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Lord Fagan

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Oct 27, 2017
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Oct 27, 2017
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Nunes is a traitorous cunt who is bought by Russians. I'm pretty sure this came out about his businesses years ago.

fucker should have been recused from this shit.
 

Deleted member 6056

Oct 25, 2017
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Hows it looking so far? Is there hope for the world?
 

Deleted member 6056

Oct 25, 2017
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He'll be impeached on a party-line vote (Dems plus Justin Amash) and, as was always probable, acquitted by the Senate.
So the all or nothing no compromise of modern politics from parties refusing to concede anything will force a stalemate and nothing will happen?

Welp. Cant say I'm shocked if it ends that way. Disappointed but not shocked.
 

julian

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Oct 27, 2017
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So the all or nothing no compromise of modern politics from parties refusing to concede anything will force a stalemate and nothing will happen?

Welp. Cant say I'm shocked if it ends that way. Disappointed but not shocked.
I wouldn't say that's how it ends. How it really ends won't be seen for some time. Elections next year and then seeing how executive power is reigned in or set free afterwards.
 

thefit

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Oct 25, 2017
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BTW this is only one of the impeachments inquiries, there are other investigations ongoing including the Mueller investigation and NY investigations into Trump too with multiple subpoenas heading to the Supreme Court. Dec 13 the SCOTUS will take up Trumps request to block his taxes and finances that't when they decide whether they'll consider it at all, that's a really big date because sneaked into that NY ruling they say that not only does he have to hand them over but that the the memo that says a president can't be investigated is bullshit with the lower courts actually agreeing.
 

Christian

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Oct 25, 2017
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White House already calling it a sham report and saying there's no evidence of wrongdoing. 😂
 

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Oct 25, 2017
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It was never going to go down any other way than this. The hope is that the impeachment and accompanying trial damages his brand enough to cost him the election next year.
It takes not a majority but a 2/3rds super majority to impeach in the Senate apparently. We could see a majority and hes still acquitted and potentially reelected.

This is ridiculous. Hell be acquitted not based on innocence or guilt but based on what a conviction would do to a brand.
 

dabig2

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Oct 29, 2017
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Hopefully the judiciary committee takes midnight run Nunes to fucking task, along with Sondland and Volker and Morrison - the 3 biggest liars and self-serving pieces of shit the House committees were able to interview.

If Pelosi or other moderate Dems want them to rush this thing or focus only on the 7/25 call without any context, I hope they tell these moderates and centrists to fuck off and to remember their sworn constitutional oaths. Our government is infested with traitors and grifters.

It was never going to go down any other way than this. The hope is that the impeachment and accompanying trial damages his brand enough to cost him the election next year.

Basically this:

We're tired of the argument that impeachment is useless because the senate will acquit. Acquittal of @realDonaldTrump in 2020 by Moscow Mitch et al. may happen, but will have the same credibility as an all white jury acquitting a Mississippi Klansman in 1965. Voters know that.
 

Sho_Nuff82

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Nov 14, 2017
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Nunes being in the thick of it with Rudy, Solomon, and Parnas while being the ranking head of GOP House Intelligence is probably an unprecedented conflict of interest for a congressional committee, let alone during an impeachment investigation. That he did not disclose any of this should be career-ending.
 

boxter432

The Fallen
Oct 28, 2017
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Hopefully the judiciary committee takes midnight run Nunes to fucking task, along with Sondland and Volker and Morrison - the 3 biggest liars and self-serving pieces of shit the House committees were able to interview.

If Pelosi or other moderate Dems want them to rush this thing or focus only on the 7/25 call without any context, I hope they tell these moderates and centrists to fuck off and to remember their sworn constitutional oaths. Our government is infested with traitors and grifters.



Basically this:

but do voters really know that?
 

Allard

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Oct 25, 2017
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Nunes being in the thick of it with Rudy, Solomon, and Parnas while being the ranking head of GOP House Intelligence is probably an unprecedented conflict of interest for a congressional committee, let alone during an impeachment investigation. That he did not disclose any of this should be career-ending.

Not just that but its particularly problematic being he was the former chair of the intelligence comittee and ranking member after dems took over Congress. He is one of the gang of 8 that gets briefed on matters of national security and classifed information, what the hell is he doing talking with people like this in ANY capacity given his position much less keeping it secret.
 

Christian

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Oct 25, 2017
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Nunes being in the thick of it with Rudy, Solomon, and Parnas while being the ranking head of GOP House Intelligence is probably an unprecedented conflict of interest for a congressional committee, let alone during an impeachment investigation. That he did not disclose any of this should be career-ending.

Hey, remember when Duncan Hunter was accused of stealing over $200,000 from his campaign to fund personal purchases and vacations, blamed it on his wife/campaign manager, then got re-elected in California? He just plead guilty to it all today! He's facing up to five years in prison! And he still hasn't resigned!
 

Wrestleman

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Oct 25, 2017
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Hey, remember when Duncan Hunter was accused of stealing over $200,000 from his campaign to fund personal purchases and vacations, blamed it on his wife/campaign manager, then got re-elected in California? He just plead guilty to it all today! He's facing up to five years in prison! And he still hasn't resigned!

He's going to, apparently.
 

UberTag

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
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Hey, remember when Duncan Hunter was accused of stealing over $200,000 from his campaign to fund personal purchases and vacations, blamed it on his wife/campaign manager, then got re-elected in California? He just plead guilty to it all today! He's facing up to five years in prison! And he still hasn't resigned!
So what are we looking at here? Slap on the wrist reduced sentence and fine, runs again and wins re-election?
 

FreezePeach

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Oct 25, 2017
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Hey, remember when Duncan Hunter was accused of stealing over $200,000 from his campaign to fund personal purchases and vacations, blamed it on his wife/campaign manager, then got re-elected in California? He just plead guilty to it all today! He's facing up to five years in prison! And he still hasn't resigned!
Yeah, about that, turns out the DoJ is going very light on him with recommendations in sentencing. Barr and Trump doing work for a buddy there.
 

Anarion07

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Oct 28, 2017
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What does voting it out mean? Sending it to Senate? Then what are the judiciary hearings for. I need a breakdown of what's to come please
 

Blackjaw

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Nov 21, 2017
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Ridiculous that he will be impeached by the House but can still run for president in 2020.
 

Landy828

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Oct 26, 2017
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" Nevertheless, there remain unanswered questions, and our investigation must continue, even as we transmit our report to the Judiciary Committee. Given the proximate threat of further presidential attempts to solicit foreign interference in our next election, we cannot wait to make a referral until our efforts to obtain additional testimony and documents wind their way through the courts. The evidence of the President's misconduct is overwhelming, and so too is the evidence of his obstruction of Congress. Indeed, it would be hard to imagine a stronger or more complete case of obstruction than that demonstrated by the President since the inquiry began. "

Glad to see this in the report.
 

Wrestleman

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Oct 25, 2017
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Is a congressman impeachable?

These are paraphrased quotes because I was listening live, but Schiff just said on a press conference that he's "reserving comment on Ranking Member Nunes' activity" but that it's "deeply concerning that it appears members of Congress may be complicit in the President's political schemes. I won't state that as an unequivocal fact until there is more evidence, and our focus is on the President's wrongdoing but it may be another body of Congress's responsibility to look into those allegations against members of Congress."

Sounded like the intent is to take action against Nunes from another angle.
 

Deleted member 17092

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Oct 27, 2017
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Ridiculous that he will be impeached by the House but can still run for president in 2020.

that actually wouldn't be a bad constitutional amendment. Although then you probably would get every single republican house majority impeaching a dem president to not have to run against an incumbent. That could backfire though.

it does increase the check on the president though. Like hey if you fuck up badly enough yeah you can finish out your term but that's it.
 

FreezePeach

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Oct 25, 2017
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" Nevertheless, there remain unanswered questions, and our investigation must continue, even as we transmit our report to the Judiciary Committee. Given the proximate threat of further presidential attempts to solicit foreign interference in our next election, we cannot wait to make a referral until our efforts to obtain additional testimony and documents wind their way through the courts. The evidence of the President's misconduct is overwhelming, and so too is the evidence of his obstruction of Congress. Indeed, it would be hard to imagine a stronger or more complete case of obstruction than that demonstrated by the President since the inquiry began. "

Glad to see this in the report.
He also said on Maddow last night that they are still investigating further connections and sending more subpoenas despite drafting articles already.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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What does voting it out mean? Sending it to Senate? Then what are the judiciary hearings for. I need a breakdown of what's to come please

House judiciary will have hearings starting this week. Articles of impeachment will be drafted/voted on, presumably by year's end. House will vote to impeach Trump on a party line vote (simple majority is all that is needed in the house). Then it will be handed to the senate for trial, where McConnell will see to it that the entire process is as much of a sham as possible, John Roberts will preside as judge over this sham trial, and things will ultimately end with Trump's acquittal some time early next year. By then, we're rockin' and rollin' into primary season...
 

thefit

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Oct 25, 2017
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2-3 Articles are possible according to people in the know including obstruction of justice in regards to the Mueller investigation. That puts that back in play in the senate trial.
 

Christian

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Oct 25, 2017
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Yeah, about that, turns out the DoJ is going very light on him with recommendations in sentencing. Barr and Trump doing work for a buddy there.

Yeah, they're only asking for 14 months. Guy should be barred from ever holding a position in government again, on top of it. I mean, it should go without saying that he should never actually be elected by anyone again, but this is America, so I really wouldn't be shocked if he ran and won again. Let's just make that impossible.
 

Anarion07

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Oct 28, 2017
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House judiciary will have hearings starting this week. Articles of impeachment will be drafted/voted on, presumably by year's end. House will vote to impeach Trump on a party line vote (simple majority is all that is needed in the house). Then it will be handed to the senate for trial, where McConnell will see to it that the entire process is as much of a sham as possible, John Roberts will preside as judge over this sham trial, and things will ultimately end with Trump's acquittal some time early next year. By then, we're rockin' and rollin' into primary season...
Thanks! So what are they voting on now as stated in the thread title?
 

skeptem

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Oct 25, 2017
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The fact that this exists in so much detail and he still has support is disappointing, though at this point not surprising.
 

Allard

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Oct 25, 2017
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Thanks! So what are they voting on now as stated in the thread title?

They voted on on sending the summary/recommendations to the judiciary committee. Its considered the 'official' report of the house Intel committee and other committees by rule of majority vote. A minority report was already released earlier this week I think.
 

Anarion07

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Oct 28, 2017
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They voted on on sending the summary/recommendations to the judiciary committee. Its considered the 'official' report of the house Intel committee and other committees by rule of majority vote. A minority report was already released earlier this week I think.
Ohhh now I get it thanks. The minority report trump was celebrating
 
OP
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Shard Shinjuku
Oct 25, 2017
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Tampa
These are paraphrased quotes because I was listening live, but Schiff just said on a press conference that he's "reserving comment on Ranking Member Nunes' activity" but that it's "deeply concerning that it appears members of Congress may be complicit in the President's political schemes. I won't state that as an unequivocal fact until there is more evidence, and our focus is on the President's wrongdoing but it may be another body of Congress's responsibility to look into those allegations against members of Congress."

Sounded like the intent is to take action against Nunes from another angle.

Basically this is a job for the House Ethics Committee.