Modern Vintage Gamer, someone who was prolific on the Xbox emulator scene is all over the Switch too now.
The Switch scene is going to be incredible!
The Switch scene is going to be incredible!
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[Homebrew] Outrun ported to Switch in just 5 hours
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This is going to be my long term strategy once the homebrew scene really picks up steam.
I'll pick up another Switch as my "legit" machine, and just have my launch device as my homebrew machine.
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I've been eyeing the GBA emulator someone's ported. It's almost there...I can finally ditch my GBA and cartridges.
I've been eyeing the GBA emulator someone's ported. It's almost there...I can finally ditch my GBA and cartridges.
Yeah, assuming there's some sort of advanced model at some point, that's exactly what I'll do. Upgrade my main account and use my 2017 model for homebrew.
This is without a doubt a better idea then buying another now. Which I nearly impulse did earlier haha
No hardware acceleration yet. It'd run like shit.
Yep I know it's a joke lol
Yup. I'll probably wait for the switch revision to come out, and then use my original for homebrew. Switch could be a superb emulation machine.
Homebrew on Switch is gonna be so good once it matures a bit. I'll probably dive into it whenever the inevitable Switch pro or New Switch or whatever releases just using my original for homebrew.
DevKitPro can apparently target the Switch, and the person in the YouTube video did quite a bit of Xbox homebrew back in the day so he's pretty familiar with console development. If there's a decent port of something like SDL then I imagine that porting something wouldn't be too hard.
You mean a second one for normal purposes.
New Switches likely won't be hackable.
yup, SDL got ported.
If only we had the source code...
Originally meant a second hand OG unit, but then reminded about the revision that's most likely due.
So yeah I'll get a revision to use as the primary machine and use my original unit for homebrew
Porting arcade Outrun seems like a really poor choice to me. Because I can see one very clear case of copyright infringement in that video: The Ferrari.
That original Ferrari sprite cannot be used anymore, not by Sega, not by anyone. All Outruns with actual Ferraris are no longer available for purchase. The 3DS Outrun uses an off-brand Ferrari-like instead. So unless those 5 hours included getting a licensing deal with Ferrari, it's an unlicensed Ferrari reproduction.
Likewise, don't port Afterburner. You don't want to get people who make fighter jets angry.
That original Ferrari sprite cannot be used anymore, not by Sega, not by anyone. All Outruns with actual Ferraris are no longer available for purchase. The 3DS Outrun uses an off-brand Ferrari-like instead. So unless those 5 hours included getting a licensing deal with Ferrari, it's an unlicensed Ferrari reproduction.
Likewise, don't port Afterburner. You don't want to get people who make fighter jets angry.
Um, and I'm sure he has the license to port the actual Outrun code? Somehow I doubt licensing agreements were at the top of this dude's mind.
I agree. And yet people are cheering for it. But I supposed the [Homebrew] tag means it can't be piracy.
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Yawn. Ride your hobbyhorse elsewhere please instead of stirring up trouble here.
He doesn't need a license to port the thing.
Unless he's releasing the game files himself into the public, it literally isn't piracy whatsoever.
Pretty much lol
And if that was an actual issue, Cannonball (the homebrew Outrun engine this Switch port is derived from) would've been sacked a long ass time ago.
No. I don't support piracy, no matter what you call it. I just call for honesty here. Is this, or is it not, an unlicensed copy of copyrighted code?
If you want to make your own Outrun-like game and get it to run on Switch, by all means, do so. Actual arcade Outrun with expired license Ferrari? That's not even a gray area.
Didn't forget, just put a spin on it like the snowflake I am.
You don't need a license to port jackshit. You can port literally every game in the world and that's not a problem. Not even arcade Outrun. It doesn't even enter a gray area at all. It's 100% fine legally.
Oh I see.
Looks like it.
PS2 support would be amazing on this. Imagine Def Jam Fight for NY on this bad boy. You would pull it out of your bag and it's on. Especially since the joycons would work on the MP.
Unlicensed copies of copyrighted code is legal? I'm sure you have sources for that. Oh and get one for unlicensed reproductions of cars, too. Outrun is a double whammy.
I'm not saying this is not impressive, because it most certainly is, but... I don't see how it can be legal. The graphics and music belong to Sega. The Ferrari to, well, Ferrari. And yet here's a Youtube video loudly saying "I copied all of that!" That just doesn't seem all that smart to me.
It's 100% absolutely legal to port whatever the fuck you want, yes. The only illegal thing would be if he's distributing it, which he isn't, and im still waiting for you to show he is.
Guys, SDL is SUPER easy to learn. It has built in apis for easy 2d programming.
Give homebrew a try on Switch. You'll be surprised by what you can do!
Give homebrew a try on Switch. You'll be surprised by what you can do!
Says who?
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/106
"exclusive rights [...] to reproduce the copyrighted work"
Additionally, per Oracle v Google: "It is undisputed that computer programs— defined in the Copyright Act as a set of statements or instructions to be used directly or indirectly in a computer in order to bring about a certain result, 17 U.S.C. § 101—can be subject to copyright protection as literary works."
I see a Youtube video with audiovisual content belonging to Sega and Ferrari, documenting the existence of an unlicensed port. It even says "1986 (C) SEGA" on it. Which the Switch port most certainly is not. In part because the Switch didn't exist in 1986.
Messing with things in your own home for learning? Whatever. Sharing that online? Ehh... Doing so with the content of a third party? Nah, don't do that, it's dangerous.
This isn't copy-righted code. It has nothing to do with what Yu Suzuki and co wrote back in 1987. Of course, that's owned by Sega.
It's one guy's effort to reverse-engineer the game's behaviour and understand how everything worked. He did it all by his own research. This has been done multiple times already for a variety of games, from the popular ScummVM to BloodGDX, to basically everything from the emulation scene.
So please educate yourself. Software patents, in the case of existing, hold no value under EU's law, for example.
Another entirely different issue are the game assets, which in this case are extracted from the original game ROMs. The legality of that isn't a gray area either. If you own the board you can do it.
It's one guy's effort to reverse-engineer the game's behaviour and understand how everything worked. He did it all by his own research. This has been done multiple times already for a variety of games, from the popular ScummVM to BloodGDX, to basically everything from the emulation scene.
So please educate yourself. Software patents, in the case of existing, hold no value under EU's law, for example.
Another entirely different issue are the game assets, which in this case are extracted from the original game ROMs. The legality of that isn't a gray area either. If you own the board you can do it.
what exclusive rights? There are no "exclusive rights to reproduce the copyrighted work". It's why emulators can't be taken down.
At worst they could try to take down the video. Nothing more than that. There's nothing stopping me from porting literally every game that has ever existed, provided im not sharing the files myself.