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House Dems will vote on a resolution in response to Ilhan Omar’s Israel comments
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Yeah there's no spin to this, the Democrats fucked up and they fucked up HARD.
I'm gonna post up a new thread in a sec w/ the voting updates in large part because of how bad a lot of the articles on this are. NBC's is pretty good.
This is exactly what it is.
Wow. Democrats are poised to come out of this whole thing better off than they were if it never happened.
Truly stunning turn of events.
(my apologies for the joke, but I told you)
Said it before and I'll say it again. Everyone got out of this clean except for the scapegoat. The campaign against her is going to not just be about harassment and threats anymore.
The Dems don't want her and are throwing her into the water as chum. And motherfuckers are ready to take that Black Muslim bait.
The Dems don't want her and are throwing her into the water as chum. And motherfuckers are ready to take that Black Muslim bait.
Ok.Wow. Democrats are poised to come out of this whole thing better off than they were if it never happened.
Truly stunning turn of events.
(my apologies for the joke, but I told you)
Yup this is a disgusting ass framing. The GOP shit themselves surely but no one will care because the story is now about how they came together in a moment of unity to denounce Omar and her "allegedly anti semitic" comments.
Pelosi tha 5D chess kweeen tho
I care less about "the story" and more about how the Democratic Party treated a black Muslim woman. That you think the story is more important than that is scary.
They won't. This is on her record to discredit her forever.
Yeah, I didn't say anything at all like you just described, and saying otherwise is just incredibly uncool.
Yeah, they just don't want her, but I hope if she sticks around we get elect some people in the House or Congress as a whole eventually that will have the temerity to stick up for her.
I wrote a much longer post to you on the last page in case you think this joke post was the only thing I was able to contribute with.
Regardless, the Washington Post, ERA's most trusted news source apparently, just covered the vote the exact same way that I predicted. Racism by white people don't matter to our media and society. The only thing that matters is putting black/Muslim/women speaking up against the oligarchy and our settler colonial brotherhood with Israel in their place.
It's delusional to read the bill as some sort of victory, I'm sorry to say.
did you say a word at any point prior to this vote defending Omar against Democratic leadership?
edit: I looked and the answer is no. Huh, wonder why!
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Your post comes off as being more concerned with how all of this is perceived and not the actual shit that went down.
I really do think a lot of ordinary liberals will be radicalized against the Israel lobby and the Democratic establishment after seeing how they tried to destroy a black Muslim woman. Good for the left, bad for the party's status quo and its apologists.
The damage is already done. The house GOP stuff is body text material, not going to remove the conception of the average voter who will. in their reactionary ignorance. only remember the the democrats are supporting antisemitism.
Was I talking about Western countries considering the USA is one? Western countries are terribly racist. Well known. But also like to proclaim themselves as secular. When it's anything but.
But we are not supposed to talk about the American Media's pro-Israel bias - that's anti-semitic.
this entire-ass situation is one of the most frustrating political situations i've observed. weve been telling yall fuck establishment democrats, fuck em. primary these dickheads
there are literally no "good faith actors" arrayed against her, full stop. she is being attacked on extremely dubious grounds because she is perceived as being easy to victimize. antisemitism is a serious issue, and crying wolf in order to attack political foes takes away from that
Imagine if the Democrats put in as much as effort in fighting for universal healthcare or prison & police reform or drastic environmental policies or cutting down bloated military expenditures as they are about throwing Omar under the bus over a manufactured controversy.
I mostly agree with you, but it's less important whether the allegations are in good faith or not (because I can say firsthand that a non-trivial number of my fellow Jews are unfortunately but genuinely perceiving Omar's comments as antisemitic) than it is whether they're true (they aren't) or to what ends they're being used politically (to attack a black Muslim woman and enforce ideological conformity on Israel)
so regardless of the motivation behind the allegations, we can agree that treating them as valid and legitimate is bad
The title says it all. "Nancy Pelosi and these unnamed new voices that we'll prop up to improve our branding, but throw under the bus as soon as they speak out against our conservative ideology"
I don't care what kind of backfire republicans ending up doing to themselves because I know they are disgusting pieces of shit. Fuck Pelosi for using a black woman as a prop when it suited her
Brought this up at work, and one of my coworkers got mad as hell and Almost called me a Nazi for agreeing with Ilhan Omar.
Why are people so fucking stupid? I'm an American. I don't swear allegiance to the Israeli government and am allowed to criticize them or any government I see fit to. His argument - "We shouldn't throw our allies under the bus like that!" - oh, like Trumps done with Tarifs and our UN partners? He storms off with his hands in the air 🖕
Why are people so fucking stupid? I'm an American. I don't swear allegiance to the Israeli government and am allowed to criticize them or any government I see fit to. His argument - "We shouldn't throw our allies under the bus like that!" - oh, like Trumps done with Tarifs and our UN partners? He storms off with his hands in the air 🖕
You think the only time I speak is via posts on an Internet forum?
My post was about the political narrative. You injected a ton of meaning into it that simply was not there.
Seriously, there are enough enemies out there. Stop trying to create more.
She's gonna become America's own Jeremy Corbyn. It'll be impossible to report on any story on her without bringing up antisemitism. Expect a ton of shitty Op Eds about how Omar is gonna make people vote for Trump
I see people bringing up WaPo. Funny that, they were talked about in The Lobby (timestamped link below and I'll try to paraphrase below) that everyone is ignoring.
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Moran: "There was a conservative rabbi in my district who was assigned to me I assume by AIPAC.
And he warned me that if I voiced my views about the Israeli lobby then my career would be over and then he implied it would be done through the Post.
And sure enough, the Washington Post brutally ganged up. *see a bunch of the same headlines posted here*|
Undercover: So what are the main outlets that TIP work with?
David Ochs (lobbyist): Washington Post is the biggest one. Yeah, it's actually that building there *points*
Narrator: Moran claims that the WaPo editorial board has a close relationship with AIPAC.
Moran: The principle editoral board of the Post itself has been a very effective instrument because they've been able to maintain their credibility - and it's a great paper in every other way - but because they have such credibility they are extremely effective.
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Shame shame shame on WaPo. I agree with Moran that it's usually a great paper, but fucking shame on them when it comes to all things Israel.
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Moran: "There was a conservative rabbi in my district who was assigned to me I assume by AIPAC.
And he warned me that if I voiced my views about the Israeli lobby then my career would be over and then he implied it would be done through the Post.
And sure enough, the Washington Post brutally ganged up. *see a bunch of the same headlines posted here*|
Undercover: So what are the main outlets that TIP work with?
David Ochs (lobbyist): Washington Post is the biggest one. Yeah, it's actually that building there *points*
Narrator: Moran claims that the WaPo editorial board has a close relationship with AIPAC.
Moran: The principle editoral board of the Post itself has been a very effective instrument because they've been able to maintain their credibility - and it's a great paper in every other way - but because they have such credibility they are extremely effective.
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Shame shame shame on WaPo. I agree with Moran that it's usually a great paper, but fucking shame on them when it comes to all things Israel.
There will still be lots of left-leaning muslims who won't vote for the democrats because of this.Wow. Democrats are poised to come out of this whole thing better off than they were if it never happened.
Truly stunning turn of events.
(my apologies for the joke, but I told you)
also, in the coming years, there is totally going to be an exodus to the GOP of liberal Zionist Jews - just a minority of them, but those who do will be pretty vocal about it - whose dedication to ethnonationalism proves stronger than their "progressive" values, and I'm honestly looking forward to it. the Democrats will be far better off without them
Aside from the one troll in the comments, people are reacting quite against Boot to this article, which when you read it you'll see just how easily it comes apart.
Please continue the discussion here: https://www.resetera.com/threads/ho...ts-voted-yes-w-23-gop-nos-and-1-gop-p.104068/
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