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Higashi Nogami: "Animal Crossing: New Horizons won't be compatible with cloud backups to avoid manipulating time."
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IIRC, the saves for all previous games were either in the game cards themselves or locked to the console you played on (and couldn't be copied or moved to another). This isn't new and therefore isn't surprising to me.
It's 2019. I have cloud saves from 360 games that released back in 2005.
I support the need for cloud saves but this thread makes it seem like everyone's switches are failing all of a sudden or that a bunch of you are careless or have careless kids who can't handle their toys properly
This, it's a first party game and it's part of a service they are charging money for
You're right, insurance is a scam too because it probably won't happen to me
In all seriousness, sometimes shit just happens. It happened to me with New Leaf with a corrupted save
I've never had a console stolen but I have lost plenty of game saves to corruption.
Stuff does happen but I feel people worry a bit too much. And again I wanna reiterate I support cloud saves. I'm an advocate for being able to stop playing a game and picking up on a different device/system wherever possible. I just think worrying so much about a console failing seems a bit crazy to me.
Also don't get me started on insurance lol
Nintendo and Online continues to be a joke every step of the way. Also why do they honestly care about if some players want to manipulate time? The fact that the game is on a 24-hour timer is honestly the worst part about Animal Crossing in my eyes.
Ye I don't really expect to need it, would just be good to have the option
It's more that every single online game they make continues to be completely ass backwards
There is litteraly 99.9999% of games not based on a 24 hour timer.
Let this to Animal Crossing. Everything is built around that. It's like "having to jump in Super Mario Bros is honestly the worst part about the serie".
You're not forced to like Animal Crossing, but you can't say the 24 hour timer is the worst part, it's why that game is amazing. It lives with and without us.
Calendar year has little to do it because the Wii in 2006 already allowed to backup saves, but some games blocked this by design, not by technical limitation. Just like now.
Can't say im surprised but makes no difference to me. Locking cloud saves behind a subscription is so scummy (looking at you too Sony)
this makes sense to me. if there were cloud saves
Thank God they delayed it, if it came out in December it would be awful
skipping around in animal Crossing is one of the inherent parts of the game imo
Thank God they delayed it, if it came out in December it would be awful
No, Switch saves are system-locked. Nintendo goes all in on protecting your save data from yourself.
That's fucking dumb. They need to disable that with a patch at some point. (Suddenly my view on everyone's complaints in this thread is shifting)
It has everything to do with it. Sony and Microsoft have figured this out for years now, only Nintendo struggles. Either they have bad designers at the helms of their studios or they are bad at technical implementations, whichever one it is is up for debate but regardless the consumer is getting a compromised product.
Even on the 3DS, where you can back up saves to an SD, you still can't backup New Leaf
I learned this the hard way when my SD card got corrupted. I had a backup, but New Leaf refuses to read it and wants me to start a new save because the SD card save didn't match or some other vague error message
I went from playing New Leaf once a week to not touching for 5 years
I lost my New Leaf town as well when I simply switched to a newer SD card for more storage :(
i wouldn't be surprised if decisions like this push people to hacking their switch, since it lets you backup saves.
Does this game have online leaderboards with real prizes, or something?
Because if not, who the fuck cares if people manipulate time? Jesus christ...
Because if not, who the fuck cares if people manipulate time? Jesus christ...
Sony and Microsoft have no games like Animal Crossing or Pokémon.
Well, hackable Switch's haven't been on sale at retail for almost a year. Generally, only the Switch's sold at retail between launch and July 2018 are hackable, which is still a lot of them.
I don't think Nintendo games are so unique that the combined libraries of the last almost 15 years of games hosted on Xbox and PlayStation consoles (first and third party) feature nothing comparable. Everyone else in the industry has figured this out except Nintendo.
And there's certainly nothing unique about Splatoon 2 that justifies its exclusion from cloud save compatibility.
I don't know about Splatoon 2 because I haven't played enough of it but I tend to agree with you there. But for AC/Pokémon I don't see comparable titles in the rest of the industry that we could take that standard as the one to follow, no. Feel free to provide examples.
Did Nintendo give a reason why Splatoon 2 isnt supported? I strongly assume its because the data is handled locally rather than being server based (so if you e.g rank down in the game, rolling back to an older save would also restore you rank for that point), but i'm just wondering if they gave a reason for it.
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Item manipulation is the official reason. You can cheat by save scumming to get the rare items.
I feel like this is fine? Destiny, MH doesn't cloud save either for your online account so this doesn't seem to be extremely bad. Unless I'm reading this wrong
Just in case the obvious needs to be said, Animal Crossing is a game you are meant to sick lots of time into a little by little over a long period of time. If you're save file goes you can't just do a speed run and catch up because the gameplay is built around gradually developing attachments to your home, town and virtual animal friends.
If your save file goes, I guess that's like your favorite MMO or Fortnite ending. It isn't coming back. If there was one game on the Switch that needs cloud saves then it needs to be this one.
If your save file goes, I guess that's like your favorite MMO or Fortnite ending. It isn't coming back. If there was one game on the Switch that needs cloud saves then it needs to be this one.
I couldn't even get into new leaf. I remember the day I bought it once I got thru the first dialogue batch (like 15 min) I couldn't even play the game again until "tomorrow".
destiny saves server side. it's effectively cloud saved by default. i'd take that over what nintendo are doing tbh.
I don't think any I would provide would convince you. Even if we assume these games are doing something no other game is (a notion I find rather ridiculous) there would still be ways of implementing cloud saves while preserving the integrity of the game file through online authentication and/or flagging suspected abuses.
Yeah it's all stored locally, which is absurd for a game of its nature.
Nintendo can be an incredibly dumb company sometimes. The only thing I can say about stuff like this is that its good for comedy.
Destiny is server side, MHW (at least on PS4) does allow you to use cloud saves because I use it
That's the core of the game design.
What a bunch of dumb and ignorant (one-sentence) answers in this thread from people who don't even read and try to understand this.
It's basically mobile game time gating in a pretty disguise. Animal Crossing is a more limited experience, because of it. They can keep it for al I care, but they weird ways of trying to enforce it is still baffling to me.
I think if they changed the game to a faster clock or manual control, the game would be better, if you don't like that sure, you do you.
I don't really play or know much about Animal Crossing but that sounds pretty cool and makes sense for this decision.
As someone that was on the fence about this series, and that seriously considered making this my first entry, no cloud saves is a dealbreaker. Nintendo should be better at this.
