Hearthstone: Rise of Shadows |OT| Out with the Baku, in with the Boom

astro

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Oct 25, 2017
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loatheb is a wild god tbh, locks out so many games in so many decks. thaur is amazing but obviously you have to play a really slow/combo deck for him to hit hard. i use him in my big priest. big warlock is amazing but very expensive. malganis is a key figure in lots of warlock control decks. warrior, you can use odd variants if you like control. but control warlock rarely leaves the top tier of meta in some way shape or form. renolocks (odd renolock i think atm) are always a great second control warlock deck.

so for investment purposes you can't go wrong with controllocks. personally my fave wild decks nowadays are odd rogue, my big priest (which is kinda off kilter with kel thezad and thaus), and quest shaman. odd paladin never goes away and is fairly cheap to craft i think. it too rarely leaves the top 5 decks. but big priest and warlock control decks rarely if ever leave tier 1 so they're safe bets for your playstyle.
Thanks! I picked up ET and have a Warlock deck that needs some work but is fun. Loethb next.

I really need to look into the crazy wild OP combinations here as i'm still in the standard mindset. The first deck I out together was a basic cubrlock thing with ET thrown in and didn't do so well.

There are so many ridiculous combinations they didn't have to design around due to wild relegations, this will take a bit of getting used to...
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Southern California
Haven't been keeping up lately but seems like they're doing a lot of good things. Moving cards to the Hall of Fame at other parts of the year is great, and then up and adding 10 new cards as well is really cool.

Guess all that stuff they said before the new year began wasn't just talk finally.
 
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manhack

manhack

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Oct 27, 2017
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Haven't been keeping up lately but seems like they're doing a lot of good things. Moving cards to the Hall of Fame at other parts of the year is great, and then up and adding 10 new cards as well is really cool.

Guess all that stuff they said before the new year began wasn't just talk finally.
This really has been a great expansion for all the updates they've made between nerfs, card buffs, Arena seasons, and soon to be released cards.

Sadly my Hearthstone time is limited and I feel like I'm losing touch with a game I love.

That said I logged in for some Tavern Brawl and Arena yesterday and had a good time. I'm rank 12 in Standard (I could of swore I was Rank 7)
 

Wiibomb

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
2,303
I'm really surprised the new expansion is being announced "so quickly"

that is how good hearthstone has been these months, there have been nerfs, buffs, new cards, new bundles, tournaments to keep up... it has been really great.

it was so good I don't expect them to do something so big for next expansion cicle, they were exceptional this time.
 
Sep 14, 2018
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I heard a rumor Reno and therefore singleton decks were coming back to Standard, and in anticipation of liking hearthstone again I started playing again yesterday and I'm having a lot of fun! I loved Renolock and Renomage and Razakus sooo much, you know there's a bunch of stuff team 5 gets right even if it's by accident sometimes.

Anyway arena is so good, I started with 0 gold and a ticket cause of some expired run and now I'm up to 550 gold and loving it! Priest and Rogue are the best I'm pretty sure but it's fun to try every class and see their old cards back in a non stupid format.
 

squidyj

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Oct 25, 2017
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I don't mind Singleton decks on principle. I think Reno specifically was bullshit and so was razakus.
 

Yaboosh

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Oct 25, 2017
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The effect needs to be incredibly powerful to make it worth running singleton decks.

Reno was fine. Razakus was obviously too much though. Man it was fun to play though. If only I was the only one allowed to play it it would have been fine.
 

squidyj

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Oct 25, 2017
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I feel like i do something broken every cyclone mage game.
One time it was Bog Shaper off astralmancer (after LPG)
This time it was conjing luna into zentimo and having 2 full rays of frost in hand.
freezing the entire 6 minion board and going to 6 (non-twin) rays in hand with my hunter opponent having no way to deal with my zentimo.
 

Wiibomb

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Oct 25, 2017
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If they are bringing singleton decks again they need another kazakus or reno, period. That's the only way they can justify making a singleton deck.

Not sure why the hate for kazakus, the custom potions were incredibly fun.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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The effect needs to be incredibly powerful to make it worth running singleton decks.

Reno was fine. Razakus was obviously too much though. Man it was fun to play though. If only I was the only one allowed to play it it would have been fine.
It does need to be powerful, but they can't get too crazy since the power level of decks are so much lower than before.
If they are bringing singleton decks again they need another kazakus or reno, period. That's the only way they can justify making a singleton deck.

Not sure why the hate for kazakus, the custom potions were incredibly fun.
I have nothing against Kazakus. I really liked the card. It was the combination of everything else and Raza though, that shit was infuriating.
I feel like i do something broken every cyclone mage game.
One time it was Bog Shaper off astralmancer (after LPG)
This time it was conjing luna into zentimo and having 2 full rays of frost in hand.
freezing the entire 6 minion board and going to 6 (non-twin) rays in hand with my hunter opponent having no way to deal with my zentimo.
I've been having ridiculous high rolls on my Storm Bringers. My last one was Death Wing, Ysera, Tirion, Mecha'thun, and Catrina Muerte.

Also, whenever I play Muckmorpher Shaman, I get Highmane or Cairne off of Big Bad Archmage really really often, especially against Warrior. This game has some super fucked RNG.
 

Wiibomb

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
2,303
I have nothing against Kazakus. I really liked the card. It was the combination of everything else and Raza though, that shit was infuriating.
Yeah I don't think they would do another situation like that.

In fact i don't think they would bring singleton as a main mechanic like they did for the kabal on MSoG. They would probably bring it like they did on the throwback mechanics from RoS, just like a good and powerful 1 off legendary with a bit of support from some card or something and that's it, but nowhere near the support like on MSoG
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Holy crap, Americas grandmasters went 7 hours over time.
7 HOURS.
I didn't watch much, since I was mostly watching CEO, but how did this happen? The only matches I saw were Dog's and I saw the last game of the Frozen/Eddie match. Oh and I saw part of one match with PNC and Amnesiac and turned that shit off when I realized PNC just wasn't gonna concede despite the game being completely over for him.
I'm assuming shit like that and Warrior/Warrior matches contributed to the overrun.
 

squidyj

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Oct 25, 2017
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I didn't watch much, since I was mostly watching CEO, but how did this happen? The only matches I saw were Dog's and I saw the last game of the Frozen/Eddie match. Oh and I saw part of one match with PNC and Amnesiac and turned that shit off when I realized PNC just wasn't gonna concede despite the game being completely over for him.
I'm assuming shit like that and Warrior/Warrior matches contributed to the overrun.
Yeah just seems like a lot of warrior mirrors. Even Frozen and Eddie turned into a war mirror in game 2, frozen got boom off blink on turn 3
 

TitlePending

The Fallen
Dec 26, 2018
667
Maybe I'm not appreciating the Specialist format, but it's gotten really stale to watch Conjuror's Mage, Bomb Warrior, and Lacky Rogue every time.

I'm actually bored of this meta way faster than I had expected and am probably done playing until the next expansion.
 

SnugTeam6

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Oct 25, 2017
450
United States
I'm expecting the expansion announcement today, then the usual little break before reveals, leading to an early August release. Can't wait to see how this is related to League of Explorers.
 

Wiibomb

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm really glad they are bringing back quests again, I love that they made always new archetypes.

Also, worth noting that they have a more evergreen effect on the game, not just an 1 off reward
 

Yaboosh

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Oct 25, 2017
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If they learned their lesson and don't include any "I win, lol" quests this time, it will be good. The two revealed are good but not game winners.
You know mage is going to get big support for that but I don't know how they make it better than Luna Galaxy. Drawing twenty cards is pretty slow.
 

sibarraz

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Oct 27, 2017
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The draw 20 cards is a warlock quest or a mage one? I could swear that it has the warlock colors, but someone here talked about it like it was a mage one?
 

DSP

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Oct 25, 2017
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they are out of ideas. That's understandable, HS is just too simple. I don't know what they could do instead that they haven't done before.
 

Wiibomb

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Oct 25, 2017
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the only complaint I have, and it doesn't have anything to do with this announcement, is that we are getting 4 skins per class except on warrior mage and hunter, just give us some on those classes already
 

Yaboosh

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Oct 25, 2017
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With that being a warlock quest, plot twist gets a bit better and the quest could theoretically be done fairly quickly.
 
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manhack

manhack

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Oct 27, 2017
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Wasn't expecting the new cards and hall of fame changes today, but they are in.


2 big changes for me. Burgle/Tess rogue getting a minor buff:

Card Consistency Updates:
Pilfer:
We’ve updated the card text and functionality for Pilfer to match the recent changes to other “Burgle” cards currently available in Standard.

  • Pilfer Old Text: Add a random card to your hand (from your opponent's class).
  • Pilfer Updated Text: Add a random card from another class to your hand.
Multi-Target Cards: We’ve updated the following multi-target cards to function even if there is only one viable target on the board. These cards will now also properly trigger when played by random effects such as Yogg’Saron.

  • Dark Bargain
  • Cleave
  • Multishot
  • Forked Lightning
 

Cat Party

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Oct 25, 2017
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Wasn't expecting the new cards and hall of fame changes today, but they are in.


2 big changes for me. Burgle/Tess rogue getting a minor buff:
That's a long overdue update to the multi-target cards.
 

Noppie

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Oct 27, 2017
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they are out of ideas. That's understandable, HS is just too simple. I don't know what they could do instead that they haven't done before.
People before Year of Dragon: 'Blizzard should reuse mechanics more, it sucks that these mechanics only get used for 1 expansion and then get replaced with something else'
People during Year of Dragon: 'Man, Blizzard is totally out of ideas. Jesus, there's nothing left'

Cool.
 

Yaboosh

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Oct 25, 2017
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People before Year of Dragon: 'Blizzard should reuse mechanics more, it sucks that these mechanics only get used for 1 expansion and then get replaced with something else'
People during Year of Dragon: 'Man, Blizzard is totally out of ideas. Jesus, there's nothing left'

Cool.
Find where he said anything you attributed to him.


Or is it noteworthy that some might have different opinions?
 

SnugTeam6

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Oct 25, 2017
450
United States
Really hope today's patch fixes the iPad Pro issue. Just bought one last week and it's weird how the game doesn't fill the screen. I read that it was apparently implemented earlier this year, then was broken/reverted in one of the Rise of Shadows patches.
 

Noppie

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Oct 27, 2017
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Find where he said anything you attributed to him.


Or is it noteworthy that some might have different opinions?
Wait, people can have different opinions? I had no idea.

It's just a sentiment that I've seen change more frequently lately, so now that I see it mentioned here I figured, why not post the changing perception I've noticed. It's why I said 'People' and not 'DSP'.

EDIT: So no, I didn't 'attribute' anything to DSP. Cool if you want to read it like that, but completely missing the point if you choose to do so.
 
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Oct 25, 2017
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they are out of ideas. That's understandable, HS is just too simple. I don't know what they could do instead that they haven't done before.
A ton.

People before Year of Dragon: 'Blizzard should reuse mechanics more, it sucks that these mechanics only get used for 1 expansion and then get replaced with something else'
People during Year of Dragon: 'Man, Blizzard is totally out of ideas. Jesus, there's nothing left'

Cool.
This. Really this.

Find where he said anything you attributed to him.


Or is it noteworthy that some might have different opinions?
He didn't and that is not the point.

edit:
Not to mention new keyword lol
 
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jml

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Mar 9, 2018
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New Druid hero portrait is amazing, just wish there was a way to get it without spending $80.