How do you think Gamefreak/Nintendo will make the Gen 8 Pokemon games appealing to Gen 1 fans?

Oct 25, 2017
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I never said they were the only ones, but they have relied on Gen 1 love for years now and its only made the franchise increase in popularity.
there's better correlation to other events than the inclusion of Gen 1 stuff.
  1. XY - first new pokemon on new hardware, which is always the best selling on said hardware
  2. SM - riding the hype of Pokemon Go
You can't be serious.
pokemon's appeal doesn't come from gen wars. it goes from the gameplay and the pokemon themselves. if GF didn't pander so much in XY and SM, the sales wouldn't change all that much, I theorize
 
Feb 8, 2018
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there's better correlation to other events than the inclusion of Gen 1 stuff.
  1. XY - first new pokemon on new hardware, which is always the best selling on said hardware
  2. SM - riding the hype of Pokemon Go

pokemon's appeal doesn't come from gen wars. it goes from the gameplay and the pokemon themselves. if GF didn't pander so much in XY and SM, the sales wouldn't change all that much, I theorize
But why do they do it then, regardless if they're mistaken in doing so, they still do it.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I never said they were the only ones, but they have relied on Gen 1 love for years now and its only made the franchise increase in popularity.



You are forgetting Pokemon Go being what connects the whole ¨GBC -> Pokemon Go -> Switch¨ consumers.

We can argue this on a forum, but Gamefreak´s actions speak volumes of how important Gen 1 focus is for them when it comes to selling their products.
The problem with this statement is that how in places the people on this forum in such a high pedestal it's embarrasing. "Oh it's only because of me and MY generation that these games are popular, ergo Pokemon should cater to me alone and fuck all those kids/teens/adults who grew up in later generations, they probably don't exist compared to me, the ORIGINAL fan!" It's the same damn attitude that comic book fans had that led to the crash. "I'm the most important so as long as they cater to me and only me, nothing will be wrong!" There are young children becoming adults who grew up in the 4th generation. Where are their nostalgia points? Do they not deserve them?
 
If they do anything with the Gen 1 Pokemon, I hope Wigglytuff gets something since they've suffered the same fate Raichu did before Gen VII

Also the Oddish line if only because their my fav line of Pokemon (Bellossom forever).
 
Sep 14, 2018
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Much like others have said, I'd sincerely hope they cut back on the Gen 1 pandering this time around. LGPE just released, which were basically made to pander to that demographic. I feel like adding in the nostalgia stuff kinda hurts the credibility of any newer designs - it makes it look like they have no faith in their new creations, so they just fall back on older stuff that's already been tried and tested. Gen 5 was, in my opinion, the best Pokemon has ever been, and I'd argue the willingness to not cling on to previous successes is part of the reason why.

Also, you say a big part of of the fanbase only cares about Gen 1, but I'd argue that if they only care about 1 out of 8 of the gens so far, they perhaps don't quite count as part of the core fanbase.
 

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There is a significant number of Switch owners or potential Switch owners who haven't touched a Nintendo handheld since the GBC (or if they did ever use a DS it was only for HGSS).

Plus if Gen 8 is a true full 3D RPG like it should be it's something Gen1/2 fans have wanted since we first saw 3D battles in the Stadium games.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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There is a significant number of Switch owners or potential Switch owners who haven't touched a Nintendo handheld since the GBC (or if they did ever use a DS it was only for HGSS).

Plus if Gen 8 is a true full 3D RPG like it should be it's something Gen1/2 fans have wanted since we first saw 3D battles in the Stadium games.
Well, good news! There's a video game designed specifically for them!



What, do you want the original 151 only in ANOTHER pokemon game a year after we literally had Kanto 2.0?
 

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that's not a feeling limited to people who played Gen 1/2. even the GCN games have better presentations than the current games
I'm not saying it should be a remake but I don't want Gen1/2 Pokemon locked off to the endgame. I'd want to be able to get a Pikachu/Charmander/etc pretty quickly.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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To me, the big sign of a bad trend when it comes to excessive pandering to gen 1 fans is not the XY megas or the Alolan forms (that was fine, in fact I liked it), or even the Let's Go games (though those are pretty excessive). It's the fact that there's so many spin-off games, some on the older/newer systems and some on mobile, and yet none of them have ever been developed directly by Game Freak -- until now.

Pokemon Quest, starring exclusively Gen 1 mons only. With the chance for making something unique in this spinoff, Game Freak decided to ignore six generations of creatures, 650 of them, to only go with the first ones. And considering they went on to make Let's Go shortly after, makes this a baffling and worrying trend.

These sort of forum topics don't help either.
 
Feb 8, 2018
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Man, I'm still not over cross gen evos not being a thing in Let's Go, despite mega evos and alolan forms getting in. Even the most stubborn of gen 1 lovers must've been confused by that decision right? Did any of them prefer mega evos in a gen 1 nostalgia game over something like Crobat?
 
Oct 29, 2017
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I hope they fucking bin all of the original 151 and fuck off with the Genwunner pandering.

Ever since X/Y it has been fucking incessant! I don’t want to see another bloody Pikachu or a Pidgey again!!

Dream scenario: They pull a Gen 5 and go for another soft reboot. That was the best game in the series by far! This time they follow in its footsteps without falling flat on their face, like they did with X/Y.

Alternative Dream Scenario: They pull a Gen 4 and make it truly a grand culmination of ALL of the games in the series. Not just fucking Gen 1!!!

Likely scenario/Nightmare scenario: They turn Pokemon into a bad BOTW clone and fill it with nothing but Gen 1 Pokemon and endless Genwunner pandering.

Game Freak have a LOT to prove to win me back. The series has been in absolute tailspin ever since X/Y (outside of its battle mechanics. Mega Evolution was an excellent addition to the series!) and it’s now the worst it has ever been; it barely resembles Pokemon at all right now...
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I'm not saying it should be a remake but I don't want Gen1/2 Pokemon locked off to the endgame. I'd want to be able to get a Pikachu/Charmander/etc pretty quickly.
Charmander is a starter. Why should it get special treatment over Torchick?

And if there’s any Pokémon you don’t have to worry about showing up it’s Pikachu.

Black and White is the only time they’d try something as cool as locking him to post game and thanks to a bunch of whiners we can be sure it’ll never happen again.