It goes Reggie, Jay-Z, Tupac and Biggie, Andre from Outkast, Jada, Kurupt, Nas and then me
I don't get how every time there's positive impressions on social media people lose their minds, like chill the fuck out.God, "Joker" is mediocre as fuck.
It's shallow as fuck and people out here pretending it's the next "Taxi Driver."
Parasite soon.
I don't get how every time there's positive impressions on social media people lose their minds, like chill the fuck out.
i'm really curious about your thoughts RE: the ehrlich review now that you've seen itGod, "Joker" is mediocre as fuck.
It's shallow as fuck and people out here pretending it's the next "Taxi Driver."
Yes. Lets forgive him.
I think Ehrlich gives this film a lot more credit than it frankly deserves. It's not a grand reinvention of "dark superhero cinema". Rather, it's intellectual click-bait. It's the kind of movie that begs you to give it a watch because its "provocative" and "edgy" and "contemporary" only for you to discover its only superficially so with no attempt to be deep.i'm really curious about your thoughts RE: the ehrlich review now that you've seen it
But, I don't see that "provocative spirit". In other words, it doesn't provoke for a reason. All I see is the edgelord's fingerprints on a script that's provocative because it gets the people going. There's nothing justifying the need to provoke.It's possessed by the kind of provocative spirit that's seldom found in any sort of mainstream entertainment, but also directed by a glorified edgelord who lacks the discipline or nuance to responsibly handle such hazardous material, and who reliably takes the coward's way out of the narrative's most critical moments.
i generally agree and think any speculation about what acts might be 'inspired' by this were, expectedly, completely unjustified, but i also don't understand how anyone could have taken that away from watching this. the movie is basically "Bernie Goetz inspires Occupy Wall Street" - two cultural events that were widely discussed amongst the public at large without inspiring anyone to start randomly murdering people - and it's cynical to the point of being nihilistic. the titular character all but looks (or maybe he actually does?) straight into the camera and says "I HAVE NO IDEOLOGY." what is there to even emulate?I think Ehrlich gives this film a lot more credit than it frankly deserves. It's not a grand reinvention of "dark superhero cinema". Rather, it's intellectual click-bait. It's the kind of movie that begs you to give it a watch because its "provocative" and "edgy" and "contemporary" only for you to discover its only superficially so with no attempt to be deep.
Ehrlich's thesis, the way I see it, is this:
But, I don't see that "provocative spirit". In other words, it doesn't provoke for a reason. All I see is the edgelord's fingerprints on a script that's provocative because it gets the people going. There's nothing justifying the need to provoke.
I think Ehrlich is trying too hard to justify why "Joker" should be talked about in intellectual circles, when it really shouldn't. He, and the rest of critics, fell for Joker's trick.
Its because of this that I dislike it a lot. It takes the Benioff & Weiss approach to themes and symbolism and subtlety and nuance.i don't think i disliked it as much as you, though i like it less the more i think about it. i think there's some interesting themes - what happens when income disparity hits a boiling point, the exploitation of clearly aggrieved or mentally ill people for entertainment - but it doesn't really seem interested in exploring them beyond picking them up and being like "hey, look at this" and then putting them back on the shelf.
i find it hard to believe Joaquin, one of my favorite actors in Hollywood, would deliver a performance as terrible as torre is describing.