Humble Monthly is becoming Humble Choice - December 6th

Deleted member 48897 · Oct 18, 2019

SapientWolf said:
I'm thinking that they have to step up their game now due to XBox Game Pass on PC.

That's so weird because this is a worsening of the service for the price and because I feel like this was (admittedly not an uncontroversial opinion incoming) the better option to gamepass because you could quit the subscription and still have access to the games you got from the service. But then I just have a strong inherent bias against rent-seeking and am frustrated to see it creeping into more parts of society.

davepoobond · Oct 18, 2019

i dont actually get what's happening.

is it the same thing, just all revealed up front, or is there some sort of "choosing" involved from a larger array of games?

Deleted member 31817 · Oct 18, 2019

Wait how is classic cheaper than premium what

Madjoki · Oct 18, 2019

Psychoward said:
Wait how is classic cheaper than premium what

Because it won't be available after the switch, it's only for existing subs. A way to trap you into 'permanent' sub.

Deleted member 401 · Oct 18, 2019

Psychoward said:
Wait how is classic cheaper than premium what

Classic is only for those already subscribed. Once Choice launches, Classic will no longer be available for new buyers.

zulux21 · Oct 18, 2019

davepoobond said:
i dont actually get what's happening.

is it the same thing, just all revealed up front, or is there some sort of "choosing" involved from a larger array of games?

There will be a pool of games (most likely 10, but maybe more) if you are on the $15 sub you will get to choose 3, the $20 sub choose 9 and... see below

Psychoward said:
Wait how is classic cheaper than premium what

Classic is only for people who are subbed during the monthly and remain subbed indefinitely you can't get on it after you let your sub lapse. Classic is the same price as monthly and lets you choose 10 games.

ShinUltramanJ · Oct 18, 2019

zulux21 said:
Why wouldn't they. The basic sub is still $15 (only $5 cheaper than the elite sub)

basic = sub for people currently jumping month to month
classic = sub for people who have subbed all the time
elite = sub for people who jump month to month but have fomo :P

I feel like it would hurt sales of the Premium sub. I've subbed plenty of times, and there's never been a month where I wanted everything they revealed.
Three games sounds about what I'd normally keep for myself before selling the rest.

Inugami · Oct 18, 2019

I just subbed for the first time this month... Trying to scare me into staying subbed is kind of having the opposite effect though... I'll think about it though, only because at least this sub you get to keep your games instead of them being just rentals.

Serpens007 · Oct 18, 2019

So if I sub now, I'll be able to keep the classic sub after, but I won't be able to cancel it ?

SapientWolf · Oct 18, 2019

muteKi said:
That's so weird because this is a worsening of the service for the price and because I feel like this was (admittedly not an uncontroversial opinion incoming) the better option to gamepass because you could quit the subscription and still have access to the games you got from the service. But then I just have a strong inherent bias against rent-seeking and am frustrated to see it creeping into more parts of society.

I was thinking that they plan on injecting more semi-recent AAA games into the service and need the guaranteed revenue to prevent it from going upside down in profit.

Every other aspect is objectively worse, which is why they wisely chose to let people keep their current plan.

zulux21 · Oct 18, 2019

ShinUltramanJ said:
I feel like it would hurt sales of the Premium sub. I've subbed plenty of times, and there's never been a month where I wanted everything they revealed.
Three games sounds about what I'd normally keep for myself before selling the rest.

under this change you would still be paying $3 more to get those 3 games, thus why I said that tier was for people who only sub sometimes.

The goal for humble would be to get people to perm sub (classic) and get as few games as possible per $ (the basic sub) as they have to pay money for the keys. So while yes if there are only 3 $60 games and the rest are $15 indies the $60 games will be far more likely to get picked and likely cost more per key. odds are the $5 difference between the two tiers is about the cost of the other 6 keys, and they don't give out a 20% discount then only a 10% which will let them keep a higher percent of sales on their store. They want people perm subbed though as that's a steady income that doesn't fluctuate much that they can count on.

Kilbane65 · Oct 18, 2019

Spyware said:
More like sub Lite during a good sale, buy some games you have been eyeing and get an extra 10% off, grab all the Trove games, unsub until next good sale when more Trove games have been added.

Maximum Efficiency! I like it.
I wonder now how often those Trove games get shuffled around. How long would it take to replace like 80%+ of the titles in it?

zulux21 · Oct 18, 2019

Kilbane65 said:
Maximum Efficiency! I like it.
I wonder now how often those Trove games get shuffled around. How long would it take to replace like 80%+ of the titles in it?

they are pretty stagnant. I don't recall many getting removed, and they add maybe 10 a year or so. but I also don't watch it that closely. As while I like small indie games I have a billion of them to play already lol.

Kilbane65 · Oct 18, 2019

zulux21 said:
they are pretty stagnant. I don't recall many getting removed, and they add maybe 10 a year or so. but I also don't watch it that closely. As while I like small indie games I have a billion of them to play already lol.

Yeah I don't usually pay attention to the Trove. Last time I used it was to grab a bunch of games for the kid's laptop so they could play some offline during their last vacation trip.

Forsaken82 · Oct 18, 2019

Instro said:
Basically trying to stop people from subbing only when they really want to lol.

It's smart...

Spyware · Oct 18, 2019

As long as they let you pause I think it would be quite silly to not to sub now and start pausing if things are not interesting enough, that is if you are in any way interested in the kind of games Monthly had had before for that price. If pausing ever goes away you could just cancel at that point.

I bet they are counting on a bunch of people forgetting to pause tho.

Kyuuji · Oct 18, 2019

I don't own a gaming rig atm and likely won't for a couple of years but subbed for this. At the very least £9 for Spyro and Crash are good for this month and see what the choice is like when it starts. Will see how things go but could be a nice way to pad the library between now and then.

PunchDrunk28 · Oct 18, 2019

I've been a sub since the beginning of Monthly, I have just been seeing the early unlocks, if I like them, then I don't pause. I have been pausing a lot more lately, and I haven't decided if I want this October bunch or not quite yet.

mercenar1e · Oct 18, 2019

So it's 10 games every month or 10 games for the year?

manchego obfuscator · Oct 18, 2019

the messaging has been unclear but they confirmed they're starting with a pool of 10 games/month, meaning that "Choice" won't apply to Classic members, at least at first. still two more games per month than we've been getting, and having them revealed upfront means it'll be easy to decide whether or not to pause

zulux21 · Oct 18, 2019

mercenar1e said:
So it's 10 games every month or 10 games for the year?

each month

manchego obfuscator said:
the messaging has been unclear but they confirmed they're starting with a pool of 10 games/month, meaning that "Choice" won't apply to Classic members, at least at first. still two more games per month than we've been getting, and having them revealed upfront means it'll be easy to decide whether or not to pause

oh look, it's exactly what I've been saying >.>

hersheyfan · Oct 18, 2019

Wow, just woke up to this in my email.

I'm a yearly sub atm, I don't mind paying the old rate again next year. Getting an extra game and being able to see all the available games for the month for the same price sounds good, and I'm optimistic that the higher sticker price for "ala carte" purchases will drive the quality of the games in the monthly drops upward. After all, who's paying 20 bucks outright for a bad selection?

And since you still have the right to pause, you can outright nope out of any bad months without worrying that you'll miss out on something good.

My only worry: I have a feeling that giving us the option to choose will lead to IGN/Humble sticking UPlay, Origin and EGS keys/activations among the selections, further down the line. Calling this now.

Spyware · Oct 18, 2019

hersheyfan said:
My only worry: I have a feeling that giving us the option to choose will lead to IGN/Humble sticking UPlay, Origin and EGS keys/activations among the selections, further down the line. Calling this now.

Yeah this is what I said too. They already had Assassin's Creed Origins on Uplay as their main game for May this year so it's very likely it will be like that.

Ionic · Oct 18, 2019

Spyware said:
Yeah this is what I said too. They already had Assassin's Creed Origins on Uplay as their main game for May this year so it's very likely it will be like that.

I think we we'll see EGS games get Humble'd very shortly before the year contract is up for them and they hit Steam.

Renteka-Bond · Oct 18, 2019

As someone who's been with the service intermittently from the start (pausing here and there), this is a net buff to me. Now I don't have to wait til the end of the month to know I don't want the games that month for fear of missing out on something good.

Darknight · Oct 18, 2019

I think everyone remotely interested in this should consider jumping on the first month. I have a gut feeling that the first month of this is going to be really good just to launch and attract people to the new service.

TubaZef · Oct 18, 2019

No more leftovers for Giftbot

zulux21 · Oct 18, 2019

Ionic said:
I think we we'll see EGS games get Humble'd very shortly before the year contract is up for them and they hit Steam.

Hell it would make a lot of sense for everyone involved if a game like borderlands 3 hit the humble monthly around the same time it hit Steam.

it would allow them to put it on a massive discount to drive people to the epic store without actually having it on sale on the store.
and it would lock everyone who gets it from the humble monthly into buying the DLC from the epic store (which is a $50 pass) And those who hate the epic store will still buy it from the steam store at full price.

Darknight said:
I think everyone remotely interested in this should consider jumping on the first month. I have a gut feeling that the first month of this is going to be really good just to launch and attract people to the new service.

from the comments they have made, if it launches this year it sounds like the 3rd month or so will be the good one... but I mean... you will know what is in the bundle anyway so you don't have to jump on anything o.O

Qikz · Oct 18, 2019

water_wendi said:
Its a great promotion.

How is it a great promotion though, it's completely anti consumer in every possible way.

UltraJay · Oct 18, 2019

Do you stay on Classic if you are on a month to month subscription?

zulux21 · Oct 18, 2019

UltraJay said:
Do you stay on Classic if you are on a month to month subscription?

as long as you never cancel and just pause. if you ever cancel you will lose access to classic.

ShinUltramanJ · Oct 18, 2019

hersheyfan said:
My only worry: I have a feeling that giving us the option to choose will lead to IGN/Humble sticking UPlay, Origin and EGS keys/activations among the selections, further down the line. Calling this now.

That would fine with me. I'm all for these other launchers following Steam's path.

thediamondage · Oct 18, 2019

not a real fan, it was nice unsubbing for a while and then resubbing when something i really wanted popped up. i guess this really stabilizes their monthly sub income a lot more, so i can understand.

still, i'll stay on the $12/mo until i feel like a month has real junk then i'll probably unsub forever, the diff between $12 and $20 is a bit too high.

ironically i subbed only a few days ago to get spyro/crash, and then when i saw the reviews i realized it was getting (rightfully) review bombed for being owned by activision-blizzard and the whole china debacle. all kinda interesting.

Spyware · Oct 18, 2019

thediamondage said:
not a real fan, it was nice unsubbing for a while and then resubbing when something i really wanted popped up. i guess this really stabilizes their monthly sub income a lot more, so i can understand.

still, i'll stay on the $12/mo until i feel like a month has real junk then i'll probably unsub forever, the diff between $12 and $20 is a bit too high.

ironically i subbed only a few days ago to get spyro/crash, and then when i saw the reviews i realized it was getting (rightfully) review bombed for being owned by activision-blizzard and the whole china debacle. all kinda interesting.

You can pause and keep the $12 plan, no need to pay every month if you don't like the games. The only difference from unsubbing is that you have to remember to pause it every month.

Mezentine · Oct 18, 2019

So as a current subscriber I just...keep the same service?

Kay

Mezentine · Oct 18, 2019

I will say for $20 a month their game selection needs to improve. I've been an unbroken subscriber because every month, with one or two exceptions, has had something I wanted to play for $12, but at $20 new subscribers are going to want to see some more sizzle

Darknight · Oct 18, 2019

zulux21 said:
from the comments they have made, if it launches this year it sounds like the 3rd month or so will be the good one... but I mean... you will know what is in the bundle anyway so you don't have to jump on anything o.O

Well you'd have to jump in now to get the $12 rate is what I mean. What comments have they made to indicate the third month will be the better month?

zulux21 · Oct 18, 2019

Darknight said:
Well you'd have to jump in now to get the $12 rate is what I mean. What comments have they made to indicate the third month will be the better month?

that they are going to increase how much they are spending to get games next year to improve the selection for Choice.

Stoze · Oct 18, 2019

Is it confirmed that pausing your current/"Classic" subscription won't downgrade it to a "Basic" subscription?

If so then this just seems straight up way better.

Darknight · Oct 18, 2019

zulux21 said:
that they are going to increase how much they are spending to get games next year to improve the selection for Choice.

Ah. You'd think they would have planned this up front for the relaunch. I wonder why they didn't plan around this.

zulux21 · Oct 18, 2019

Darknight said:
Ah. You'd think they would have planned this up front for the relaunch. I wonder why they didn't plan around this.

Well they are aiming for a 2019 launch... which given how much is left of the year would put it in competition with the steam winter sale (in which time the humble bundles usually dry up as bundles tend to be bad for business during the major steam sales)

They likely are banking on people subbing to the "classic" and sticking around to see the first few, and will boost the quality as people start thinking about quitting.

We have seen time and time again with the monthly all they really have to do is have a quality month and people will show up again.

asmith906 · Oct 18, 2019

So if I'm currently subbed there's no change right

zulux21 · Oct 18, 2019

asmith906 said:
So if I'm currently subbed there's no change right

when it switches over you will start getting 10 games a month, and they will all be revealed right away. (and there is a chance some months you may have to choose 10 of more than 10 games.

FreezePeach · Oct 18, 2019

Wait, so i have the 12 month yearly plan right now with like month left to go. I get charged yearly. Where the hell do i land on this?

Catshade · Oct 18, 2019

I'm not anti-subscription, but the major advantage about 'keep your games forever' is, ironically, you can sell the games you don't want/already have to lower the cost down.

Princess Bubblegum · Oct 18, 2019

I don't think it's apt to compare this to services like Game Pass, since you have permanent ownership of the games.

zulux21 · Oct 18, 2019

FreezePeach said:
Wait, so i have the 12 month yearly plan right now with like month left to go. I get charged yearly. Where the hell do i land on this?

when you get to your renewal date you will be charged for another year unless you cancel at the same rate making each month still $11.

FreezePeach · Oct 18, 2019

zulux21 said:
when you get to your renewal date you will be charged for another year unless you cancel at the same rate making each month still $11.

Thanks. Them listing only monthly price confused me.

soundtrack · Oct 18, 2019

I've always been intrigued by Humble Monthly but their scare tactic is actually getting to me and I'm considering subscribing lol.

Someone explain pausing to me. You have the choice to "pause" your subscription once the next games are revealed? And it automatically renews the next month? This seems like a huge loophole and they'll easily remove it since they're removing the Classic option once this new service starts anyway.

Zombegoast · Oct 18, 2019

This is stupid.

All they're doing is making the service more expensive.

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