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Hulk doesn't need to see through walls when he can just do this:
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Hulk or Superman: you have to hide for 30 seconds, who do you pick to hide from?
- Thread starter Chrome Hyena
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Hulk doesn't need to see through walls when he can just do this:
And Superman... can't?
Yeah, this is a dumb question. Hulk doesn't have x-ray vision or Super hearing. Or Superspeed. I'm probably dead both ways, but with one at least the angry god can't see me/hear me/stretch time out longer than a Hulk could with Superspeed. Supes could literally just get airborne in the area, find my dumb as and hit me with eye lasers.
From a power level rating Hulk and Supes are close enough to call it a wash even if Hulk is slightly stronger and more resilient to damage. I aint a threat to either so they may as well be equal.
Plus, even in the event that I did make it to 29.9 seconds alive Supes could just laser blast a large swath of area in hopes of maybe hitting me with some spray and pray.
From a power level rating Hulk and Supes are close enough to call it a wash even if Hulk is slightly stronger and more resilient to damage. I aint a threat to either so they may as well be equal.
Plus, even in the event that I did make it to 29.9 seconds alive Supes could just laser blast a large swath of area in hopes of maybe hitting me with some spray and pray.
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I'd compare Hulk to a natural disaster, like an earthquake or tornadoes, it'll ravage a city or region real good but it's not extinction level usually. Superman losing it is an extinction-level global threat
Wolverines smell is better than Daredevils -- the guy whose only power is super-senses. They were tracking a killer together once and Wolverine tracked him before Daredevil even noticed. Logans senses are his most under-rated power -- he can fight in total darkness, find you a mile away, etc.
The only reason he wouldn't rank here is that he's not busting down buildings like Hulk or spotting you from space like Superman. If it was a 24-hour hunt situation, Logan would be one of the last folks you'd want to deal with
E - I couldn't find the hunting panels but I found this
I did like the X-men movies paid some tribute, like him sniffing out Mystique in the 1st one, hearing the helicopters coming to the mansion etc
Wolverines smell is better than Daredevils -- the guy whose only power is super-senses. They were tracking a killer together once and Wolverine tracked him before Daredevil even noticed. Logans senses are his most under-rated power -- he can fight in total darkness, find you a mile away, etc.
The only reason he wouldn't rank here is that he's not busting down buildings like Hulk or spotting you from space like Superman. If it was a 24-hour hunt situation, Logan would be one of the last folks you'd want to deal with
E - I couldn't find the hunting panels but I found this
I did like the X-men movies paid some tribute, like him sniffing out Mystique in the 1st one, hearing the helicopters coming to the mansion etc
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You could totally try that and maybe it'd momentarily confuse Superman, but in BvS it's not Superman that works on, it's Batman. (It is of course totally understandable to forget BvS, especially that part).
What works on angry Superman in Justice League (when the entire rest of the superheroes in that movie are struggling to survive) is the arrival of Lois Lane, so anyone who can arrange that would surely be better off picking Superman. Shouting "Martha" though, is probably only going to give away your position in the unlikely event that Superman didn't already know where you were.
Where would any of you hide in 30 seconds?
Superman will find you right at 30 second mark. Hulk will crush whatever or wherever you are hiding.
Superman will find you right at 30 second mark. Hulk will crush whatever or wherever you are hiding.
Superman wants me because he thinks I killed Lois, Hulk wants me because he thinks I'm an asshole.
Superman has super enhanced senses, super speed, X-Ray vision, and thinks I killed his wife. Hulk thinks I'm a jerk.
I'm hiding from the Hulk. It'd literally be easier to talk down the Hulk in the scenario. And it'd be harder for him to find me assuming he's not going to molt and transform into another version of Hulk with the sixth sense or some shit.
Superman has super enhanced senses, super speed, X-Ray vision, and thinks I killed his wife. Hulk thinks I'm a jerk.
I'm hiding from the Hulk. It'd literally be easier to talk down the Hulk in the scenario. And it'd be harder for him to find me assuming he's not going to molt and transform into another version of Hulk with the sixth sense or some shit.
Hiding? From Hulk
Surviving? From Superman, you could still argue with him for 30 seconds, like, pull a Lex Luthor or something :v
Surviving? From Superman, you could still argue with him for 30 seconds, like, pull a Lex Luthor or something :v
Hulk doesn't need to see through walls when he can just do this:
I mean if he picks a random direction and starts Hulking his way through the walls, he's got like a 25% of chance of getting you.
The point is Superman always has a 100% chance of finding you.
No offense but this is about the dumbest matchup you could have possibly provided.
One can see though walls, is just as strong as the other but can also fly, and move at the speed of light. He could literally search every possible place you could be in less than .01 seconds and not use his xray vision. Oh, he also has laser beams that can cut through anything and can freeze the entire area so he wouldnt even need to move to kill you.
May as well of pitted Dare Devil against Supes its so lop sided in this situation.
One can see though walls, is just as strong as the other but can also fly, and move at the speed of light. He could literally search every possible place you could be in less than .01 seconds and not use his xray vision. Oh, he also has laser beams that can cut through anything and can freeze the entire area so he wouldnt even need to move to kill you.
May as well of pitted Dare Devil against Supes its so lop sided in this situation.
That's not how math works..25%?? Maybe if he's about 1,000 feet thick.
He can find you multiple ways- hear your heartbeat, your footsteps, your breathing, your eyelids blinking, your blood circulating. That's just one sense. He could smell you. He could probably taste you on the air. He has ifrared vision for god sakes.
Does the Hulk have super-senses of any kind?
Easily Hulk. Superman has super senses and is intelligent enough to figure out where you are. With Hulk...I guess I'd hide in a sewer or a basement or something? I dunno
My favourite part of that Hulk gif is that it's depicting someone escaping from the Hulk with an injured ankle.
Most hulk can sense gamma radiation
Current hulk who is Devil/Immortal Hulk has some weird sixth sense but that just seems to tell him when there's trouble Bruce should deal with but i think it's just gamma sense
Really i don't he does
MCU Hulk, pre-Endgame, is very primal. Provided you have a "few second head start," you could just hide out of sight of him, maybe somewhere above him, and wait him out. He's not a very intelligent character in the movies.Hulk doesn't need to see through walls when he can just do this:
Superman is not a genius, but he is smarter than the average human. Much smarter than MCU Hulk. He's also faster; DCCU Superman is fast enough to catch The Flash try to sneak up on him.
I mean, I don't think it's a contest.
I'm guessing that was Clark specifically paying attention to Lois who was meeting a warlord and probably wasn't far off
Comic Superman does pay attention to natural disasters around the world
How quickly Superman could kill you is entirely his choice. It's not out of the question that an angry Superman might drag things out. The version of Superman we're talking about here is the one from BvS/Justice League, and in Justice League, when Lois Lane arrives to stop him crushing the rest of the League, he's floating calmly in the air, holding Batman in a vice grip by the bottom of his face (not his throat, literally just the lower 20% or so of his head). He's exerting slow pressure and Batman is struggling even to speak. When Lois arrives, Superman "stops" this not by putting Batman down, but by casually tossing him away like a rag-doll.
So instant death is really not a guarantee with (this version of) angry Superman.
Hulk doesn't really kill people though. I think he's only canonically killed like 1 person in his history.
Walls (usually, thought admittedly not always) come in sets of four. If the Hulk goes Hulking off through a wall and you're not behind that wall, odds are he's going to keep on keeping on in whatever direction he's chosen, as you probably noticed from those videos of him running through like 10-20 walls in a row before he thinks to change directions.
I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt and assuming if he manages to choose the right cardinal direction he can handle the rest.
Assuming both are completely pissed, you're boned either way.
Superman can just instantly end you and detect you with X-Ray vision, super senses, etc. There's not much in the way of hiding from him.
As for Hulk...well, as mentioned, he doesn't even have to find or see you to kill you. He could just collapse a building on you or cause the earth to open up and swallow you among other things.
(Your chances are better with Hulk, but it's matter of just HOW pissed he is and if he can be distracted.)
Superman can just instantly end you and detect you with X-Ray vision, super senses, etc. There's not much in the way of hiding from him.
As for Hulk...well, as mentioned, he doesn't even have to find or see you to kill you. He could just collapse a building on you or cause the earth to open up and swallow you among other things.
(Your chances are better with Hulk, but it's matter of just HOW pissed he is and if he can be distracted.)
This is probably a retcon but yeah canon wise until the recent run (though that's a different hulk from classic so technically classic hulk never killed and so do most hulks currently in Banner i don't think they ever killed anyone) hulk has never killed anyone
Fake edit: he killed 2 people depending on which hulks iirc
Also i guess he killed some monsters like Xenmu if they count
It's ridiculous but the idea was a combination of hulk sometimes being a big kid that's not really malicious just likes throwing tantrums, heroic so they don't kill that applies to even some bad hulks Devil Hulk is the only that killed but every other time he pretty much just punishes people by leaving them broken and goes out his way to not kill them but make them suffer.
Also the canon explanation whicg is ridiculous and exists so hulk isn't a monster is that Banner basically subconsciously held back the hulks to stop them from killing
Except Devil hulk who doesn't even kill except one time but he can't control him
Except Joe is the grey hulk, and Devil Hulk is more of an Easter egg until Immortal Hulk so the book is still out on him, though I agree with Sampson when after Devil gives his long ass destroy the human world speech he just replies "so your the green Hulk" Only difference really is Banner has given Devil the go ahead and decided to work within the system instead of fighting it so the Hulk killing is on the table, even though it used to not be, due to banner's subconscious control I guess is the going theory in Immortal.
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I don't think he ever had control over Devil, Devil killed before Bruce decided to work with him
Devil also seems to prefer more poetic or karmic punishment than actual killing even his destroy the world plans is more smashing corrupt systems and companies than any killing.
No I don't think he had control, just that with him in tandem it's not even a question, any Hulk is more dangerous now.
as for Devil, I think that was Sampson's point, his end goals haven't really changed, it's just instead of being a childlike being looking for peace, he is a cold, calculated, highly intelligent with a streak of cruelty being that actually could accomplish his goals ( An end to human fuckery and to be left in peace).
If you pissed off Supes to the tune that he wants you dead...to borrow a quote "Omae wa mou shindeiru."
With MCU Hulk, you may have a chance.
Other versions of the hulk? Your survival may vary. Joe Fixit, you're dead. The more rage-y Hulks, you may be able to get out of the way.
With MCU Hulk, you may have a chance.
Other versions of the hulk? Your survival may vary. Joe Fixit, you're dead. The more rage-y Hulks, you may be able to get out of the way.
What's our starting position, OP? Are we taking off in our current locations? Regardless, I'm still picking Hulk. Superman has x-ray vision, is ludicrously fast, and can fly for a higher vantage point.
Unless my few seconds hard start is allow me to summon Kryptonite into my hand to defend myself. Hulk because Superman is OP as balls.
It doesn't matter if he's not "smart." Hulk is still 100x faster than you, and if he has you as a target, then the only thing on his mind is "kill."
You basically have a heat-seeker on steroids.
But Superman is 100x faster than Hulk, plus has x-ray vision and super hearing.
Both are likely to find you within 30 seconds if you're anywhere in the radius. Supes because of his extra-sensory powers and Hulk will just fuck up so much shit that you'll probably end up dead from the carnage anyway. Question is which one can be more easily talked down I suppose. If Supes is convinced you killed Lois, good luck with that one. You can wish upon a star that Hulk spares you because you're a puny human and no threat.
Both could kill me with a sneeze (and that'd be overkill), so it comes down to which one can find me. Unless I have a lead-lined room handy, Supes flies into the sky and finds me with X-ray vision. Or he just tracks my heartbeat/breathing with his super-hearing.
So yeah, in this situation, I'm probably dead either way but Hulk clearly gives me the better odds.
So yeah, in this situation, I'm probably dead either way but Hulk clearly gives me the better odds.
Hulk. He doesn't have the brains and hes not exactly a hunter like wolverine
He also cant fly or move and supersonic speed or have xray vision
Id still die but atleast id have some fighting chance
He also cant fly or move and supersonic speed or have xray vision
Id still die but atleast id have some fighting chance
That's my plan, I'd just get on a plane. Pretty sure most Hulks can't jump 35,000 feet.
