Anything is possible, but I just don't see the point of arguing semantics, and nitpicking the incident here since we have the benefit of hindsight.I think it's possible this kid wasn't actually set on killing someone. I mean the fact that this coach even had the opportunity to intervene before any harm came to students suggests that there was a significant degree of hesitation and doubt in the kid. There was obviously evidence of that as well, hence his sentence.
I mean if you read the article it spells all of that out for you. He only pointed the gun at himself, all evidence points to it being suicide, prosecutors believe it was a suicide attempt and they have every incentive to pursue heavier charges if the evidence suggested otherwise.Anything is possible, but I just don't see the point of arguing semantics, and nitpicking the incident here since we have the benefit of hindsight.
I just don't see the point of trying to point out it was a suicide attempt. What is the particular reason to do that for this story? That's really what I was trying to get at if you know what I mean.
It doesn't make what the coach did any less brave, nor does it change the fact it was a student who brought guns to the school intending to harm, even if it's just himself.
That should really be the crux of this story.
Same. Imagining what was being said and where they both were in their heads during that time is doing my head in.Damn, I was not expecting what happened in that video.
It's putting me in an emotional state. That kid was in pain. Glad the coach did this.
Idk if this is the course of action for all situations , but the coach felt it was the way. And it was. Kudos.
I guess that's fair.I mean if you read the article it spells all of that out for you. He only pointed the gun at himself, all evidence points to it being suicide, prosecutors believe it was a suicide attempt and they have every incentive to pursue heavier charges if the evidence suggested otherwise.
The difference is that the kid in question is getting painted as a potential murderer and that's not true. Him committing suicide in his classroom his dangerous and traumatic for other students but it's worth pointing out he didn't intend to murder anyone. Especially because his name is being plastered all over the media and he probably wants to move on with his life
Ah I didnt realize thisI mean if you read the article it spells all of that out for you. He only pointed the gun at himself, all evidence points to it being suicide, prosecutors believe it was a suicide attempt and they have every incentive to pursue heavier charges if the evidence suggested otherwise.
The difference is that the kid in question is getting painted as a potential murderer and that's not true. Him committing suicide in his classroom his dangerous and traumatic for other students but it's worth pointing out he didn't intend to murder anyone. Especially because his name is being plastered all over the media and he probably wants to move on with his life
He was 19 and our management of firearm sales is garbage.It's a great story and a lucky one. The chief issue is still why the fuck some kid had access to a gun like that.
He's been through enough already
Exactly. It's still heroic that the coach stopped him, but what he really did was prevent a public suicide in front of a bunch of high school students, not a mass shooting.Ah I didnt realize this
explains a whole lot with the video
an actual shooter wouldn't likely do that. Pretty heavy stuff, and we can only hope the kid gets better
video released. Major show of bravery and compassion on display.
Im lowkey shook by how well that was handled like truly awe inspiring. Coach deserves all the medals in the world for thatGod damn what a brave, compassionate example of deescalation. A true hero. Perfectly handled.
video released. Major show of bravery and compassion on display.
According to The Oregonian's John Canzano, last week's Fiesta Bowl featured a real-life Rudy moment. Coming into the game, Oregon's Dane Ebanez had never made a bowl-game appearance, despite playing at the school for four years and being named scout team player of the year in successive seasons.
In the closing minutes of the Fiesta Bowl, one of Ebanez's teammates, Keanon Lowe, sought to change that by faking an injury just before an Oregon kickoff. Ebanez was sent into the game in Lowe's place, and very nearly made a tackle on the play.
And/or the coach if they showed up when he was holding the shotgun
:54 is a bit odd too. with the kid at the coach's neck?At just under a minute in that video, the would-be-shooter touches the coach's face gently. That part is sitting with me in a weird way that I can't quite parse just yet.
Seriously. I graduated high school just before Columbine. We never thought about stuff like that.Jesus. The kids fleeing.
When I was in grade school my biggest fear was people making fun of my acne.
"Everything lined up for me to be in that room on that day and make that play," Lowe told ESPN. "It was like, 'All right, Keanon, you say you want to change lives. You say you want to do all this. You say you want to be here for the kids. Well, prove it, right there, in that instant."
That's not the Jedi way