Hearthstone: Rise of Shadows |OT| Out with the Baku, in with the Boom

V-Faction

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Oct 25, 2017
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Justsaiyan.... Felt like he waited one too many turns of 'do nothing' or 'dont heal'. These tempo decks and zoo decks need to be answered almost blow-for-blow every turn. Stuff like hecklebot, I'm just not a big fan of. The ability to reload or recycle is just so damn high.
 

scarlet

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Oct 25, 2017
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So happy for Viper, hope he could win. He's really a great player, but not as famous as his peers.
 

fertygo

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Oct 25, 2017
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Saiyan feelsbadman, that scarab topdeck fuck him up, and he have a lot of card to kill that flame imp, drew air.. hate to see 1 drop deal 10+ damage
 

Yaboosh

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Oct 25, 2017
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Do players in the semis/finals of these tournaments ever split the winnings to lower variance like in poker tournaments?
 

Twinguistics

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Oct 27, 2017
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A rogue just played a 10-10 Van Cleef on turn 3 against me. Nothing I could do.

Someone please explain how that's not op?
 

aBIGeye

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Nov 2, 2017
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This final lmao. So much fun to watch, but I can't really imagine how it must feels to the players...
 

Novel Mike

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Oct 25, 2017
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Viper's RNG in both this last game and in his game with Sayian was absolutely insane. What a great match though and what a hell of a final game.
 

anyprophet

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Oct 27, 2017
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that was super fun! i'm glad they did it so soon after the expansion. could you imagine this tourney with the same 4 decks we've seen all year long? the games were actually exciting. the entire point of RNG in hearthstone is so games play out differently. which is why everyone was so sick and tired of genn, baku and deathknights.

now i'm excited to see how they nerf rogue and warrior.
 

Noppie

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Oct 27, 2017
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that was super fun! i'm glad they did it so soon after the expansion. could you imagine this tourney with the same 4 decks we've seen all year long? the games were actually exciting. the entire point of RNG in hearthstone is so games play out differently. which is why everyone was so sick and tired of genn, baku and deathknights.

now i'm excited to see how they nerf rogue and warrior.
If they do.
 

Noppie

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Oct 27, 2017
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there's no reason for them not to
Both classes are definitely strong right now, but I don't feel either are as oppressive or unfair as some classes in previous meta's. Looking at sites like hsreplay also show they have their counters and a winrate of ~55%. I don't think that's that big of a problem for now.
 

anyprophet

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Oct 27, 2017
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Both classes are definitely strong right now, but I don't feel either are as oppressive or unfair as some classes in previous meta's. Looking at sites like hsreplay also show they have their counters and a winrate of ~55%. I don't think that's that big of a problem for now.
the real problem is play rates. win rates never tell the whole story. lackey rogue is the best deck in the game by a lot and it's only bad matchup is warrior. which inflates the number of warriors on ladder. and despite that rogue is 30% of the ladder at legend ranks while the bottom 4 classes are at 5% or lower. on top of that balance in specialist tourneys is abysmal and they're taking way too long to complete because of warrior.

they don't need to nuke anything from orbit but some slight tweaks would be welcome. think they could get away with changing just 4 cards. evil miscreant to 3 or 4 health. wagglepick to 3 attack. change elysiana to say "replace up to 10 cards" and take away rush from dr boom.
 

Wiibomb

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Oct 25, 2017
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I just watched the finals, yeah those game were insane, but the last one was top insane, I loved them so much.
 

squidyj

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Oct 25, 2017
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A rogue just played a 10-10 Van Cleef on turn 3 against me. Nothing I could do.

Someone please explain how that's not op?
because he played 4 extra cards to do it and you have the option to run silence.
If there's an issue it's raiding party because it means he can do that play without hurting his hand too much.

making a 10/10 edwin is eh,
making a 10/10 edwin by going coin prep raiding party deckhand is nuts.
 

kazinova

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Oct 27, 2017
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Underbelly Ooze Shaman is so much fun, but I'm either really terrible at piloting it (which is VERY possible) or it's really not that good. But it is fun as hell.

(also: HunterAce got me dem packs!)
 

anyprophet

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Oct 27, 2017
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Underbelly Ooze Shaman is so much fun, but I'm either really terrible at piloting it (which is VERY possible) or it's really not that good. But it is fun as hell.

(also: HunterAce got me dem packs!)
i found that the most consistent strategy was to multiply them with big bad voodoo attached since it creates a board of random 8 drops.

the problem with that is that it's slow and can't beat warrior very consistently.
 

Doomguy Fieri

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Nov 3, 2017
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I know competition softens towards the end of the month but zoolock is doing work. Hit rank 5 for the first time in a few seasons. A lot of the really good board clears rotated out and EVIL agents are OP.
 

Forerunner

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Oct 30, 2017
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I don't know if I'll hit five this month, I'm being lazy. I went from 15-10 in a little over an hour playing Token Druid, only lost two games. Once I got to 10 I started playing Mech Pally and I'm at seven now. I didn't like Token Druid at all, I just played it to win. However, Mech Pally is pretty fun and I'm getting close to my golden portrait, so I'll keep playing it.
 

anyprophet

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Oct 27, 2017
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I assume they were all busy with the world championship. I expect to hear some news this week after they've recovered from all the jet lag.
 

squidyj

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Oct 25, 2017
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Playing Conjurer Mage and I'm seeing a lot of mirrors, I guess HCT popularized the deck for a lot of people.
The thing is most of these people don't really seem to understand the deck and just keep trying to generate value in hand as if they somehow have the tools to wipe out enemy board states or stabilize their life total.