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House Intelligence committee has released the declassified whistleblower complaint regarding Trump’s phone call
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I hate how much we allow our politicians to not answer questions. It should be a fundamental aspect of a good elected representative to be willing to answer a question. Maybe not in any context all the time but I just want one of them to answer to the fact that the transcript was not a "nothing burger" but that it plainly outlines the intent to gain information on a political opponent from a foreign entity, an allegation Trump spent a year and a half pretending to be preposterous.
Frustrating.
Frustrating.
Of course, at this point in his admin, Trump has appointed or hired, like, all of the people involved in this.
This is why I roll my eyes whenever people say impeachment will "energize" Trumpers.
Guess what, people? THEY ARE ALREADY ENERGIZED. They have been since 2016. Some of them were so energized they fucking MURDERED people...
Why does it have to be this way? Why can't "leaders" forget these fucking teams and just do the right thing?
Lol at the "but it's second-hand info" defense. You have to be a real dumb piece to shit to think that's some kind of iron-clad defense when Trump himself corroborated the main portion of the complaint and the witnesses will inevitably be interviewed/testify.
There is no credible defense of these actions, so expect Trump supporters and Fox to go extra hard on the conspiracy theories. Advertisers need to grow a pair and pull their ad buys from the Fox News opinion shows. They can't just wait for Fucker, Handy, and Nazi Blondie to make vacation-earning comments about minorities. They need to drop these ball-washing traitors ASAP.
There is no credible defense of these actions, so expect Trump supporters and Fox to go extra hard on the conspiracy theories. Advertisers need to grow a pair and pull their ad buys from the Fox News opinion shows. They can't just wait for Fucker, Handy, and Nazi Blondie to make vacation-earning comments about minorities. They need to drop these ball-washing traitors ASAP.
They're just trying to bully people into looking the other way.
These people (Social media posters) are the same people who are going to be crying foul when he's arrested and locked behind prison bars. It's all a witch hunt, fake evidence, and a deep state conspiracy.
Pay no mind to these fools as we know already they are just a vocal minority.
Is there a good resource for seeing who's buying ads on Fox right now?
does Trump make it a habit of deleting tweets? seems out of the ordinary for him but then I'm not on Twitter.
The only time I've ever seen him delete a tweet is to fix a spelling error. I can't remember any other time he's deleted something and not retweeted it corrected. I asked about this earlier and was told only the POTUS Twitter account had to keep tweets up, but I'm almost sure that's wrong and his personal account is meant to be "from the office of the president of the united states" as well but I can't find any confirmation of it
It was an all-caps screaming rant about how the Democrats are trying to destroy the entire Republican party, lemme see if I can find a screen grab of it
Edit: cameron bless you for putting the twitter text under the tweet
"THE DEMOCRATS ARE TRYING TO DESTROY THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND ALL THAT IT STANDS FOR. STICK TOGETHER, PLAY THEIR GAME, AND FIGHT HARD REPUBLICANS. OUR COUNTRY IS AT STAKE!"
I know you put it in quotes, but the problem isn't leaders generally. It's the GOP. I just want to underline it.
I think we can safely ignore anything he says or tweets for a long while.
He's not going to resign, but he's a lame duck until 2020.
Impeachment by the house is inevitable at this point. It's a historical black mark that will never be removed.
Of course he isn't going to resign
His ego won't allow it or he'd only resign IF he can frame it as a "win"
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John Roberts @johnrobertsFox
Never mind.....photo op with Sheriffs.....South Lawn, not Oval....
5:12 PM - Sep 26, 2019
Mark Knoller @markknoller
Sheriffs present @POTUS with plaque honoring his "unwavering efforts to stop illegal immigration." Pres calls it "an important award."
5:32 PM - Sep 26, 2019
Never mind.....photo op with Sheriffs.....South Lawn, not Oval....
5:12 PM - Sep 26, 2019
Mark Knoller @markknoller
Sheriffs present @POTUS with plaque honoring his "unwavering efforts to stop illegal immigration." Pres calls it "an important award."
5:32 PM - Sep 26, 2019
How many of these cornpone Roscoe P. Coltrane-ass motherfuckers are going to have skeletons in their closet like that last batch that did this?
The loud ones are displayign their self-aware cognitive dissonance and insecurity more than normal.
Confidense is quiet, unconfidence loud, etc.
Every 2020 class Senator, especially McSally, Gardner, Ernst, Perdue, Tillis, Cornyn, and Collins needs to be on blast by every reporter. I want them running for elevators for the rest of their time in public service.
The loud ones are displayign their self-aware cognitive dissonance and insecurity more than normal.
Confidense is quiet, unconfidence loud, etc.
Every 2020 class Senator, especially McSally, Gardner, Ernst, Perdue, Tillis, Cornyn, and Collins needs to be on blast by every reporter. I want them running for elevators for the rest of their time in public service.
It would be a really stupid idea to ignore anything he says or tweets since he literally just incriminated himself with all of this and he can't stop to save his life lmao
He's always been his own worst enemy since he can't shut the fuck up. Let's see what else he lets slip when he's so stressed he can't even think straight anymore :D
Good news is good news, what's your problem? You're on a video game forum.
My hatred has been on full tilt since at least 2015. I feel robbed. ROBBED.
Oh for fucks sake the goddamn complaint is 9 pages roughly half a page was redacted for the public. I got a decent read out of it in 15 minutes. Fuck these people and their lame ass excuses.
To be fair, I rolled my eyes at the first two statements as well considering they aren't even really tangible things that effect you as a consumer.
That doesn't make any sense. A game has gone gold meaning it's done and will soon be available to purchase. Another game is getting footage released to help inform people about a potential future purchase. Both are things that affect a consumer - new media to consume and a physical object to buy and play. Should people not get excited when DVDs and trailers for anticipated movies come out?
Good news is good news. We gonna rewrite history and pretend we all totally knew Death Stranding would release on the PS4, let alone this year?
So a couple of things I've noticed.
Lutsenko, and his predecessor Shokin have both been roundly panned by Ukrainian and international community, so that's why both were fired.
Shokin is the guy that Trump accused VP Biden of pressuring to have axed to the benefit of his son Hunter Biden. Now here's Trump pressuring Zelensky to keep the guy that ostensibly was appointed to Biden's benefit, because he's tough on Biden.
So that's the narrative: It is inappropriate for a VP/POTUS to make recommendations w/r/t the Prosecutor General, buuuuut, "Biden's guy," is actually who Trump wants, and it's appropriate for Trump to make a recommendation w/r/t the Prosecutor General.
The other thing I have to comment on is the whistle blower having a really solid grasp on Ukraine. My grasp is a little better than most, simply because as an ethnic Ukrainian in Canada I have a personal interest in the goings on, so I know the broad strokes, and am familiar with the principle cast of characters, but this whistle-blower indeed does know the players, and knows their motivations and relationships, and thus, is able to draw inferences and connections on the issues presented. In short, this isn't the person who handles the China file all day, this is a person who follows Russia/Ukraine.
Finally, Giuliani is megafucked. He is all over this document. What is he doing? What clearances does he have? Who's he talking to? What's he saying? Who's paying him? Why is he doing what he's doing? It sounds like Giuliani is conducting high level diplomatic talks in complete secrecy without any oversight. My God, this is Nixonian.
edit: Death Stranding went Gold? Wow, 2019?! Sorry, that is big news ;)
Lutsenko, and his predecessor Shokin have both been roundly panned by Ukrainian and international community, so that's why both were fired.
Shokin is the guy that Trump accused VP Biden of pressuring to have axed to the benefit of his son Hunter Biden. Now here's Trump pressuring Zelensky to keep the guy that ostensibly was appointed to Biden's benefit, because he's tough on Biden.
So that's the narrative: It is inappropriate for a VP/POTUS to make recommendations w/r/t the Prosecutor General, buuuuut, "Biden's guy," is actually who Trump wants, and it's appropriate for Trump to make a recommendation w/r/t the Prosecutor General.
The other thing I have to comment on is the whistle blower having a really solid grasp on Ukraine. My grasp is a little better than most, simply because as an ethnic Ukrainian in Canada I have a personal interest in the goings on, so I know the broad strokes, and am familiar with the principle cast of characters, but this whistle-blower indeed does know the players, and knows their motivations and relationships, and thus, is able to draw inferences and connections on the issues presented. In short, this isn't the person who handles the China file all day, this is a person who follows Russia/Ukraine.
Finally, Giuliani is megafucked. He is all over this document. What is he doing? What clearances does he have? Who's he talking to? What's he saying? Who's paying him? Why is he doing what he's doing? It sounds like Giuliani is conducting high level diplomatic talks in complete secrecy without any oversight. My God, this is Nixonian.
edit: Death Stranding went Gold? Wow, 2019?! Sorry, that is big news ;)
He doesn't want everyone to know he's implicated in this too even though Trump already implicated him.
Correct. This is the one bullet Pence will not be taking for Trump.
He is keeping his ass quiet (while silently contemplating how he and his wife are going to decorate the White House for Christmas this year).
"I'm a stupid pos little bitch and I resign". Then he jumps out of the plane with no chute.
Ok. This right here is my Christmas present come early, baby. Don't need anything else after this!
GOP must know something is up or see the inevitable end to this all. Cruz is posturing like he's going to run again.
Yep they're going all in on conspiracy theories. Levin today was spouting a conspiracy that this is the act of the CIA going rogue launching a silent coup.
These people are fucking crazy
Hard to grasp being stupid enough to believe any of these people.
Most of the county's textbooks actually come from Texas though 😬
After the endless discussions I have read on here regarding Mueller and Trumps stupid antics I never really thought anything would come from those. However, this feels much different and I actually do think this will either cause him to leave office or lose the election.
The issue there, from a self-interest perspective, is that losing even a small percentage of the GOP Trump-loyalist base (who would be foaming at the mouth against the traitor RINOs who voted to oust him) would be equally fatal (if not more so).
Lol at all these rumors of Fox news might be turning against Trump.... bullshit.