I guess that's fair, but it doesn't get more "lazy anti-trump Boomer humor thinking it's cutting edge comedy" than Maher
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How ‘Liberal’ Late-Night Talk Shows Became a Comedy Sinkhole
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Seth isn't actually funny while Maher is hit or miss. At least he can make me laugh with some of his jokes. His specials are mediocre but somehow his jokes on the show land pretty well at times. Seth is like an MCU movie, he's fine.
I basically just watch Closer Look on Seth Meyer's show and Last Week Tonight
I agree Colbert is kinda insufferable now but if you like it, cool
I agree Colbert is kinda insufferable now but if you like it, cool
Maher's show is weekly and explicitly political. It obvs has a lot of the issues discussed in the article but it's not quite the same category
you laugh at Bill Maher jokes...
do you laugh at the ones where he says Donald Trump makes him feel like he missed his morning coffee (and had orange juice! instead) or the ones where he says all Muslims are violent
I used to watch Craig Ferguson every night, nothing today even comes close. Seriously, check out his interview with Robin Williams. Today's late night is hot stanky garbage.
Do the posters saying "I miss Craig Ferguson" not realize that he'd probably be talking about Trump more than anyone?
Maybe the author forgets how desperately, painfully unfunny Leno was, or that Letterman fell off his game years before he actually retired. Colbert and Kimmel and Meyers are an improvement in some ways and in others they're at least not any worse.
Probably not, seeing how they miss blissful ignorance more than anything else.
It's not an official upload, so holding them accountable for what the uploader chose as the thumbnail is pretty dumb.
They also said her show and other late night shows were unfunny. Was her piece on catholic hospitals funny?
The shows are just so outrageously repetitive. Whether show to show or episode to episodes it's the same jokes over and over.
All I'm gonna say was late night talk shows were waaaaaaaay worse than what's happening now with the exception of Conan O'Brien.
Maybe I just need to watch it, but the whole critique is that these shows are just repeating the same Daily Show style jokes from a decade ago in between just reading the news. It's repetitive, easy, and played out. There's very little craft, and these shows feel cookie cutter because there are a lot of them with the same schtick rather than just two with Stewart and Colbert back in the day.
At least people are getting the news through them, but I don't find them funny.
Again, that doesn't apply to Samantha Bee for the most part.
It's not comparable because the news cycles of the pre-Trump era (especially political news cycles) are completely different than the Trump-dominated news we see today, and it's specifically the fact that no one has figured out (or cares to try) adapting topical comedy to the Trump era that makes all these shows horrendous.
I'm glad you like her show.
Still not sure what you were originally implying about Chapo. Misogyny?
I've never gotten that vibe from any of their shows, but okay
And I mean, I'd probably listen to something before abjectly dismissing it off-hand, personally.
She's fucking awful. Remember her Glenn Beck coming together shit? Chapo is correct on this and actually one of the few funny political podcasts/shows around.
I agree with you. Both the writer of the article and a lot of people in this thread probably don't even see much late night talk shows themselves or only some viral Trump stuff.
Yeah, a lot of the comedy is shit, and I don't see them every day, because there are so many and I get tired of Trump or politics, but it's also true that it's hard to fill an hour of biting political commentary. And Colbert has actually talked more about other stuff recently, and has definetly called out Trump's white supremacy and horrible politics. It's been years since his jokes were only "Cheeto in chief" type jokes.
It's not for nothing that his monologue constantly gets more than a millions views each night on YouTube.
It's a weird article, to say the least.
I used to watch way more, now I barely do.
Some thoughts:
- Samantha Bee is very preachy, but atleast she goes hard
- Trevor Noah has the best correspondents and a lot of guests you don't see anywhere else
- Seth Meyers has "A Closer Look", it's good because it's condensed, rest mostly meh
- John Oliver needs better joke writers, could be so much better
- Conan got bad advice with his new studio, but the stuff he's doing more now is what he's best at
- Colbert is just awful. I think I can read the title of the video and know half of the jokes he's about to make. Weirdest thing is how much he sucks at interviewing people. He was good at that at some point.
Some thoughts:
- Samantha Bee is very preachy, but atleast she goes hard
- Trevor Noah has the best correspondents and a lot of guests you don't see anywhere else
- Seth Meyers has "A Closer Look", it's good because it's condensed, rest mostly meh
- John Oliver needs better joke writers, could be so much better
- Conan got bad advice with his new studio, but the stuff he's doing more now is what he's best at
- Colbert is just awful. I think I can read the title of the video and know half of the jokes he's about to make. Weirdest thing is how much he sucks at interviewing people. He was good at that at some point.
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This all goes back to the root of problem: Turning politics into entertainment. There used to be a real separation between the two that made sense considering how making jokes about political issues undermines the seriousness of the situation.
Conflating politics and entertainment is a big reason why the country is suck a mess. Just like diehard fans of Star Wars or Harry Potter, people become fans of a political story and not only define themselves by their fandom but spew vitriol at those who disagree.
So, Late Shows aren't funny but they shouldn't be talking about politics anyway.
Conflating politics and entertainment is a big reason why the country is suck a mess. Just like diehard fans of Star Wars or Harry Potter, people become fans of a political story and not only define themselves by their fandom but spew vitriol at those who disagree.
So, Late Shows aren't funny but they shouldn't be talking about politics anyway.
I haven't watched. What point are you making? If it's that the video isn't funny, great. He does around 200+ shows a year. Not every bit will be a winner.
Comedy is pretty much dead at this point. Everyone has already seen the jokes on Facebook or Twitter. I'm not sure how the genre as a whole adapts.
Sitcoms and comedy films are pretty much dead in the water too. It sucks, but that's the reality now.
Sitcoms and comedy films are pretty much dead in the water too. It sucks, but that's the reality now.
Gotta love dudes who say and do basic shit and call others "normies" at the same time.
Deep dive segments are the only late night content I can stomach anymore, so I really only pay attention to John Oliver and Hasan Minhaj.
This article/thread has been depressing but it's good to hear Hasan Minhaj landed on his feet at least, especially after Jordan Klepper, another pretty good modern correspondent, flamed out big time with his own show
Agree with all of this. Also Sam Bee is amazing as well. I usually make an effort to watch Seth and Samantha, but Colbert and Oliver only when I can.
We get it. You don't like current Colbert. You aren't being clever or cutting by replying to every post liking/defending his show with an example of (what you think is) a bad joke. Might as well just start posting "orange man bad" memes at that point.
Only Maher and Oliver have been able to get a laugh out of me in recent years when I see their clips.
And both are pretty hit and miss (Maher can be wildly out of touch and Oliver can be so weird/esoteric I glaze over). The network nightime hosts dont really do much for me, not sure I can pinpoint why. Maybe I just like slightly more over the top personalities.
I haven't checked back with Conan in a while. Wonder if he's still funny.
And both are pretty hit and miss (Maher can be wildly out of touch and Oliver can be so weird/esoteric I glaze over). The network nightime hosts dont really do much for me, not sure I can pinpoint why. Maybe I just like slightly more over the top personalities.
I haven't checked back with Conan in a while. Wonder if he's still funny.
When they say "normies" they mean not political junkies like them. And like everything chapo it's layered in irony so thick it could withstand an ICBM.
I know what they mean, I say the content doesn't match. If you think that's super clever then more power to you
Calling your too big pub trivia team "Can you believe Kim Kardashian met the president in the white house?" is a pretty aggressively normie thing to do.
I dunno where you got I think it's super clever, was merely explaining how they use a term. Please don't put bullshit into my mouth that I didn't say.
I'd kill SNL and every late night tv show to get Mad tv to come back
Closet?
Closet?
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