Here we go, even the most progressive gaming forum gets on the Trump bandwagon with an idiotic trade war. Time and time again I underestimate the American propaganda machine's effect on people.
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Huawei phones outside of China to lose Google Play services/Android Updates
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Actually I disagree, I think the US government should have the ability to ban US companies from doing business with any entity it so wishes. I believe it was fully within China's rights to set whatever concessions it wanted for foreign countries to do business there and conversely I think it's totally within the US government's rights to dictate who and how foreign companies do business here. Every country should have the ability to ban their companies from doing business with any company they wish frankly.
We really are going back to 19th century nationalism, what a nightmare. How about some evidence? International cooperation? An independent mediator? No? Great.
I don't agree with how Trump's used it but it 100% should be a right the country reserves.
Yes.
My father always talked about the American double standard.
Because all of those shit is disgusting dont make this move by google anything but sucks too. Why does us the consumer of huawei not in us or even china should suffer too?
If u want to call one side as evil being, then at least try to check the mirror as murica certainly dont do this moves because they cared about the chinese muslim suffering there.
Yes they do. US chipset manufacturers shares fell post the announcement of US placing an export ban on Huawei.
And I never claimed that this was being done in protection of the Chinese muslims either. I'll happily be the first to call America out on its shit too. Where I'm from we had government paid for vans telling people to go back. All of it is vile.
Again my only interest is not seeing their network expanded by a company who's government can easily exert control over them. While this doesn't directly further that my hope is that maybe it leads to some reconsideration of who will own our network, because where I am we already have a bad enough issue with malice directed at muslims and I'm a little concerned that it could be abused by another government that regularly attacks muslims already.
By extension I never said people should have to suffer by their phones being made useless, just that it's not something I'm as bothered about because a phone is easier to replace. It also doesn't mean I'm happy with the situation either when I say I dont see why I should care about Huwei as I'm only really addressing the company. Though I get how it could seem I was saying the customers 'deserve' it or something from the wording, but that wasn't the intent.
i bet US companies would lose billions and perhaps a few jobs as Huawei is like no 3 in the smartphone business and big on telecommunications
Huawei responds to Android ban
"Huawei has made substantial contributions to the development and growth of Android around the world. As one of Android's key global partners, we have worked closely with their open-source platform to develop an ecosystem that has benefitted both users and the industry.
Huawei will continue to provide security updates and after-sales services to all existing Huawei and Honor smartphone and tablet products, covering those that have been sold and that are still in stock globally.
We will continue to build a safe and sustainable software ecosystem, in order to provide the best experience for all users globally."
"Huawei has made substantial contributions to the development and growth of Android around the world. As one of Android's key global partners, we have worked closely with their open-source platform to develop an ecosystem that has benefitted both users and the industry.
Huawei will continue to provide security updates and after-sales services to all existing Huawei and Honor smartphone and tablet products, covering those that have been sold and that are still in stock globally.
We will continue to build a safe and sustainable software ecosystem, in order to provide the best experience for all users globally."
It's a bit complicated as Huawei themselves are chipset manufacturers so I don't think they necessarily source too many parts from the US. I think this move from Google (which had they had to take because of US government's export ban) is a lot more damaging to Huawei.
I have a China ROM Xiaomi Mix2s. Brought in China during last 11.11 promotion. I unlocked the bootloader but never bother to flash international ROM on it. Just installed google play store and it was fine. Only thing not working is NFC with google pay. I think if you are in Europe and Middle East and you really want to use Huawei phone, it shouldn't be that big a deal.
If this makes Huawei provide unlock bootloader on their phones in the future, it's a net positive for me. I may even buy a P30P myself.
If this makes Huawei provide unlock bootloader on their phones in the future, it's a net positive for me. I may even buy a P30P myself.
Nothing new then, has always been like that. If this was about National Security, fine, ban the phone in your country and ban the company. But they have taking a decision that will affect everyone. The ramifications of this would be felt for a long time.
You people can equate as much as you want those who don't approve totalitarian criminal disgusting regimes such as China's and Russia's to Trump supporters.
It doesn't make it true and it never will.
Man, the worst thing is Europe dropping the ball on this whole mobile OS thing. They could've provided both stability and freedom of use. Now as American tech suffers under Trump (and as evidenced by this thread, more Americans getting on board with him) we'll eventully get Chinese stability but not much freedom.
You just inconvenienced some people's phones. You did jack shit about any human rights.
Stop acting like this is about human rights shit. This is about money money and money. Dont act like murica is doing this for the sake of humanity. Thats fcking dishonesty.
What did you think.
Americans feel their country is the greatest EVAR and should lord it over everyone else on the planet. It doesn't matter if a shitlord is sitting as president.
Again. We are not talking about the network 5g expansion. It is about android. If it is about 5g, who the F care if Murica or any western country want to ban them on the agenda of safety there?
This Android case is different. This feels like a man child move hoping to pressure China by forcing google to do this, in hope that he will win the trade war at the cost of the everyone. It is stupid, toxic and feels like such immature dick move.
How many hua wei users, hua wei product distributor and workers all over the world will be affected? How much company which can be from all over the world will also suffer that can lead to company closure or employees lay off will happen? This is such a short term moves to please Trump ego which will caused damage everywhere which will also hit Murica.
This is so disingenuous as to be absurd. The idea that VW or Samsung would engage in the same type of rampant IP theft as Chinese industry does is laughable.
This is pretty much it.
As a non American...why do I care? I get shafted anyway. With the American way the shafting is visibly affecting me.
Good. Took them long enough.
Way too many of this garbage in this thread though.
I bet you feel pretty smart posting that comic while not knowing anything about the matter.
That comic has nothing to do with some of the objections in this thread, but I guess it was just cool to post it without reading the thread first.Good. Took them long enough.
Way too many of this garbage in this thread though.
That's funny because Huawei's far reaching tentacles are leading to the death of Canadian citizens in China. Fuck that and the chinese regime and its president Winnie the Pooh.
Why the hell would people at large even care for sales. The delusion in china apologists.
China puts them in concentration camps or just murders them.
"China apologists".
This pretty much confirm what I wrote before: either you agree with the ban or you are a China shill.
Fuck sake, here I was thinking this was a place where things could actually be discussed.
This pretty much confirm what I wrote before: either you agree with the ban or you are a China shill.
Fuck sake, here I was thinking this was a place where things could actually be discussed.
They are already cutting off supplies. Not just US suppliers either.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ends-shipments-to-huawei-nikkei-idUSKCN1SQ0HV
If German companies are stopping business with them, it's not "over nothing".
I've read the thread. Nothing? I can see plenty of "oh you're criticizing China? Yet you're posting from a smartphone / using Facebook / etc."
So no, far from nothing. It fits pretty well.
China is run by someone much worse than a "man-child", and China also started the trade war, Trump is just the first US president to retaliate.
Trump sucks, but China is not your friend people.
This just pretty much confirms you have not read the thread. Couldn't care less about that stupid logic, but sure throw me in the same pool.
Yeah, it's over being scared of potential reactions from the US government, just as with their Iran business. I'm not quite sure why anyone should applaud this.
In contrast, the German government sees no reason to exclude Huawei from providing 5G equipment.
As an European I feel stuck between two potentially unstable superpowers who both claim their propaganda is righteous. Maybe EU will fail soon and we'll get the full trifecta.
Where have you been? The discourse in any thread that include the words 'China', 'Apple', or 'Elon Musk' or 'TLJ' usually descend pretty quickly into name calling.
The people who defend the Chinese Communist Party must be fine with them murdering people and putting them into concentration camps.
I've already said I've read the thread, are you going to talk about WMDs again?
No, though Google Play Services etc. would still need to be I guess.