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Hollow Knight (Switch) - Review Thread
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As someone who likes Guacamelee, this game pales in comparison with Hollow Knight, specially after City of Tears.
There is one character I believe is based upon a cockroach but she's an npc an entierly optional
Guacamelee is missing the most important factor to make it a contender for the top tier of Metroidvanias.
And that's a genuine sense of exploration and reward also culminating in a lacklustre map, but that's just my opinion at least
And that's a genuine sense of exploration and reward also culminating in a lacklustre map, but that's just my opinion at least
The DLC is included but you're not going to stumble onto any of until late game in all likelihood.
The forest are specifically is not DLC.
The free updates added some extra bosses and an extra questline that's a bit tricky to start. No new areas that you can accidentally stumble into (sort of).
That's fair.
I don't particularly love the "oh, I can't reach that ledge? Guess I better come back when I have a new ability then" aspect of Metroidvania's (I know, I know...), so that didn't bother me too much. What I do love is platforming, so that's why Guacamelee resonated with me so much.
But I definitely understand that criticism.
As long as it's just a little bit that should be ok--mainly concerned about recurring enemies and stuff. What's the name of the NPC?
This game is magical. Easily one of the best Metroidvania game I ever played, and I loved every second of it.
The combat and platforming in Guacamelee is pretty damn fun, I kind of feel like its core could benefit from linear stages more but who knows.
Well we have a sequel coming up so maybe they can mesh our preferences closer together this time.
Best I got was my 60fps Pixel XL:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY1Y_61BADQ&feature=youtu.be
I see about 3 frames of lag between when I fully depress the B button and when the jump animation starts. Is that what you're talking about? Because 50 miliseconds of lag is not what I'd call noticeable.
Easily
You dropped it too quickly. You'll get a map and once you past the beginning you'll not stop playing.
This would have been my 2017 GotY, easily. It will probably be 2018's for me.
I adored BotW, Super Mario Odyssey, Yakuza 0 and the rest, but this is giving me that feeling of playing those once in a lifetime games that form my all-time top 10. I've convinced like 5 people to buy it too, and they're all loving it.
What an achievement it is. I knew it was going to be good due to last year's impressions, but I wasn't ready for how true that was.
I adored BotW, Super Mario Odyssey, Yakuza 0 and the rest, but this is giving me that feeling of playing those once in a lifetime games that form my all-time top 10. I've convinced like 5 people to buy it too, and they're all loving it.
What an achievement it is. I knew it was going to be good due to last year's impressions, but I wasn't ready for how true that was.
You'll be stuck looking for the next destination quite frequently. The game asks you to waste a lot of time
Early on in the game all you need to do is just explore and try to find new places you haven't been before. In this game there's no such thing as "somewhere you aren't supposed to be yet" so just feel free to wander and look for new pathways. Doing that will inevitably lead you to upgrades, bosses, maps, and other items. That's how you progress.
I don't like that in other games because it's harder to track but here when I open the map I can easily see that there is that path I couldn't reach and it must be from a missing ability or some gameplay mechanic I have yet to learn. Also quick map accses is great.
Can't make myself purchase a game like this. If there is ever a switch drought I could pick it up
Ori is one of my favourite games. If this is like it then I'll need to buy it.
I'd like to be able to zoom into the map a little further but other than that, I don't have any real problems with it. I guess people don't like that it's not a perfect representation of each area? That it doesn't always highlight areas that you'll have to return to later?
edit: Oh yeah, it also bugs me that I have to waste a badge slot on a compass. I turn it off for boss fights and that's it.
edit: Oh yeah, it also bugs me that I have to waste a badge slot on a compass. I turn it off for boss fights and that's it.
After a while, you can play without the compass. Really depends on your spatial memory, although I understand why most would find that charm mandatory.
The name is bretta, the wiki calls her a beetle, you first can rescue her, then she mostly sits on a bench pretending not to look at you.
I guess I'm better at that stuff when it comes to 3D spaces. I can form a mental map of Dark Souls fareasier than Hollow Knight.
My main problem with many Switch Indies is that they're overpriced for the content and play time they offer. Seems like this game doesn't have that problem, on top of actually being a great game. I think I will buy this.
Frankly, at 15$, this is a steal. The game is easily worth 45$. And this is no exageration.
Yeah you're getting 3 metroidvanias in 1 pretty much. A wealth of content and most important of all, it's all good too.
Bought. ;-) I was looking at Owlboy and this, seems like an easy decision.
Yeah. I find it weird when people don't want to play great games due to their length, which is something that I see a lot in indie metroidvanias (Steamworld Dig 2, Yoku's Island Express, etc) but Hollow Knight just doesn't have this problem. I'm 30 hours into the game and it still isn't over, I know I'll put at least 10 more in. How such a small team was able to maintain such high level of quality and vision and spirit for such a long game is something I cannot grasp.
BS...where comes this narrative from? you know that all games are time wasters anyway? i really hate this "game doesn´t respect my time" stuff, it´s meme worthy at this point. When there is a game that demands exploration on your own it is suddenly "wasting your time"? so, every game has to provide instant gratification? hilarious...
What a wonderful game, nowadays I struggle to a) find time to play new games or b) have new games keep my attention for longer than half an hour but Hollow Knight is a blast to play. Get it you, yes you person lurking this thread wondering if game is worth all the praise it's getting or if it is worthy of your time. GET IT!
I dunno man, I still call black magic, or some deal with the devil type shit. If I were to use HK as my new baseline for Metroidvania games to buy in terms of price, content, mechanics, music or looks I don't think I'd ever be able to play one ever again. It's one of those games that I just have to accept exist outside of the usual offerings of its genre because it's such a leap ahead, specially for an indie game, but I still think I like it more than both Super Metroid or SotN. It's literally a game I find hard to believe exists.
Maybe it's thanks to voodoo? Voodoo chicken!
But yeah, in all seriousness, Hollow Knight sets up a new standard. I'm looking forward the new content for that game, and Team Cherry's future projects.
As opposed to every other Metroidvania? "wasting" time is practically the genre's MO,
I don't really get the game wasting your time complaint.
I spent a whole day playing without getting a new upgrade yet I explored multiple new areas, learned new monster fight patterns and became more familiar with the map and my way around. I opened more stagways and learned about the lore and world just wandering for hours. Game felt constantly rewarding, just maybe not always in a linear way.
and even then... in this game, most of the ways are open to your skill after you get the dash. you can try to wait for a better upgrade or just try to skill your way to many places
hell i even learnt the nail arts AFTER 40h XD i didnt even know there was something like that. you just need to explore and enjoy without concerning about what you dont have, and try to think where can you go with what you actually have/are capable of
hell i even learnt the nail arts AFTER 40h XD i didnt even know there was something like that. you just need to explore and enjoy without concerning about what you dont have, and try to think where can you go with what you actually have/are capable of
No it doesn't.
As soon you get the map for a location you always have multiple directions to explore. Just get the marker for your location and the quill in the shop and go on exploring.
I've not wasted time a single minute in this game. Backtracking to some vendor or location always left me with more geo to spend.
Lol.
Just get a location marker and quill in town and search for the mapmaker in each area. You can locate him by thepaper trail he leaves and at some point you always hear him humming, that's where he's located.