House approves sell-or-be-banned TikTok measure, attaching it to foreign aid bill
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They haven't voted on it but the House made the changes that they asked for.
Just went past the number of votes requires to pass the bill. So Yes it's approved now.
I think the preference is that they sell, but...yeah. There's a reason this is in the article:
They want young people to use the app to get other young people to vote before going against their wishes on this.
Maybe it's okay to not take cues on how to govern from a brutal dictatorship.
The article in the WSJ last month explained pretty well why this was being pushed so hard all of sudden when this was really just something Trump wanted and everyone around here hated it when he wanted it. It's because it was detrimental to Israeli messaging as it it was very pro-palestine.
WSJ: How TikTok Was Blindsided by U.S. Bill That Could Ban It
WSJ: How TikTok Was Blindsided by U.S. Bill That Could Ban It
The fact that this was bundled into the foreign aid bill for Ukraine is such bullshit and should be illegal. So if a House member didn't want to ban TiTok they would vote no on this bill...but that would also mean they're voting no on supporting Ukraine. It's absolute lunacy how this is structured.
Separate issues, separate bills. End of story.
Separate issues, separate bills. End of story.
I'm just here to see how the Supreme Court handles the first amendment lawsuit that comes from this. Pretty sure it's gonna be that the US constitution doesn't apply to foreign entities but still interesting nonetheless.
They really hate that people were able to see what was happening in Gaza in real-time so, their pro-Israeli propaganda stopped working.
Yeah, we should definitely be taking our cues from the Chinese government
I don't disagree as I am very against this.
But honestly that's how bills have been for over 100 years.
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Sometimes this feels like unnecessary noise to draw us from lets see: a genocide in Gaza, the exponential rise in trans hate, abortion etc.
God damn. If banning TikTok is enough to swing the election to Trump, than we deserve it and fuck those dumb kids.
Nobody under thirty votes (or at least rarely in numbers large enough to matter).
If Zoomers run into the arms of a fascist after the GOP House passed a bill that might result in Tik Tok being banned after the election happens, then maybe we should be reflecting on why they were going to bat so hard for a toxic social media app that's warped their perspectives this much.
Not true.
Young people do vote, and Biden barely won the last election, and it seems real dumb to discount tens of thousands of voters just so they ban an TikTok (for no reason).
That's like, objectively not true. 2020 and 2022 saw record-breaking turnout by under 30s which helped dems secure the presidency in 2020, swung the senate in 2022 and made massive gains in the house in the same election.
Like it or not, dems need young people to vote and disenfranchising the segment of the youth might seriously come back to bite democrats in November. Dangerous game they're playing.
Yeah it seemed very weird why all of a sudden this became a big deal again after it completely failed to gain traction last time. Turns out it's all in the name of the country's continued baffling support of Israel's genocide.
Moves like this can genuinely cost Democrats the reelection. I don't they realize there's actually an upper limit to the "what are ya gonna do, vote for the other guy??" rhetoric.
This wouldn't matter if Biden's dumbass wasn't so enthusiastic about signing the bill. Democrats are all in on this bullshit. Even with multiple hard right Republicans coming out and making it clear that they want to buy TikTok.
Good, we should only use social media controlled by US based conglomerates, as God intended /s.
I fully support banning TikTok and most other forms of social media btw, but there's no chance in hell ByteDance doesn't arrange a sale to someone like Microsoft, which will most likely result in a seamless transition for end users. Making this move right now it's going to bring A LOT of negative publicity for the Dems just before the election, and it's not like Republicans aren't salivating at the idea either so... Why couldn't they just wait until after the election to pass the law if they're so inclined?
I fully support banning TikTok and most other forms of social media btw, but there's no chance in hell ByteDance doesn't arrange a sale to someone like Microsoft, which will most likely result in a seamless transition for end users. Making this move right now it's going to bring A LOT of negative publicity for the Dems just before the election, and it's not like Republicans aren't salivating at the idea either so... Why couldn't they just wait until after the election to pass the law if they're so inclined?
I don't really have an opinion about the main topic either way, but I find this line kind of funny. I imagine at the point external bodies can see it's no longer hypothetical it's far too late.
If repelling Trump hangs on kids, fuck all the pieces of shit voting for him, not the kids.
I don't know about this.
I know the other day there was some news about lobbyists from the Chinese govt (and not from TikTok independently) coming to try to argue against this bill, and I'd be interested in hearing about that relationship and what it means relative to this bill. I want to believe that the allegedly small percentage of US users means that they don't care, and that US influence/money is unimportant relative to the clout this app is supposed to have on the world stage - at least that's something I've read here.
But I'm still not sure I'm with this. I think there's gotta be either a better way or more material proof that they gotta divest from the US.
I know the other day there was some news about lobbyists from the Chinese govt (and not from TikTok independently) coming to try to argue against this bill, and I'd be interested in hearing about that relationship and what it means relative to this bill. I want to believe that the allegedly small percentage of US users means that they don't care, and that US influence/money is unimportant relative to the clout this app is supposed to have on the world stage - at least that's something I've read here.
But I'm still not sure I'm with this. I think there's gotta be either a better way or more material proof that they gotta divest from the US.
Nah I bet they sell.
Clever timing too, by the way. Ensure any political fallout happens after the election.
The idea that people don't care that it's being banned because it's bad for Israeli messaging is bonkers to me.
Like there's, not five American based social media companies where you find the exact same pro-Palestine, anti-genocide stance?
I fucking swear. TikTok. Tik god damn tok. Abortion? Nah. LGBTQ right? Nah a working fucking government? Nah. TikTok. If that's what it takes. Fuck those dumb kids.
I already want nothing do with people who voted from Trump. Fuck those dumb kids.
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This, not a smart move by him at all, couldn't this wait until after the elections?
Another speedrun attempt at alienating young voters, and in an election year. They literally never learn.
Doubt they will. They've said they won't.
Except there isn't to the extent that you can find it on TikTok. American social media companies are actively censoring anything to do with the Palestinian genocide.
It's bonkers to me that the US government is banning an app because Biden's favorite ally can't hide their genocide.
What about fuck the politicians that are doing things their constituents don't want?