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How will Banning work on ResetEra? (Up: Mod Edit)
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Just from a clarity perspective, couldn't a temporary ban be called a suspension? A "ban" implies permanence to me.
I think it's safe to assume anything that would have gotten you banned over there would get you banned here. This is just clarifying how banning will work, not how much you can "get away with."
I feel like thanks to the notification system and transparent bannings, I never have to click "post history" ever ever ever ever again
I was wondering how warnings were going to work. So you'll be updating the post itself sometimes (if it doesn't get deleted), rather than just responding to a thread
It'll be neat if Mods show up in person to explain via posts sometimes though. So far I really respect that aspect of Era.
Correct. If it's something that immediately needs to be removed, like someone posting pornography, then the post won't exist (or it might just be edited and then a red bar will exist), we'll have the explanation somewhere.
This is good. Being as open as you can will lead to less us vs them, user vs mods, mentality.
So what you're saying is those were the exclusive VIP forums? I approve of this. Everyone to get bans on purpose.
Check the post I linked to earlier. The time length of the ban is public information. No more members openly asking was x banned permanently?
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Are we going to have a Resetera Gold member club like other site had? I think this site ban system is a bit more leinient than other sites. Also, can mods change the information underneath your avatar like change it from "member" to "this guy is crazy" with the link.
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so looking at both those post the one without the 24 hours was a perma bann or not?
Yeah, ZhugeEX clarified that to me. If it has a time stamp it is temp, if it doesn't it's permanent. That poster in the glitches thread seems to have been a troll account.
Although the timestamp might be an optional addition, meaning technically a ban might be applied where the timestamp isn't added and it is temp. I guess the idea seems to be temp bans will show the timeframe. It's better that way so users don't start asking if their favourite poster is ever coming back lol.
I understand the desire to have some anonymity as a mod, and to tell the forum not to discuss moderation actions publicly. Therefore, as much transparency as possible to keep all sides informed really is the best approach. It should stop most asking questions publicly, and also stop speculation on ban lengths/what someone was banned for. People on here can't deny on that other forum it would often be right to "view users posts" to guess what one of their last x amount of posts caught the ban.
Even if Bronson wasn't a mod, I could still imagine him posting this
Oh that works fantastically. The clarity and transparency is great.
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the modding on the other side was terrible november 9th. People were straight up perma ban for saying "voted trump" or "I'm glad trump won" when voting trump wasn't again the TOS.
As funny as that could be, I'm going to nofunallowed.jpg and say it's probably best not to glamorize permanent bans/bans in general. That can cultivate a community that celebrates bans and potentially mods that see them as fun rather than a simply judgement call/application of the rules. Really best starting from scratch not to bring over everything from the other place. Learn from mistakes and try and improve some things. The transparency is already an improvement. You don't need to be in HR/management to know running most of the best companies comes with as much transparency with employees as possible. Yeah, we're not employees here, but moderation on a forum does behave somewhat like management would in a job. Transparency, honesty and open communication will always lead to the most productive employees ;)
For what it is worth, I'd vote for the "I've made a huge mistake" gif to replace avatars of all permanently banned users.
Yeah, no. If someone is banned, get the initial reactions out of your system and move along.
All I can say is good riddance to modbot. It started out as supposedly being a way to shield moderators from pm spam and attacks and quickly just descended into a way for someone sitting behind anonymity to act like a raging asshole both in the topic and in the ban message.
My last ban was a modbot ban and the piece of shit told me to put myself into therapy because every one hated me. Takes a real big man to dig through someone's post history, see he mentioned a suicide attempt, and sit behind an anonymous mask and hurl that back into someone's face knowing they'd never have the chance to face any consequences for it.
My last ban was a modbot ban and the piece of shit told me to put myself into therapy because every one hated me. Takes a real big man to dig through someone's post history, see he mentioned a suicide attempt, and sit behind an anonymous mask and hurl that back into someone's face knowing they'd never have the chance to face any consequences for it.
The logo wasn't stolen. Didn't really need a thread for random speculation.
EDIT: Usually we'll take the last post and put the reason there. Things are a little...busy at the moment. :D
Yeah. I've been lurking SL&ENT during the anarchy, and there were stories of some ridiculous bans. Resetera seems to be managed by multiple mods operating under set rules, so hopefully occurence of such poor bans are lower.
No glorification of bans, please. All entertainment industries go corrupt!
No glorification of bans, please. All entertainment industries go corrupt!
Some ban messages will have been done for effect. It was more the locked messages on topics where people wanted to see crazy modbot snark to celebrate it. People openly admitted viewing locked topics they would never otherwise go into just to see the modbot message. It's okay to joke every now and then, but most of the time just stating the reason why something is being locked is best. The only defence I can give to some at the other place is, moderating is probably somewhat similar to working a customer service role. The longer you do it, the more jaded, broken and frustrated you get. This place is new, it's the honeymoon period and the user count is great for week 1, but still quite low in the grand scale of forums. Hopefully, a big moderating team can cover the forum efficiently to try and prevent burn out/stress.
Transparency is definitely a good shield to try and prevent that us vs them attitude that can sometimes brew between moderation and users.
There should be some kind of accolade for people with aged accounts that haven't ever been banned/suspended. Kinda like the titles on that last site.
I swear like a sailor, but as long as it's not absolutely ridiculous like using it as a comma, or using it to personally attack someone, it's all right. Just don't be a jerk about it.
That's a fair question. I closed the thread, so I updated it with a bit at the bottom.
Noticed that too. Will we be able to see reasons for thread lockings as well? Will a Mod edit in a post after the fact?
EDIT: Aaaand nevermind!
This is a great post. I haven't seen it in action yet I don't think, but having specific posts labeled "user was warned for this post" and "user was banned for this post" are very good things. The lack of transparency on another forum was very disconcerting at times. And the dogpile celebrations of bannings also are not good; another great point there.
This might be too much to ask, but some of appeal process would be great too. Moderation was heavily criticized at times on another forum and something like that here along with the increased transparency could go a long way. It might become a lot of work, but in theory we shouldn't exactly have hundreds of bans taking place on a daily or even weekly basis around here at this point in time.
As someone who casually swears quite a lot, I'd like to know this too.
I'd like to think we can swear our hearts out as long as it's not aimed at another user.
I absolutely support transparency and making ban reasons public as it allows for users to see what is and isn't acceptable more clearly, and can deter the chance of mod abuse. It is an absolute win-win for the community.
Yeah. Modding is thankless job. That's why I am amenable to paid mods; not only would it bring professionalism, but also they definitely deserve it for managing a forum of this size.
This topic is probably better mentioned in other thread about profits.
I honestly wish I still had the access to investigate the records on our end. I'm not calling you a liar, but I'm really curious to understand the context here in terms of who performed the ban and what the exact internal reasoning for it was. But I do not so I can only take your word for it.
One thing I will note is that bans were anonymous from the start. ModBot only allowed a different medium for issuing a ban instead of having to log into the Mod Control Panel. Otherwise everything worked just as it did before. I'm assuming that bans can be issued anonymously here as well, though I'm honestly not very familiar with XenForo. Some of the features look pretty neat. I kind of wish NeoGAF had managed to migrate there as planned. Though in the end some might argue that it did!
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