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sibarraz

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Im a bit out of the loop since I stopped playing 7 months ago, which changes has Blizzard done to the game?

I think that I read somewhere that they replaced some classic cards and that also they changed the ladder system, but Im not so sure
 
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I hate it since I'm already so bad at playing around secrets. I keep misplaying against Misdirection with Hunters.
Don't worry it works both ways. I was playing mech pally and failing at playing around my own secrets that a thief rogue had stolen. Give it a shot if you have the dust, it's a pretty decent deck, unfortunately rogue just tramples all over it.

Reached rank 3 this season but the decks I have enjoyed have taken me right back down to rank 5. Res priest, mechathun warrior aren't great for climbing and with so many rogues I probably won't go very far with paladin either.
 

Twinguistics

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Up to rank 13 with my homemade (with help from here) midrange spell Gul'jin hunter. Now I've worked out what they want to do and how my deck counteracts it, I'm not having too much trouble with Murloc shaman, control warrior (who is it that plays this deck, talk about boring! Let's both get up to 50 armour. Sheesh, must have too much free time) or token Druid now. Already at my highest and gonna make the push for rank 10.
 

anyprophet

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Im a bit out of the loop since I stopped playing 7 months ago, which changes has Blizzard done to the game?

I think that I read somewhere that they replaced some classic cards and that also they changed the ladder system, but Im not so sure

they added a few classic cards to replace the class cards that were sent to the hall of fame. we're getting another round of them before the next expansion. they're pretty simple. you can read more about them here: https://playhearthstone.com/en-us/blog/22483774/ . they're weak cards that give the class some flavor so new players know what the class is about.

there have been a few ladder changes but i don't remember the exact timeline of it so i'm not sure what you missed. the biggest change was making it so you only lose 4 ranks when the ladder resets at the beginning of the month. they also added ranks 26-50 so new players are sequestered with other new players for a long time before they start hitting players at rank 25 who have complete meta decks. they also get pack rewards for hitting rank milestones. there was also a minor rebalancing to the number of stars per rank. it went to 5 stars per rank at all ranks back down to fewer stars for lower ranks.
 

sibarraz

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they added a few classic cards to replace the class cards that were sent to the hall of fame. we're getting another round of them before the next expansion. they're pretty simple. you can read more about them here: https://playhearthstone.com/en-us/blog/22483774/ . they're weak cards that give the class some flavor so new players know what the class is about.

there have been a few ladder changes but i don't remember the exact timeline of it so i'm not sure what you missed. the biggest change was making it so you only lose 4 ranks when the ladder resets at the beginning of the month. they also added ranks 26-50 so new players are sequestered with other new players for a long time before they start hitting players at rank 25 who have complete meta decks. they also get pack rewards for hitting rank milestones. there was also a minor rebalancing to the number of stars per rank. it went to 5 stars per rank at all ranks back down to fewer stars for lower ranks.

Gotcha, thanks
 

DSP

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nothing really clicks with me. I enjoy playing espionage but there is just so many rogues on ladder it's not fun when shit doesn't work.

everything else is miserable to play against control warrior that are getting even more absurd day by day, adding hakkar even. I think I'm out until pvp is out.

The rush part of Dr. Boom gotta go, it's BS.
 

anyprophet

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i feel like rogue and warrior are getting nerfed after worlds. although part of the reason why there's so much warrior is because rogue is oppressing the decks that are good against it. will be interesting to see how they deal with rogue. there's so much synergy between their cards that they only really need to break part of the chain. nerfing every core card won't be necessary. personally i hop they leave lackey's alone and nerf the pirate package. i think warrior will be fine if they take rush away from dr boom and change elysiana.
 

Badgerst

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Made it to level 5 with a hybrid control priest. Feels good man. Never been this high. Stuck now though. It's all mech hunters.
 

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nothing really clicks with me.
This. I have been chasing the meta like crazy over the last week. Crafting the new hot decks and then just busting out with them. I'm done with that now. I think I'm just going to build my own decks and see what happens... this is the least fun I've had with Hearthstone, ever. And I thought that having all the cards to make any deck I wanted to was going to be fun. All it has done is made me second guess everything...
 

Cat Party

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This. I have been chasing the meta like crazy over the last week. Crafting the new hot decks and then just busting out with them. I'm done with that now. I think I'm just going to build my own decks and see what happens... this is the least fun I've had with Hearthstone, ever. And I thought that having all the cards to make any deck I wanted to was going to be fun. All it has done is made me second guess everything...
lol, this is so true of this game. I've felt the same way many times. My advice is to worry about the ladder later. Find ways to have fun now. There are always many off-meta decks that work.
 

fertygo

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Muckmorpher Shaman that BoarControl posted on twitter actually feel really good. Another tier 1 deck discovered?
 
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And I thought that having all the cards to make any deck I wanted to was going to be fun. All it has done is made me second guess everything...

Yeah, I think unless you are playing in tournaments, collecting all the cards quickly is a trap. Stick with the decks and/or classes you like and play games for fun. The rest will come naturally.

Some of my greatest hearthstone memories were from grinding out a single deck to Legend or a golden hero. My first month playing Hearthstone I got rank 3 with Sunshine Hunter and I didn't even know what the ranks really meant. I started playing Mech Mage when it was falling out of favor and went from rank 18 to rank 2 in an afternoon. Got legend with Midrange paladin when nobody else was playing it on ladder. Got Legend again with Token druid when it wasn't popular. I got rank 3 and golden shaman with token shaman when Shaman was the worst class in the game.

In all these cases I really only needed one deck and nothing a f2p player couldn't get.
 

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Yeah, I think unless you are playing in tournaments, collecting all the cards quickly is a trap.

In all these cases I really only needed one deck and nothing a f2p player couldn't get.

And with Specialist, you just need all the cards in a class and then be able to craft the specific neutrals... I think I've just got to give up the idea that I can get to Legend for the time being.

And interesting comment about f2p--that had to be early in the game's life, as there is just no way to do that now.
 
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And interesting comment about f2p--that had to be early in the game's life, as there is just no way to do that now.

Anybody can make one Tier 1 deck. Sure if you started an account last month it takes awhile, but I have 3 Tier 1 decks on my EU account for *this* expansion and I haven't played on it in months. I just log in to collect the login rewards and packs. F2P players can log in, do dailies, grind wins and easily get 1 or 2 good decks.

The key is to be laser focused on a single deck and know its ins and outs. If you switch decks, change out cards, switch classes constantly then your headspace is going to be all over the place.
 

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The key is to be laser focused on a single deck and know its ins and outs. If you switch decks, change out cards, switch classes constantly then your headspace is going to be all over the place.
And this explains the the current state I'm in... Here's what normally happens: Find new deck. Play new deck and win tons with it--win rate over 60% (That Murloc deck you spectated, for instance). Think this new deck will get me to Rank 5 or higher (I'm 10 now with the highest 8). Then go on an unbelievable losing streak--win rate goes to under 30%. Curse the game. Find new deck. Play new deck and win tons with it--win rate over 60%. Think this new deck will get me to Rank 5 or higher (I'm 10 now with the highest 8). Then go on an unbelievable losing streak--win rate goes to under 30%. Curse the game... see where I'm going here.

I have no idea what happens from win tons to lose tons... but oh, well. I'm going to just start playing for fun, forget my Rank, and start building for myself. I built a Hunter deck when I first started that was an unoptimized POS, but was super fun to play; same with a Pally deck that centered around Blood Knight and divine shields... fun combo to pull off. I'm having fun playing with Spell and Midrange Hunter, even on ladder, so I'll just stick with those. If I rank up, great. If not, who cares.
 

sibarraz

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Bomb Warrior learned its lesson today. Always play around PyroBlast
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Magnus

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Is the legendary pity timer (every 25-40 packs or whatever it is) expansion specific or agnostic?

I know that each expansion guarantees you one in the first ten packs you open of THAT expansion but I'm wondering about after that.

Bought the Raven bundle through the Battle.net Client and got 4 legendaries (3 normal, 1 golden) from it.. how exactly do I go about buying a second bundle? Haha

I was mistaken. Confused this new bundle with a different one.

Congrats on those pulls, though! I got one leggo and a handful of epics and was happy.
 

Cat Party

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Is the legendary pity timer (every 25-40 packs or whatever it is) expansion specific or agnostic?

I know that each expansion guarantees you one in the first ten packs you open of THAT expansion but I'm wondering about after that.



I was mistaken. Confused this new bundle with a different one.

Congrats on those pulls, though! I got one leggo and a handful of epics and was happy.
Pity timer is per set/expansion.
 

squidyj

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm less concerned about frog than I am about Cairne in that deck;. You're so often behind in the midgame and cairne isn't going to stop you from getting run over and he has a limited upside.


Played 1 game of raza priest and I felt dirty.
That has to be the single most disgusting deck in the game ever.
"it's free damage"
 

scarlet

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I'm less concerned about frog than I am about Cairne in that deck;. You're so often behind in the midgame and cairne isn't going to stop you from getting run over and he has a limited upside.


Played 1 game of raza priest and I felt dirty.
That has to be the single most disgusting deck in the game ever.
"it's free damage"

Was it still good with 1 mana hero power?

I miss playing Raza Anduin Velen Priest.
 

Cvie

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tempo mage is back!

easiest rank 5 since secret pala days
completely dumpsters mech hunter and token druid

heres my list

### Archmages of Dalaran
# Class: Mage
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Dragon
#
# 2x (0) Elemental Evocation
# 2x (1) Arcane Missiles
# 2x (1) Magic Trick
# 2x (1) Ray of Frost
# 2x (1) Shooting Star
# 1x (2) Bloodmage Thalnos
# 2x (2) Frostbolt
# 2x (2) Mana Cyclone
# 2x (2) Sorcerer's Apprentice
# 2x (3) Arcane Intellect
# 2x (3) Cinderstorm
# 1x (3) Stargazer Luna
# 2x (4) Cosmic Anomaly
# 2x (4) Sandbinder
# 2x (4) Vex Crow
# 1x (5) Zilliax
# 1x (7) Archmage Antonidas
#
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#
# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone



edit rank 4 was a bit rougher, startrd running into control shamans
 
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How quickly does the playhearthstone Twitch channel put up recent HCT videos? Am I going to be able to watch the first round today?
Edit: Looks like it's already up.
 
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DassoBrother

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I'm not doubting BC, as he's great player, but doesn't frog mess with your morphers?
The Mango Sentinel mentioned it already but it's not too bad of a low roll. The Muckmorpher still gets the stealth too so you're likely able to capitalize on the draw. I was running double SotF when I first started and then more burn spells and I think I had a Malygos in there too. I would just try to get a SotF in my opening hand and sometimes just roll the dice, you're more likely to get a desirable target than not, and on turn 5 a lot of the time I'd be happier with a SotF than with a buffed Zilliax.
 

sibarraz

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Oct 27, 2017
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Is there more info on what the single player content is going to be?
 
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Rogue needs hit so badly it's not even funny. After defending the card for years, I think I have finally had enough of Prep shenanigans. Take the class out back and put a bullet in it's head. Classic continues to be a thorn in this games side. It's sad. I'd also like to see sap touched, give it the shadowstep effect of reducing the cost after it's sent back to hand. This way it works as is but much less punishing.
 

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Rogue needs hit so badly it's not even funny. After defending the card for years, I think I have finally had enough of Prep shenanigans. Take the class out back and put a bullet in it's head. Classic continues to be a thorn in this games side. It's sad. I'd also like to see sap touched, give it the shadowstep effect of reducing the cost after it's sent back to hand. This way it works as is but much less punishing.
I'm starting to come around to Kibler's point of view. Classic/Basic needs a rework.

Anyone watching the HCT? It's fun to see pros play decks they created in eight days... Hunter looks like crap this tourney. Too many Midrange decks when Mech or Spell seems the better option.

And sorry for the ask, but you can buy the new 15 pack twice? How?
Is there more info on what the single player content is going to be?
Nothing outside the initial reveal.
 

Wiibomb

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OMG guys Rise of Shadows releases in 2 days!!!!

wait........................................
 
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I'm starting to come around to Kibler's point of view. Classic/Basic needs a rework.

Anyone watching the HCT? It's fun to see pros play decks they created in eight days... Hunter looks like crap this tourney. Too many Midrange decks when Mech or Spell seems the better option.

And sorry for the ask, but you can buy the new 15 pack twice? How?

Nothing outside the initial reveal.
Yeah I have said before in this thread. Classic/basic need to go and we need a rotating core set built up for old cards. SO many cards have never seen any play because classic cards were just better. Imagine bringing them back and sending the current bunch out. It would solve so many problems with this game. The main one for me being I am just tired of seeing them after my 4 frickin years playing this game.
 

anyprophet

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watching the day 1 worlds vod right now and it's interesting. the decks are super unrefined. at people are thankfully banning warrior a lot.
 

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that hell is when the dark theme switches randomly to the light theme.
Fits the Avengers/Fallen ban.

I'm looking forward to Bloodyface's matches tonight. He talked some shit about the first round, so he better destroy. I really like him as a commentator and player; I hope he does well. (He's also my Champion and packs would be nice.)
 
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