Hey uh...why does Limited Run Games have a transphobe as their Community Manager? (UP: fired)

OaklandKao · Jan 6, 2023

Credit to Seafoam Gaming for posting this in the hangout thread

View: https://twitter.com/prpltnkr/status/1611363598626062336

I can't say I'm one to ever try to police social media follows to anyone. But I can't be alone in not wanting to give money to a company who has their community manager as someone who follows Libs of TikTok, Blaire White, Tim Poole, and spouts bullshit like this.

Brazil · Jan 6, 2023

Libs of TikTok, huh. Very cool.

808s & Villainy · Jan 6, 2023

Can they even fire someone for being transphobic outside of work? As in, what would be the mechanism for termination? Although I guess it's a US company, and employment is at will, so you can fire someone for anything not protected, right?

SpottieO · Jan 6, 2023

808s & Villainy said:
Can they even fire someone for being transphobic outside of work? As in, what would be the mechanism for termination? Although I guess it's a US company, and employment is at will, so you can fire someone for anything not protected, right?

Social media activity is enough to be fired anywhere I've ever worked.

julia crawford · Jan 6, 2023

Oh geez. This is not good at all, especially as a community manager...

Phokal · Jan 6, 2023

Aaaaaaaaaahhh, dangit. I like(d) LRG....

PlanetSmasher · Jan 6, 2023

808s & Villainy said:
Can they even fire someone for being transphobic outside of work? As in, what would be the mechanism for termination? Although I guess it's a US company, and employment is at will, so you can fire someone for anything not protected, right?

Depends on what state LRG operates out of. Not all states are at-will. But yes, as SpottieO pointed out, public social media activity can be grounds for termination, especially if you're acting in a capacity as a representative of your company.

jwhit28 · Jan 6, 2023

808s & Villainy said:
Can they even fire someone for being transphobic outside of work? As in, what would be the mechanism for termination? Although I guess it's a US company, and employment is at will, so you can fire someone for anything not protected, right?

NC is an at-will work state. You can be fired for any or no reason as long as it isn't a protected one like race, sex, religion, etc..

JonnyTorso · Jan 6, 2023

The sad reality is that the majority of Americans probably have somewhat transphobic views. Between conservatives and older generations not getting it, a disturbing amount of people have some hateful views. Progress is certainly being made, but I'm not surprised someone with those views would have been hired initially.

Anyway wouldn't be surprised if it got enough attention and they got either reassigned or let go. You have to be a pretty outlandish asshole to share your backwards views on social media.

Lobster Roll · Jan 6, 2023

808s & Villainy said:
Can they even fire someone for being transphobic outside of work?

Yes. How you represent yourself in the real world outside of work hours can 100% be used as justification to terminate an employee as you still represent the company during your off hours.

LiK · Jan 6, 2023

rare · Jan 6, 2023

808s & Villainy said:
Can they even fire someone for being transphobic outside of work? As in, what would be the mechanism for termination? Although I guess it's a US company, and employment is at will, so you can fire someone for anything not protected, right?

North Carolina is an at-will state, so you can be fired for any reason whatsoever.

BY2K · Jan 6, 2023

SpottieO said:
Social media activity is enough to be fired anywhere I've ever worked.

If you are acting as a representative of that company, like say, a community manager, then yes, your social media activity is ground for being fired.

hikarutilmitt · Jan 6, 2023

I mean I hate the company anyway, but this is... huh.

avec amour · Jan 6, 2023

A tweet from 2016 and her following a bunch of people doesn't warrant a cancellation.

Although she does follow Ben Shapiro and Steven Crowder, so maybe she does deserve the boot…

gilko79 · Jan 6, 2023

Damn. This is a really bad look, LRG.

BradC00 · Jan 6, 2023

Every state is at will, no? Minus Montana, but only 15 people or so live there.

astro · Jan 6, 2023

Men don't need to use self-identification to pretend to be women to sexually assault them, cutting back trans rights isn't going to prevent the men who want to do this from doing it.

Fight the real threat, the actual abusers.

Anyone who thinks otherwise has their head up their arse, and that's putting it politely.

Platy · Jan 6, 2023

Brazil said:
Libs of TikTok, huh. Very cool.

yeah, this, Ian Miles Cheong and Gina Carano takes this outside of "just a transphobe" and puts into right over the alt right/neonazi line

jeelybeans · Jan 6, 2023

SpottieO said:
Social media activity is enough to be fired anywhere I've ever worked.

Really? I have worked at many major corporations and unless you are trying to represent the company outside of work on social media, there has been very little of that.

hyouko · Jan 6, 2023

How does this person square that with some of the games they publish, I wonder?

(Major spoilers for a popular visual novel they publish) The House in Fata Morgana, for instance.

OaklandKao · Jan 6, 2023

avec amour said:
A tweet from 2016 and her following a bunch of people doesn't warrant a cancellation.

Although she does follow Ben Shapiro and Steven Crowder, so maybe she does deserve the boot…

I'm not trying to cancel her. I'm questioning why the fuck a community manager of the bigger Limited Print company likely wants me against the wall.

Tigerfish419 · Jan 6, 2023

Wasn't there something about the owner as well or am I misunderstanding? I swear I heard something else along these lines before. How hard is it for people not to be shitty.

Jedi2016 · Jan 6, 2023

The chances become exponentially higher that they'll let slip something on the official social media and cause the company direct harm. That's enough of a reason right there.

Messofanego · Jan 6, 2023

Even despite the hard right follows, the tweet itself is really transphobic.

Cerulean_skylark · Jan 6, 2023

avec amour said:
A tweet from 2016 and her following a bunch of people doesn't warrant a cancellation.

Although she does follow Ben Shapiro and Steven Crowder, so maybe she does deserve the boot…

Lol I mean why follow a who's who rogues gallery of some of the worst people on the internet if not reflecting your values? This isn't 2006, social media isn't a curiosity, it is how people build their lives and identities

avec amour · Jan 6, 2023

OaklandKao said:
I'm not trying to cancel her. I'm questioning why the fuck a community manager of the bigger Limited Print company likely wants me against the wall.

I agree with you. It's a bad look for them.

PlanetSmasher · Jan 6, 2023

avec amour said:
A tweet from 2016 and her following a bunch of people doesn't warrant a cancellation.

Although she does follow Ben Shapiro and Steven Crowder, so maybe she does deserve the boot…

In my experience most people who are brazen enough to post open transphobia on Twitter don't just "get over it" in a few years.

zYuuKwn · Jan 6, 2023

Don't we have another thing bad about this company as well from the past? (I really don't rememeber what it is or if it is LRG, so if I'm wrong please someone correct me)

Alek · Jan 6, 2023

I feel like this is par for the course with twitter now. The platform is owned and operated by a far-right activist and the platform itself leans more and more in that direction every day. These people are becoming the social norm in that space, rather than seen as outliers and extremists.

But yeah, pretty wild that they ended up working as the community manager. I think these things slip through the cracks in other roles but the community manager is the type of role where they look at your pre-existing engagement in social media spaces before hiring as they help to serve as your credentials for the role. So they likely looked at her socials and were okay with what they saw. The community manager should absolutely represent the values of the organisation they are managing the community of as they are the point of contact for the community. The optics on having a transphobic community manager are incredibly poor and imply that the organisation itself is transphobic as these are values that the rest of the organisation must at least tolerate for her to hold that position.

avec amour · Jan 6, 2023

PlanetSmasher said:
In my experience most people who are brazen enough to post open transphobia on Twitter don't just "get over it" in a few years.

That is true. I want to be optimistic & hope they are no longer transphobic, but I doubt it if they still follow those terrible people.

Robbydude · Jan 6, 2023

lol

Jamesac68 · Jan 6, 2023

Going to need more info on this. The quoted tweet is 2016, and that's a long time ago. People change. I just scrolled through her following list on Twitter and couldn't turn up the names she's supposed to be following, but that's a lot to sift through and all I really did was page to the bottom and use the search function. My torch and pitchfork are secured and put away, but on standby just in case.

Here's a link to her Following tab on Twitter. If you see the mentioned people there let me know, but my search came up blank.

Stormblessed · Jan 6, 2023

JonnyTorso said:
The sad reality is that the majority of Americans probably have somewhat transphobic views. Between conservatives and older generations not getting it, a disturbing amount of people have some hateful views. Progress is certainly being made, but I'm not surprised someone with those views would have been hired initially.

Anyway wouldn't be surprised if it got enough attention and they got either reassigned or let go. You have to be a pretty outlandish asshole to share your backwards views on social media.

I mean yeah but following Libs of TikTok is supporting next level hate. Her and the bearded pedophile literally call for the death of LGBTQIA+ people.

OaklandKao · Jan 6, 2023

Jamesac68 said:
Going to need more info on this. The quoted tweet is 2016, and that's a long time ago. People change. I just scrolled through her following list on Twitter and couldn't turn up the names she's supposed to be following, but that's a lot to sift through and all I really did was page to the bottom and use the search function. My torch and pitchfork are secured and put away, but on standby just in case.

Here's a link to her Following tab on Twitter. If you see the mentioned people there let me know, but my search came up blank.

I just double checked and she's still following Libs of TikTok.

Helix · Jan 6, 2023

fucking hell.... that tweet is transphobic as fuck

super-famicom · Jan 6, 2023

Disgusting

sha1ashaska22 · Jan 6, 2023

808s & Villainy said:
Can they even fire someone for being transphobic outside of work? As in, what would be the mechanism for termination? Although I guess it's a US company, and employment is at will, so you can fire someone for anything not protected, right?

We've had employees fired for posting much less offensive things on social media (in the US).

This is a very bad look for LRG.

Mesoian · Jan 6, 2023

Robbydude said:
lol

I mean this is literally nothing. Let's not start demonizing anyone who's excited for the Harry Potter game. Being optimistic about a AAA game involving one of the largest licenses in the world isn't some sort of dog whistle.

Jamesac68 · Jan 6, 2023

OaklandKao said:
I just double checked and she's still following Libs of TikTok.

Thanks. I knew my search had holes in it, but didn't want to start condemning someone without any verified evidence aside from "random Twitter user".

Tawpgun · Jan 6, 2023

808s & Villainy said:
Can they even fire someone for being transphobic outside of work? As in, what would be the mechanism for termination? Although I guess it's a US company, and employment is at will, so you can fire someone for anything not protected, right?

Will depend on the job.

A community manager is going to be active online. Their online activity might be under more scrutiny.

My cubicle coworker at some random office could be all in on right wing media and transphobic and racist stuff but as long as they keep that personal and private it doesn't really matter. You can't fire someone for laughing at libs at tiktok. You might be able to fire them if they bring that shit to work or start harrassing people online and it comes out.

andymcc · Jan 6, 2023

Jamesac68 said:
Going to need more info on this. The quoted tweet is 2016, and that's a long time ago. People change. I just scrolled through her following list on Twitter and couldn't turn up the names she's supposed to be following, but that's a lot to sift through and all I really did was page to the bottom and use the search function. My torch and pitchfork are secured and put away, but on standby just in case.

Here's a link to her Following tab on Twitter. If you see the mentioned people there let me know, but my search came up blank.

Kenai · Jan 6, 2023

Following Libs of TikTok for years, who go out of their way to get people killed, really doesn't much room for doubt does it? They aren't subtle about it either

Viale · Jan 6, 2023

hyouko said:
How does this person square that with some of the games they publish, I wonder?

(Major spoilers for a popular visual novel they publish) The House in Fata Morgana, for instance.

Doubt they played it. That game, while amazing, also doesn't show its hand in regards to its theming for a good while either, so it's not like it's immediately obvious.

Hecht · Jan 6, 2023

avec amour said:
A tweet from 2016 and her following a bunch of people doesn't warrant a cancellation.

Although she does follow Ben Shapiro and Steven Crowder, so maybe she does deserve the boot…

Thy iCloud Private Relay will not save you

Big Powder · Jan 6, 2023

Give Limited Run some time to respond. If they keep her and nothing changes, then we can get upset and start boycotting them, but we don't know how aware of this they are. There's a decent chance that they are just learning about this from the tweet. Do definitely @ them and let them know that you don't like this, though, and spread the word! The more people saying that this makes them uncomfortable, the more likely that action will be taken. I may just be overly optimistic or charitable, but I have a pretty good feeling that Limited Run Games isn't going to like this.

FatalT · Jan 6, 2023

Robbydude said:
lol

5 year member with 11 posts?

I will never understand how someone can be such a longtime member of a community yet never interact with it.

Alek · Jan 6, 2023

Jamesac68 said:
Going to need more info on this. The quoted tweet is 2016, and that's a long time ago. People change. I just scrolled through her following list on Twitter and couldn't turn up the names she's supposed to be following, but that's a lot to sift through and all I really did was page to the bottom and use the search function. My torch and pitchfork are secured and put away, but on standby just in case.

Here's a link to her Following tab on Twitter. If you see the mentioned people there let me know, but my search came up blank.

Probably unfollowed and removed it, there's no way she hasn't seen the tweets calling her out.

She does love promoting Harry Potter though.

FatalT said:
5 year member with 11 posts?

I will never understand how someone can be such a longtime member of a community yet never interact with it.

Sometimes people do. One of my friends was just a lurker from Neogaf, he never really posted. Maybe had 5-10 posts in the 5-10 years that he was there. He just had the account to read headlines of threads and keep up with gaming news.

The other explanation tends to be that it's an alt of someone that's more active. No reason to think that would be the case here, but the low post accounts that have been around for a long time could be around because they were made shortly after that person's main account was made.

andymcc · Jan 6, 2023

GungJoe said:
Probably unfollowed and removed it, there's no way she hasn't seen the tweets calling her out.

She does love promoting Harry Potter though.

i literally screencapped the libs of tik tok follow just from when i saw this thread go up lol

doof_warrior · Jan 6, 2023

this thread ain't great:

View: https://twitter.com/KaraLynne0326/status/1153455027899514880

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