HSBC issued an alarming warning that Earth is running out of the resources to sustain life

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HSBC also stated that companies and governments are not "adequately prepared" for climate effects: https://www.businessinsider.com/hsbc-warns-earth-is-running-out-of-resources-for-life-2018-8

One of the world's largest banks says the planet is running out of resources and warns that neither governments nor companies are prepared for climate change.

The world spent its entire natural resource budget for the year by August 1, a group of analysts at HSBC said in a note that cited research from the Global Footprint Network (GFN).

That means that the world's citizens used up all the planet's resources for the year in just seven months, according to GFN's analysis.

"In our opinion, these findings and events show that many businesses and governments are not adequately prepared for climate impacts, nor are they using natural resources efficiently," the HSBC analysts said in the note.

Many banks and asset managers have started factoring climate risks into their decision-making — a move spurred in part by former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg. But it's far less common to see multinational banks sound the alarm about climate change so explicitly in their equity research.

Earth Overshoot Day, the point in a year at which we use up a year's worth of resources, has been steadily moving forward in time since GFN first started tracking it. In 1970, we "overshot" Earth's resource budget by only 2 days — Overshoot Day fell on December 29, according to HSBC. That date has been pushed up by almost five months since then.

HSBC's note also warned about extreme events resulting from heat, including the wildfires in Scandinavia and broken temperature records around the world.

"As scientists work on attribution analysis for specific events — the general consensus is that climate change is making these events more likely to occur and more severe," HSBC said.


The predicted effects of climate change are starting to become real. Wildfires have torn through California in recent years, and they're part of a worsening trend related to rising global temperatures. Other consequences include increased frequency of hurricanes and flooding, melting ice sheets, and greater numbers ofheat waves.

Recent studies have shown that global temperatures by the year 2100 could be up to 15% higher than the highest projections from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
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According to HSBC, extreme events have severe economic and social costs.

"In our view, adaptation will move further up the agenda with a growing focus on the social consequences," the analysts said.
The HSBC warning: https://www.gbm.hsbc.com/insights/energy-and-resources/earth-budget-already-spent

The world spent its entire natural resources budget for 2018 by 1 August – consuming a whole year’s quota of reserves in just seven months

Our demand for natural resources such as food, forestry and marine products as well as our demand on nature such as carbon emissions and built-up land is analysed by Global Footprint Network, which calculates ‘Earth Overshoot Day,’ when the year’s replenishable means have been consumed.

That day has been arriving ever earlier. In 1970 the year’s resources lasted until 29 December; by the early ’80s they been used up by November and by the end of that decade it was October. The overshoot day first came as early September in 1995 and within a decade it was in August. In 2018, it was the very beginning of that month.

As the ecological deficit grows, the impacts include an inability to support ecosystems – biodiversity and land or marine life – plus natural capital erosion, resulting in lack of freshwater, clean air and soil, as well as climate change.

Extreme events this year have included wildfires and heatwaves. Although seasonal in many countries, large-scale wildfires have appeared in latitudes as far north as Scandinavia and temperature records were broken in some areas.

The general consensus is that climate change is making such events more likely to occur and more severe.


These events have economic implications - asset loss and behavioural changes - as well as human and social implications such as lives lost and livelihoods disrupted. In our view, adaptation to climate change will move further up the agenda with a growing focus on the social consequences as scientists work on attribution analysis for specific events.

These findings and events seem to show that many businesses and governments are not adequately prepared for climate impacts and are not using natural resources efficiently. Companies will be under increasing pressure to be more sustainable – and to disclose their strategies. Investors face pressure to integrate environmental, social and governance policies into investment decisions, while governments provide adequate regulatory frameworks.
 

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"In our opinion, these findings and events show that many businesses and governments are not adequately prepared for climate impacts, nor are they using natural resources efficiently," the HSBC analysts said in the note.

Excuse me HSBC but I think you’ll find the free market is the most efficient way to use and distribute resources and in fact part of nature itself.
 

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Maybe it’s in th article, which I admittedly didn’t read, but how is a bank an authority on something like this?
 

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Fake news. HSBC is an abbreviation of Hongkong Shanghai Banking Corporation. Chinese conspiracy confirmed.
 

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We need to make to make more drastic changes in the USA, Europe, China and India. I have a sinking feeling that the IPCC drastically underestimated the temperature rise.
Maybe it’s in th article, which I admittedly didn’t read, but how is a bank an authority on something like this?
From my limited understanding, most investment banks have huge research arms that are on the lookout for upcoming opportunities to capitalize on and potential threats to their interests. They likely don't have climatologists on staff, but they're likely seeing patterns emerge that go along with scientific consensus.
 

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I am shocked.
Who would have thought that being fruitful and multiplying and filling the earth and subduing it could result in this?

(I've been saying it for a long time, we need global population control. There is no other way.)
Except it's not the majority of the population who use up all the resources. The western world is obese while people from the 3rd world are starving.

Western culture would just consume even more even with controls in place.
 

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We need to make to make more drastic changes in the USA, Europe, China and India. I have a sinking feeling that the IPCC drastically underestimated the temperature rise.

From my limited understanding, most investment banks have huge research arms that are on the lookout for upcoming opportunities to capitalize on and potential threats to their interests. They likely don't have climatologists on staff, but they're likely seeing patterns emerge that go along with scientific consensus.
Ah, that actually makes a lot of sense. Thanks.
 

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Sounds like a liberal scientist conspiracy to me
 

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I am shocked.
Who would have thought that being fruitful and multiplying and filling the earth and subduing it could result in this?

(I've been saying it for a long time, we need global population control. There is no other way.)
We could sustain much more population if we didn't consume so much as we do in the developed world.
 

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The world spent its entire natural resource budget for the year by August 1


I have never heard of this before. Oh well just chalk it up on the list of hopelessness.
 

BADMAN

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Haha when the corporation laundering cartel money are worried about humanity maybe THAT will be a big enough red flag for action. It won't be though.
 

Akira86

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We could sustain much more population if we didn't consume so much as we do in the developed world.
isnt it nutty how every time someone says "we need population control, there is no other way" there are literally dozens if not hundreds of other ways. It's just that we can keep doing what we're doing, without too many changes.... if we only kill off 75% of the population.
 

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I'm sorry, did I say kill? I meant conserve. We must conserve 25% of the population, and sacrifice 75%. It would be madness to let the whole thing fall to ruin.
 

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I mean this is well known, and of course HSBC are more a part of the problem than the solution at the moment, given their investment portfolio...They should divest, but they are a company with pretty shitty ethical policies overall.

But yeah, the very business model and mindset that most companies operates on, prevents them adequately adapting. We need an ecological / sustainable tech revolution on the level, or likely greater than the industrial / green revolutions...but the current economic / political climate is doing its darnest to resist change.

Fanboi: Of couse population also matters...humans even at a local scale use quite a bit of resources, more humans in a resource finite planet means less space for other organisms, particularly large wild mammals and birds. There is a both a population problem and a resource use problem. The West and the developed East are the most responsible by far of course. I think there even needs to be population standards in Europe and the US...one child born in the US will have over a hundred times larger eco footprint than a child born in say Gambia...
 

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Think about how humanity would behave if we suddenly had twice as much oil to burn.

Creating more resources would only speed up climate change and our self created doom.
True. And the advancements of technology being wide spread would have a better effect on the Earth if the population was cut in half too. But if I had a remote control to the universe I feel like some extra planning and process in saving lives and planets going an extra mile to make all life a walking eden would be nice.
 

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Fake news. HSBC is an abbreviation of Hongkong Shanghai Banking Corporation. Chinese conspiracy confirmed.
The real irony is that it was a British bank created to give credit/capital in order to fund the illegal importation of opium into China.

PROFIT BITCHS FREE TRADE! Really hilarious that the contemporary bank is all, ‘oh dam unfettered capatlism is not infinitely sustainable.’
 

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So reading that by the year 2100 most of humanity will be on the brink of extinction?

Man, some of our grandkids or great grandkids will be alive by then. I don't want them to suffer.
 

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Now tell us where those resources are being used up?

It's defiently not by the majority of the population.
 
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bane833

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Except it's not the majority of the population who use up all the resources. The western world is obese while people from the 3rd world are starving.

Western culture would just consume even more even with controls in place.
The third world has 5 kids per capita they sure as shit aren't starving.
 

Maximus

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No shit. You have all these old people who don’t give a fuck making decisions for the future of the planet. Of course they don’t give a fuck.
 

Qvoth

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If everyone stops wasting so much food I bet humanity can get at least a few extra decades
 

Amalthea

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It still has to get way, way worse before people start just to consider doing something about it.
 

HarryHengst

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Thanks capitalism!

If everyone stops wasting so much food I bet humanity can get at least a few extra decades
No. We would have a few extra decades if we stopped global trade, abolished capitalism and started living like our ancestors again. Stopping or even just slowing climate change and current living standards are not compatible.

This has barely anything to do with individuals making the wrong choices. Its an institutional problem.
 

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Yeah but imagine the amount of delicious fucking money we can earn producing and selling mountains of useless garbage to people.

Fuck, man. And also fuck man.
 
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I get it’s a light-hearted and topical reference, but the problem with people posting fucking Thanos in threads like this, is they should be citing Malthus, or the many other academics or literary touchstones on the subject.

It’s not a meme, it’s marketing, and it’s the dumbing down of our culture, whih is part of the problem.
 

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Let's just hope terraforming becomes more viable before the Earth becomes a Mad Maxian wasteland. Then we can just jump over to Mars, and start the whole process from scratch.
 
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I get it’s a light-hearted and topical reference, but the problem with people posting fucking Thanos in threads like this, is they should be citing Malthus, or the many other academics or literary touchstones on the subject.

It’s not a meme, it’s marketing, and it’s the dumbing down of our culture, whih is part of the problem.
Nah. Bringing up Malthus is not very intelligent, like that one person did earlier. Stating one guy was wrong about resources hundreds of years ago, so it can't ever be a valid concern is asinine.
 

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All of the existential challenges of the 21st century can be summed up by Marvel movie scenes so we cool