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How tech's richest plan to save themselves after the apocalypse
- Thread starter DisasterMaster
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Dude, we're not arguing that it's going to work out for them. Why are you getting so hung up on this? We're saying this is the exact reason why we need to take the keys away.
Uh, no? Why would I wait until a crisis is on top of me to respond to the crisis. This is like saying "we should wait for recession to actually happen instead of trying to prevent recession proactively".
That's just weird.
By the time the resource wars happen it'll already be too late to fix things.
I'm reminded of that episode of the outer limits where a group of people did just this, and their robot guards wound up keeping them prisoners in their compound for like hundreds of years after the Apocalypse had ended.
Honestly i would rather get slaughtered in the first wave than be some fuckin poindexter trying desperately to maintain leverage over my minions.
Christopher Walken wasn't an android in that movie, common mistake.
They might think their fictitious wealth will help them should the world go to shit, but it won't. The only thing that will help anyone in this doomsday scenario is the capability to inflict violence.
That's where access to military grade autonomous drones comes in. Bezos knows what he's doing.
I mean I'm kind of joking, but I'm nor seeing anything pretty either. More like a 1984 style mutually assured perpetuity scenario of fortress states instigated by plutocrats and cutthroat strongmen, kinda like what's kinda happening now.
I'm not joking at all. Whether intentional or coincidental Amazon is coming to dominate much of our infrastructure, physical and digital. When we have websites hosted on AWS servers and fleets of robotic trucks delivering Amazon Basics™ goods, Bezos is on track to be the primary user/controller of much of the developed world in a decade or two. His hegemony will be even more complete once delivery drones become the norm.
Just look at Afghanistan. Should shit hit the fan, that's the model.
Because you're waiting for the apocalypse on the words of paranoid rich people who think the human civilization will collapse.
How do drones operate for such a long time in an post-apocalyptic world? There won't be power or infrastructure to make sure these drones are long term. Or we just talking about the apocalypse as in, "Things went slightly downhill, but the government, resource pipelines, and everything else is basically intact". In which case there was no apocalypse.
I'm not waiting for anything. Actually, I assumed that was your position.
I want to take action against the tech rich NOW to prevent probable harm LATER. My stance on this is no different than my stances on climate change or economic recession. Waiting for shit to hit the fan before you take action is far too late.
I get what you're saying but you're then believing their paranoia. There's no need to prepare for things like rich people hording all the world's food because that's impossible. Or them getting robot guards. Or whatever fantasy apocalypse where they somehow retain all their status. It doesn't work that way, and people should actively ignore such paranoia and work on legit issues that will cascade like climate change, inequality, etc. Them fantasizing about how to retain power in an apocalypse is not on the radar.
I imagine much the way a roomba backs up to it's charger. The smoldering husk is just fantasy, but to ignore the history of human tyranny is just farcical as well. Police snipers in Brazil are going full IDF on favelas right now. I'm not about to let my guard down simply because I lack the imagination for it.
I think you can let go of the idea that in a post-apocalyptic world that there will be enough infrastructure similar to The Maze Runner to operate and house an army.
But that's hard. Surely it'll just happen on its own once you've abolished the billionaires?
I believe there will be resource wars regardless of some rich nerds think and that runaway climate change will incite some of these crises people associate with the apocalypse.
The rich people fantasy in the OP informs only a part of my predictions. There's numerous other factors that cause me to think we're headed toward crisis.
However it cannot be stated enough that the rich are constantly an obstacle standing in the way of reform, whether it's for carbon emissions, inequality, housing, infrastructure, taxes, government, and so on and so forth. So they're a problem regardless of how realistic or fantastic their delusions are. The stuff in the OP, for me, is only an indication that the rich cannot be trusted with their power, nor can they be trusted to have the general populace's welfare in mind and need to be taxed into oblivion before they solidify their power over policy.
Are you even reading my posts? I'm just gonna assume you're doing this on purpose and bite my finger at you.
Silicon bodies are TIGHT. But then, if we could reproduce, all that scifi media using real racism allegory for fake racism might be relevant.
I think he's indicting the rich people and not the critics here.
I would happily throw rich people under the Titanic-bus if it means getting averting the iceberg of climate change disaster.
In a world where wealth = power and the predominant system of wealth acquisition is institutionally biased against non-whites, and capitalism is the consolidation of wealth, I think it does qualify as a strain of fascism.
What the Samoyed was saying.
As long as the plebs have Netflix and porn they have nothing to fear...
But if they keep taking to the point folks can't even have that.....they gonna get that King Louie treatment.
But if they keep taking to the point folks can't even have that.....they gonna get that King Louie treatment.
That is how I'm thinking about it, too. And even if other factors, like race, were mitigated, it would seem that the rich would just have to create some other flimsy narrative about how their gross excess of power over the masses is natural or just or metaphysically necessary.
In a world that's strictly meritocratic where everyone has the opportunity to become part of this class, since much of it is built on inequality, I do believe this class would cease to exist. Therefore, the only conclusion that can be drawn regarding those who promote and benefit from the status quo is that they're cryptofascists, and they are blind to even their own fasicistic impulses as they erroneously believe this (inequality to their benefit) is simply the normal state of things.
If you follow the rules laid out by the Parker Bros, there is only one winner in Monopoly.
Time to not follow the rules. No need to let this get to French Revolution levels.
Time to not follow the rules. No need to let this get to French Revolution levels.
Tax billionaires out of existence. These leeches could literally avert an ecological apocalypse and jumpstart a scientific revolution that could raise the living standards of the entire world if they weren't so greedy.
I've had intro level university courses in a wide variety of subjects, including enviromental science, so I'll give this a shot ;-)
"Which region will be less affected by the coming climate crisis: New Zealand or Alaska?"
I say forget both and go to Greenland. They'll have access to massive amounts of freshwater from the arctic glacier melt, pretty nice weather, set up well for renewable energy when the rest of the world is cooking (hydro electric), and excellent mineral resources.
"Is Google really building Ray Kurzweil a home for his brain, and will his consciousness live through the transition, or will it die and be reborn as a whole new one?"
No idea, but in the off chance his brain survives, he would still be Ray Kurzweil. Brain damage of course could change him to essentially be someone else, but that's just true in general. There life and death is an interesting philosophical question. Like if you have permanent amnesia and damage changes aspects of your personality, the same question could be asked. When a relative was in a very advanced state of alzheimers before they died, I've heard some say that they had already been grieving because the person they knew was already gone.
"How do I maintain authority over my security force after the Event?"
First off, they'll probably be dead of natural causes before the type of total societal colapse that would necessitate a doomsday bunker. But should such an unlikely Event to occur, you're probably fucked if you've hired professional security. The best way to get security would be to set yourself up as a cult leader. Make your bunker big enough to sustain a small community, and be their messiah. They'll learn to use the weapons and will be more loyal.
And reading their questions, I would have to agree with Michelle Obama that these ultrawealthy elites generally aren't particularly bright lol.