and is probably the best wild streamer to watch if you want to get better at the game.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/252146149?t=48m48s
Lets see...
liadrin (paladin) is from a wow cross promo
arthas is from beating the lich king with every class
murloc shaman hero from recruit a friend
nemsy (I think is the name) warlock hero is from tavern brawl promo
Yeah i love sipiwi decks.
I'll give it a watch thanks.
I already had toggy and azalina so i only had to craft Aviana for this deck, but definitely not enjoying it that much so far. I also built a malygos version and it feels much better to me.
sorry, but what's a public event? Like, go to a convention or something?
thanks
I knew some of them, but I was pleasantly surprised that they made these two free and easily available
This are the two unavailable right now...
Khadgar was sold for $5 for a limited time as a co-promotion with WWF (Wildlife, not Wrestling). Tyrande was an exclusive Twitch/Amazon Prime item. Both are said to made available at some point again, but that was well over a year ago.
Khadgar was sold for $5 for a limited time as a co-promotion with WWF (Wildlife, not Wrestling). Tyrande was an exclusive Twitch/Amazon Prime item. Both are said to made available at some point again, but that was well over a year ago.
I'm just wondering if they will ever lower the price on the original three alt heroes. Or maybe sell them as a bundle at some point? I'd buy them all for $15.
Blizzard is pretty punishing with their 50% win rate. I would love to see my record today... I bet it's W-L-W-L-W-L-W-L-W-L etc. And I am either winning handily or getting crushed. No middle ground really.
Someone actually is doing the Azalina/Togwaggle combo, wow.
I thought someone would try to run it with Rebuke (The 2 mana Paladin spell that makes their spells cost 5 more next turn), but I guess the Wild one makes it certain to go through, whilst the standard Pali one just forces them to spend a lot of mana if they don't want to say goodbye to their deck. Maybe that might work in the future but not doing much on turn 10 outside of playing a 5/5 and telling them to pay 7 mana or lose their deck probably means they will just kill you with what's on board that turn.
I thought someone would try to run it with Rebuke (The 2 mana Paladin spell that makes their spells cost 5 more next turn), but I guess the Wild one makes it certain to go through, whilst the standard Pali one just forces them to spend a lot of mana if they don't want to say goodbye to their deck. Maybe that might work in the future but not doing much on turn 10 outside of playing a 5/5 and telling them to pay 7 mana or lose their deck probably means they will just kill you with what's on board that turn.
Gonna be dusting some old legendaries soon. For all you wild boys, can you envision aaaanny future scenario in which these cards are played, and important:
Flame Leviathan
Cho'gall
Neptulon
Genzo The Shark
Hemet Nesingwary
Foe Reaper 4000
Ozruk
I figure I already know the answer, but I may as well ask.
Flame Leviathan
Cho'gall
Neptulon
Genzo The Shark
Hemet Nesingwary
Foe Reaper 4000
Ozruk
I figure I already know the answer, but I may as well ask.
You're right. I mixed it up with this card, which I think will eventually be part of a competitive deck in some way:
https://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Hemet,_Jungle_Hunter
Still haven't crafted anything other than Lord Godfrey so far this expansion. Don't see the need when Cubelock and Spiteful Druid are so good at the moment and with the new quests I haven't had to play stuff I don't want to at all so far. Huge difference with the new quests to be honest - so much less restrictive.
I'm up to rank 12 at moment. I'll be really pleased with another rank 10 finish this season if possible. I only play a handful of games a day though so maybe not.
I'm up to rank 12 at moment. I'll be really pleased with another rank 10 finish this season if possible. I only play a handful of games a day though so maybe not.
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