Personally I wouldn't trust THQ not to hand over my email to people on that website so while I admire the idea, I won't be joining in.
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How can THQ Nordic be held accountable for the 8chan AMA? (READ OP)
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They fired the GOG one, the Cyberpunk one was apparently a separate person and I don't think there's been any news that they've been fired.
Thank you for this direct link. Updated my posts with it, and the imgur link as well. Unfortunately Imgur adds spaces around periods in urls.
No problem. I wasn't aware of the feature either, so figured some would find it useful. I was prepared to go down the list of their games to ignore each one individually until I found the cog and wondered what it was. Made boycotting far more simple.
Yeah I really hope developers, and media light a fire under THQs collective ass to get an adequate reply.
The obvious response should have been to fire those involved. How you could be a PR person and think that was the right thing to do is kind of like hiring a flat-earther to teach geography to kids. I mean even convicted serial killers and murderers generally hate pedophiles as well, so I'm not sure what the angle was here.
With that being said, I won't be one to moralize to others how to handle the situation going forward. Everyone has their own definition of what supporting a company means and whether the actions of a few constitute the stance of an entire company. Or even how many people it takes to taint a company with their views. Everyone will have to make up their own mind what's the best course of action here. Boycott? That's fine. Don't think boycott is best course of action? I'll respect that as well.
I'll also remind everyone that most of you came from a forum with a convicted pedophile mod and even though he was canned the situation was handled very poorly. Other abuse accusations caused you to move over, but a pedo mod resulted in few leaving. I can also remember other forums referring to the other board as pedo enablers given that situation and even before it for some of that mods prior behavior. So, I wouldn't be too quick to cast the first stone. All the while you can still recognize what a horrible thing THQ did and hope those reponsible are rightly punished. Multiple different views on such a subject can be held without being in conflict with one another.
With that being said, I won't be one to moralize to others how to handle the situation going forward. Everyone has their own definition of what supporting a company means and whether the actions of a few constitute the stance of an entire company. Or even how many people it takes to taint a company with their views. Everyone will have to make up their own mind what's the best course of action here. Boycott? That's fine. Don't think boycott is best course of action? I'll respect that as well.
I'll also remind everyone that most of you came from a forum with a convicted pedophile mod and even though he was canned the situation was handled very poorly. Other abuse accusations caused you to move over, but a pedo mod resulted in few leaving. I can also remember other forums referring to the other board as pedo enablers given that situation and even before it for some of that mods prior behavior. So, I wouldn't be too quick to cast the first stone. All the while you can still recognize what a horrible thing THQ did and hope those reponsible are rightly punished. Multiple different views on such a subject can be held without being in conflict with one another.
Yeah feels sketchy them knowing my email now that you mention it lol
What's other ways to contact them so the issue has to be brought up to their chain of command. If not THQ contact, maybe a Twitter dm or post?
The people responsible need to be gone.
Now I don't know how they run things over there...but this just doesn't happen because one or a few people had an idea and acted on it that same morning. I'm assuming there was an approval process and these employees didn't go rogue.
Just climb the chain and get this bullshit out of your company. This is something that will be referenced to their brand for a very long time, so it's not going to make people turn a blind eye to this like it didn't happen...but you can ensure us that everybody at your company isn't a piece of shit.
Edit: Not "everybody" in the general sense, just the people in the departments responsible. Not the devs that had nothing to do with it. I should've clarified above.
Now I don't know how they run things over there...but this just doesn't happen because one or a few people had an idea and acted on it that same morning. I'm assuming there was an approval process and these employees didn't go rogue.
Just climb the chain and get this bullshit out of your company. This is something that will be referenced to their brand for a very long time, so it's not going to make people turn a blind eye to this like it didn't happen...but you can ensure us that everybody at your company isn't a piece of shit.
Edit: Not "everybody" in the general sense, just the people in the departments responsible. Not the devs that had nothing to do with it. I should've clarified above.
What happens when you report them for offensive content on Steam? Is there a chance you get banned yourself?
User Banned (1 Day): Drive-by post in sensitive subject thread
It's a mistake it happens, move on.
THQ isn't gonna do shit, and neither is the majority of paying customers outside of Era.
I'm not buying their games from now on. That's about all that can be done, small as it is.
I'm not buying their games from now on. That's about all that can be done, small as it is.
It was not a mistake, it clearly was intentional and they knew exactly what they were doing when you look at the evidence. Real people got hurt by what THQ did, and they should take responsibility for it.
No, not to my knowledge, however I don't think that's right since they didn't publish anything offensive on Steam.
For what it's worth, he was a convicted pedo former mod. He was out of the staff for a long time before anyone knew he was a pedophile. We don't know the full history of every single person we bump into on the Internet, so so it's not unlikely that there are a few troubling people hiding in any sizeable message board (and a lot of smaller ones too). We can only be expected to act on the information we know.
And speaking of being expected to act on the information we know, the staff weren't telling the public to come join them on the place he gets his fix. That's a huge different between that situation and this one.
Before you say it's a mistake, can you confirm that you are aware:
- The site in question is delisted from Google, so attempting to google it instead brings up links to websites such as wikipedia that describe its link with child porn
- THQ Nordic was warned on twitter about the site once they announced the AMA
- THQ Nordic's twitter outright said that they had talked to the mod of the board about getting rid of the "nasty stuff", as if they were anticipating nasty stuff
- The top of the page, which they had to scroll past to post the AMA thread or post in the thread, contained a link to a board dedicated to sexualized images of little boys
- The first reply to the AMA was "heil hitler"
- THQ Nordic's staff directly replied to a post using a homophobic slur and another taking about "big titty lolis"
- THQ Nordic's twitter liked a tweet assuring them that the AMA was going well and the detractors were just overly sensitive
If you were not aware, do you feel that any of this information changes your opinion on whether or not it was a mistake?
Yeah, video game people casually mistake a neonazi, pedophile site as a decent place, they do AMAs there while being greeted with "Heil Hitler" and long after the conclusion of this, they apologize for not having due diligence.
It happens all the time. /s
Educate yourself on the issue first before posting.
Like others have noted in a thread, it doesn't take 5 days for a major company to react/respond to something like this.
That no one has tells me there either are more significant legal consequences on putting pressure or outright cutting ties with THQN--as typically morality clauses are imposed on people, not corporations--or there isn't enough public outcry to justify doing so.
I'd almost wonder if some of the big companies would be concerned about a more significant outcry/boycott campaign from taking action than not.
And even if, say, MS or Nintendo cut ties, that impacts a number of developers who had nothing to do with this - which I imagine everyone would like to avoid.
This is a very tough situation to adjudicate without some collateral damage--or, at least, it is without the resignation of Brock and his superior in play.
That no one has tells me there either are more significant legal consequences on putting pressure or outright cutting ties with THQN--as typically morality clauses are imposed on people, not corporations--or there isn't enough public outcry to justify doing so.
I'd almost wonder if some of the big companies would be concerned about a more significant outcry/boycott campaign from taking action than not.
And even if, say, MS or Nintendo cut ties, that impacts a number of developers who had nothing to do with this - which I imagine everyone would like to avoid.
This is a very tough situation to adjudicate without some collateral damage--or, at least, it is without the resignation of Brock and his superior in play.
Everyone hangs out with pedophiles and neo-nazis every now and then, shit happens
Ah yes, one of those "oops I stumbled onto a website that's delisted from Google due to links to child porn and happily interacted with the people on there" mistakes.
But he was told they would take care of the nasty stuff (shout out to mark)
I thought only the GOG guy quietly got the boot?
I'm boycotting CDP and GOG because the company's response to the continued fuck-ups of their social media people contributed to the image of a company with transphobic values.
The attempted apology for the first transphobic tweet is generic boilerplate that doesn't even acknowledge what they did wrong. Could literally be used for any wrongdoing ever. And it's one of those "sorry to those offended" non-apologies that implies they're not sorry for what they did, they did nothing wrong, it's just these overly sensitive people who get offended at the slightest thing.
The response to the second transphobic tweet isn't even an attempted apology. And it frames the existence of trans people as a debate.
In the Eurogamer article, the fired GOG guy claims this response was written by his manager who supposedly told him they were not going to apologize for this tweet.
So yeah they did the opposite of convince me that their company is not transphobic.
I don't know about you, but I certainly don't end up on forums that fucking host child pornography and allow discussions on sexually abusing children by "mistake".
As we've seen recently, game devs get laid off even when a company is hugely successful. Workers will get fucked over either way so best not to let it factor into your decision on a boycott.
Ah, good to hear. I'll look into that previous case if the apology was enough.
Yeah, I'm guessing they didn't try donating to trans charities or help out in a positive way for the people affected by their tweets.
Basically the act of 4chan becoming "politically correct" consisted entirely of them banning child pornography. The people mad about this formed 8chan.
Is this low effort drive by bait post because if not then it truly reads like one of lowest effort posts I have seen thus far. The notion that was a "mistake" needs to be buried once and for all.
It is disgusting and tiresome when people hand wave this scandal away as a "mistake" or "ignorance" on THQN's part despite the multiple evidences that proves intent.
'Gamers' continue to be trash.
That is how 8chan was created but it was still small back then.
4chan had enough with gamergate and banned that eventually.
That's how 8chan became the goto venue to coordinate doxxing campaigns.
Gamergate caused it to grow and these bastions of ethics in journalism were ok shacking up with child porn peddlers.
Yeah. 8chan was a tiny shitstain and when gamergate happened and that got banned on 4chan, you started seeing posts saying "4chan sux you wanna talk about gamergate come to 8chan".
It's already been mentioned, but the easiest way to put pressure on THQ Nordic is through Nickelodeon. While sending their PR department an email is OK, the quickest way to get the ball rolling is to repeatedly go on their social media feeds, point out their relationship with THQ, & ask them to either intervene or sever ties. In addition, people can make their local/national news affiliates as well as child protection groups aware of their partnership with THQ.
This would at least give Nickelodeon a chance to do something constructive (since they're being somewhat unfairly dragged into this) rather than ignoring or running away from the issue.
This would at least give Nickelodeon a chance to do something constructive (since they're being somewhat unfairly dragged into this) rather than ignoring or running away from the issue.
THQ got the licences to a lot of Nickelodeon IPs not too long ago.
Last year it was announced that Nickelodeon and THQ Nordic would be partnering to bring back a lot of old Nickelodeon game IPs to keep the past alive of sorts. And they are porting them all to newer systems.
https://www.polygon.com/2018/3/21/17146994/nickelodeon-video-games-list-thq-nordic
Not really sure why you're being condescending. I don't pay attention to Nickelodeon or their games so I had no idea that they were working with Nordic to re-release them.
Thanks for the clarification, I didn't look into it in detail because I'm already done with them as well.
Boycotting THQ, obviously.
Beyond that, attempting to put pressure on developers and licensors to not do business with THQ beyond current contractual obligations.
Scrutiny and shame simply don't have the same weight as cold hard cash, you've got to hit them in the pocket.
Beyond that, attempting to put pressure on developers and licensors to not do business with THQ beyond current contractual obligations.
Scrutiny and shame simply don't have the same weight as cold hard cash, you've got to hit them in the pocket.
Yeah, no. I was interested in a number of their games, but their actions have completely alienated me, but cool that you don't have an ounce of empathy I guess.
Is there an email to put the pressure on this? I've already put THQ Nordic on ignore on Steam and reported them.
The people responsible for this need to be thrown on their asses, make major contributions to charities centered on child exploitation, etc.
The fact that this seemingly hasn't happened in any capacity is so fucking disgusting and reflects poorly on that whole company for as long as they protect the assholes that let this happen.
The fact that this seemingly hasn't happened in any capacity is so fucking disgusting and reflects poorly on that whole company for as long as they protect the assholes that let this happen.
For future boycotts you should also consider that people defended Rockstar despite the crunch and said we should still buy their games to support the devs. I'm not sure a boycott for a game of one of the many studios that are under THQ Nordic would be the right way to hold the leadership & PR division of THQ 'accountable'. The Biomutant developer is not responsible for THQ Nordic's mistake.
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Same. I was slightly interested in a couple of their new games but staying clear from them now
After the Activision layoffs I'm not even sure buying games can be considered supporting the devs. They get screwed regardless of the perfomance of their games.
Personally I want this shit to follow THQ Nordic everywhere it goes until they actually does some kind of meaningful reparation, and I think expunging the people directly involved would be a good start.
It's not a big ask.
8chan user posted a thread to praise and livestreamed an fps style video killing many, many muslims in NZ Christchurch just now, multiple shooters, and said 'subscribe to pewdiepie' before he started.
Fuck THQ
Fuck THQ
I did consider that, but sadly I feel we're the only ones, if any, to really be vocally against their actions to the point of legit boycotting their games. It seems the very vast majority have moved on, if they even were aware in the first place. :(