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Just today. Dead Cells Switch outselling PS4 4:1
https://www.resetera.com/threads/de...switch-is-outselling-the-ps4-by-4-to-1.66702/
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How are Indie games actually performing on Switch? Sales reports so far
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Just today. Dead Cells Switch outselling PS4 4:1
https://www.resetera.com/threads/de...switch-is-outselling-the-ps4-by-4-to-1.66702/
Related to indie game performance, I'd like to highlight Nintendo's indie game coverage efforts in Japan: Indie World. Unlike Nindies (NA) and Indie Highlights (EU), which cover games mainly concerned with games coming to the Western market as a whole, Indie World specifically highlights indie games coming to the Japanese eShop, including both indie Japanese games and many games from Western developers being localized, hence being called World. The first showcase was launched on May 11th this year, hosted by Soejima and Boku, an official Nintendo duo akin to the Nintendo Minute duo on the American Nintendo channel.
It's similar to how the Western Indie showcases operate, except with two hosts. One neat part is at around the 14 minute mark, after showing off Dead Cells, they take a moment to explain the term "Rogue-like," since I don't think it's as much of a household term in Japan as it is in the West. They start the explanation by literally showing gameplay of the original Rogue from the 1980's. After that, they highlight the Mystery Dungeon franchise, which is a modern Japanese video game series that actually plays similarly to Rogue that most Japanese gaming folk are probably familiar with. They then show off some Western indies with Rogue-like elements like Enter the Gungeon and Crypt of the Necrodancer.
On the official Indie World section of the Japanese Nintendo site, there's a list of indies with a small message of recommendation from either of the two hosts. For example, the one for Undertale more or less says "I want you to play it without knowing anything!" The Indie World section also has several articles written by the duo talking about indie games, usually having small interviews/chats with the developers/producers of the games. The most recent article was published on August 29th, which is the first part of an Undertale developer interview with Toby Fox.
Anyway, I wrote all this to illustrate the stuff Nintendo is putting into the Japanese indie gaming scene, trying to give indie games more exposure to the Japanese market. It's possible this all also plays a factor to how well indie games are selling overall.
Indie World: https://www.nintendo.co.jp/software/feature/indieworld/
It's similar to how the Western Indie showcases operate, except with two hosts. One neat part is at around the 14 minute mark, after showing off Dead Cells, they take a moment to explain the term "Rogue-like," since I don't think it's as much of a household term in Japan as it is in the West. They start the explanation by literally showing gameplay of the original Rogue from the 1980's. After that, they highlight the Mystery Dungeon franchise, which is a modern Japanese video game series that actually plays similarly to Rogue that most Japanese gaming folk are probably familiar with. They then show off some Western indies with Rogue-like elements like Enter the Gungeon and Crypt of the Necrodancer.
On the official Indie World section of the Japanese Nintendo site, there's a list of indies with a small message of recommendation from either of the two hosts. For example, the one for Undertale more or less says "I want you to play it without knowing anything!" The Indie World section also has several articles written by the duo talking about indie games, usually having small interviews/chats with the developers/producers of the games. The most recent article was published on August 29th, which is the first part of an Undertale developer interview with Toby Fox.
Anyway, I wrote all this to illustrate the stuff Nintendo is putting into the Japanese indie gaming scene, trying to give indie games more exposure to the Japanese market. It's possible this all also plays a factor to how well indie games are selling overall.
Indie World: https://www.nintendo.co.jp/software/feature/indieworld/
Despite being published by Sega, Sonic Team had nothing to do with its development. The "developers" of Sonic Mania literally comprise of members of the Sonic fangame and ROM hacking community, which is why many people consider the game indie.
Worth having a look at their story. I went to a talk from one of the devs last year about the process and the relationship with SEGA and Sonic Team - super interesting stuff!
Comic Star Heroine is currently in the "Discover" section in the French eshop. It is at the top of the page and labelled as a "The best from clasic and modern RPGs".
Good to hear that the words exchanged here didn't affect the promotion of the game on the eshop.
Good to hear that the words exchanged here didn't affect the promotion of the game on the eshop.
I was about to post it, it has been on the discover section on that spot of EU eshop for the past 3-4 days
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Wandersong >3x Steam on Switch
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/20...tperformed_steam_sales_by_nearly_three_to_one
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/20...tperformed_steam_sales_by_nearly_three_to_one
At this point I'll be surprised if a small game does better on Steam.
Few weeks ago there was PAX Australia, there was a panel called "This Year's Indie Game-Changer" were some indie developer shared their stories of their success on Switch
TL;DW:
Ash Ringrose from SMG Studio (Death Squared):
"I think we said we sold more on Switch in three days than we sold on all the other platforms combined over like six months. Maybe for us we've sold ten times as many copies on Switch than we have on each platform. We've got like a long tail, or a thicker tail. So we sell more per day on Switch than we'd sell on Steam in a week and still after like 400 days of being out. So for us, those numbers really help kind of help long term revenue for us. But I would say compared to other platforms, we sold really badly on the other platforms, so it did well on Switch.
We've had other people who have done really well on iOS and haven't done as well. It does depend on the game. It's not just put it on Switch and you've got an instant hit. I think the audience now still wants a good game. I think for us we got in quite early, we were quite lucky. But even the sales now we're quite happy with, so it's quite a healthy platform if you're quite noisy about your game as well."
Henrik Pettersson from The Voxel Agents (The Gardens Between):
"I think 60% of our sales have been on Switch so far, which is tremendous. I think I attribute that a bit to Nintendo's help in terms of promoting the game and also that this new platform that people are really engaging in. I imagine that Steam sales are going to balance that a bit more, particularly with sales and things like that in the future. You have such a large audience there, but I'm also surprised by how well it's been going on Switch."
Joe Park from Harmonious Games (Putty Pals):
"With Putty Pals, we're kind of in a similar boat to Ash of SMG where we've only been out for about eight months on PC, and then when we shipped on Switch, on the first day, it outsold the previous eight months on PC. I think it's like eight times as many units on Switch as PC despite all of the sales. Yeah, financially Switch has been much more beneficial for us than PC has."
TL;DW:
Ash Ringrose from SMG Studio (Death Squared):
"I think we said we sold more on Switch in three days than we sold on all the other platforms combined over like six months. Maybe for us we've sold ten times as many copies on Switch than we have on each platform. We've got like a long tail, or a thicker tail. So we sell more per day on Switch than we'd sell on Steam in a week and still after like 400 days of being out. So for us, those numbers really help kind of help long term revenue for us. But I would say compared to other platforms, we sold really badly on the other platforms, so it did well on Switch.
We've had other people who have done really well on iOS and haven't done as well. It does depend on the game. It's not just put it on Switch and you've got an instant hit. I think the audience now still wants a good game. I think for us we got in quite early, we were quite lucky. But even the sales now we're quite happy with, so it's quite a healthy platform if you're quite noisy about your game as well."
Henrik Pettersson from The Voxel Agents (The Gardens Between):
"I think 60% of our sales have been on Switch so far, which is tremendous. I think I attribute that a bit to Nintendo's help in terms of promoting the game and also that this new platform that people are really engaging in. I imagine that Steam sales are going to balance that a bit more, particularly with sales and things like that in the future. You have such a large audience there, but I'm also surprised by how well it's been going on Switch."
Joe Park from Harmonious Games (Putty Pals):
"With Putty Pals, we're kind of in a similar boat to Ash of SMG where we've only been out for about eight months on PC, and then when we shipped on Switch, on the first day, it outsold the previous eight months on PC. I think it's like eight times as many units on Switch as PC despite all of the sales. Yeah, financially Switch has been much more beneficial for us than PC has."
Yeah I think we have overwhelming metrics pointing to Indies and smaller third party titles just killing it on Switch.
AA (if you go for that designation) games like Resident Evil Revelations 1-2 are rocking mad sales on Switch too. With Revelations 1 selling PS4/Xbone sales combined. Not only that, but it doubled their combined 9 month sales in only 3.
I honestly have no idea what the exact thing is that is making folks opt for the Switch version, but I couldn't be more thrilled.
I know for me, I've always just loved handheld gaming. So the Switch is pretty near handheld perfection. With console gaming on the go the likes of which we've never seen.
Sure the PSP and Vita promised us console gaming on the go, and very nearly delivered.
And we've got healthy alternatives like the Razor tablet and the GPD win, but they don't quite nail the experience Switch offers.
I'm not even a Nintendo IP fan, aside from Metroid and Luigi's mansion I rarely play Nintendo games. So I imagine it's even better for fans of the Big N.
AA (if you go for that designation) games like Resident Evil Revelations 1-2 are rocking mad sales on Switch too. With Revelations 1 selling PS4/Xbone sales combined. Not only that, but it doubled their combined 9 month sales in only 3.
I honestly have no idea what the exact thing is that is making folks opt for the Switch version, but I couldn't be more thrilled.
I know for me, I've always just loved handheld gaming. So the Switch is pretty near handheld perfection. With console gaming on the go the likes of which we've never seen.
Sure the PSP and Vita promised us console gaming on the go, and very nearly delivered.
And we've got healthy alternatives like the Razor tablet and the GPD win, but they don't quite nail the experience Switch offers.
I'm not even a Nintendo IP fan, aside from Metroid and Luigi's mansion I rarely play Nintendo games. So I imagine it's even better for fans of the Big N.
Dead Cells's dev aren't sure if Steam or Switch version is the best selling one, while confirming Steam version is over 1m
SMG (Death Squared) shared more data on r/NintendoSwitch
https://www.reddit.com/r/NintendoSw...18_switch_sales_in/?utm_source=reddit-android
https://www.reddit.com/r/NintendoSw...18_switch_sales_in/?utm_source=reddit-android
A few hours ago Ron Gilbert published the detailed sales split for Thimbleweed Park among all the platform:
Source:
https://grumpygamer.com/twp_sales
EDIT:
Sales as last quarter so until September 2018.
Source:
https://grumpygamer.com/twp_sales
EDIT:
Sales as last quarter so until September 2018.
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There's a really dynamic nerd geezers market on switch imo, something that wasn't as important on previous Nintendo platforms.
I am one of those
I am one of those
Nintendo has done an awesome job spotlighting indie games in nindies directs, news section in Switch menu, and keeping a high quality standart for indy publishers and devs.
Also many of those games don't need the "spectacle" factor, so the work better in handheld format, in my personal experience I enjoy indie retro games in a small screen, on TV my eyes hurts after a few minutes.
Also many of those games don't need the "spectacle" factor, so the work better in handheld format, in my personal experience I enjoy indie retro games in a small screen, on TV my eyes hurts after a few minutes.
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very impressive, i think most indie games being released recently probably have similar percentage. between the portability factor and nintendo heavily promoting indie games, it's understandable why they sell so much better on switch.A few hours ago Ron Gilbert published the detailed sales split for Thimbleweed Park among all the platform:
Source:
https://grumpygamer.com/twp_sales
EDIT:
Sales as last quarter so until September 2018.
I think this argument is still valid. On PSN and XBLive AAA games are regular on sale for >15€, therefore insie games have to compete with each other and additionally with AAA games. Switch AAA gamsses are usually 30€+. Its easier to justify a indie game purchase (at least for me) when AAA games cost 2-3 more...
And people wonder why Nintendo don't discount its games beyond 30%...
A few hours ago Ron Gilbert published the detailed sales split for Thimbleweed Park among all the platform:
Source:
https://grumpygamer.com/twp_sales
EDIT:
Sales as last quarter so until September 2018.
A lot has been said about indie sales and software sales in general on Switch so I'm not surprised it did well there. I am surprised that it tops PC since that is the place for point and click style games. I'm also shocked at how Xbox sales are higher than PS4. I would have thought it would be the opposite based on old userbase stereotypes. But come to think of it, Xbox live arcade on 360 pushed indie games hard and Microsoft also gave Cuphead a huge push. So maybe they are doing a better job than Sony. Nintendo is the clear indie leader on console at the moment though
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It's great to see another platform having success.