Two polish resellers are currently listing Hunt: Showdown as an EGS title, the game is currently available to purchase on Steam in Early Access, 1.0 is expected to hit the stores on August 20th.
Guess like many other developers they are making the choice to have less people play their game and have epic pay them lots of money...game already doesn't have a huge population, it's going to be even more DOA as a result
game already doesn't have a huge population, it's going to be even more DOA as a result
Might just be that they've done a deal with Epic to only sell the Steam version on Steam directly going forward, and third party key sellers would be EGS codes.
I would guess not but they can remove it from steam for any future buyers I think.The fact that you can already buy and play this on Steam (and have been able to for ages - I can't remember when I bought it... a year ago maybe?) means that it wouldn't be an Epic exclusive surely? Steam aren't going to remove it from your account?
Might just be that they've done a deal with Epic to only sell the Steam version on Steam directly going forward, and third party key sellers would be EGS codes.
In previous instances when games were removed from Steam, like when EA took down their products to sell them on Origin instead, they didn't remove the games from people's accounts, they were just made unavailable for further sales.The fact that you can already buy and play this on Steam (and have been able to for ages - I can't remember when I bought it... a year ago maybe?) means that it wouldn't be an Epic exclusive surely? Steam aren't going to remove it from your account?
In previous instances when games were removed from Steam, like when EA took down their products to sell them on Origin instead, they didn't remove the games from people's accounts, they were just made unavailable for further sales.
iirc, all games that were removed (Metro: Exodus, for example) still get updates just fine. it's ''only'' removed from future sales.I guess at a massive stretch, they could say "We are not going to be updating the Steam version any more (for 12 months). We will offer a refund to all purchasers, waiving the usual Steam refund restrictions, and we're going to be Epic exclusive for 12 months".
But I think that would be even worse PR than any of the other Epic exclusive announcements we've had so far. I think it would be utterly toxic for all parties involved. I wouldn't want to rule it out 100%, but not far off.
That's true, although the difference is that it wasn't such a large window of time on Steam before it got pulled, and it wasn't an early access game.iirc, all games that were removed (Metro: Exodus, for example) still get updates just fine. it's ''only'' removed from future sales.
I guess at a massive stretch, they could say "We are not going to be updating the Steam version any more (for 12 months). We will offer a refund to all purchasers, waiving the usual Steam refund restrictions, and we're going to be Epic exclusive for 12 months".
But I think that would be even worse PR than any of the other Epic exclusive announcements we've had so far. I think it would be utterly toxic for all parties involved. I wouldn't want to rule it out 100%, but not far off.
does epic even want non-exclusives?Lol what is this clickbait title? There's not a single shred of evidence to support exclusivity. The game is most likely coming out on the EGS.
Well we've seen plenty of devs happy to sacrifice players in exchange for Epic's bags of money.They need the Steam audience to keep the population floating. This would be suicide.
Not really lol. If it's not a kickstarter game or coming soon on steam it probably wont be an exclusive.
Well we've seen plenty of devs happy to sacrifice players in exchange for Epic's bags of money.
but it was an EA game. yes, one could argue the money they're receiving is so much they would do it, but it doesn't make sense. it would be already bad if it was removed from 1.0 forwards, but cutting all manner of update would be the dumbest PR move ever. this is a game that lives and dies by it's population. it isn't a rocket league type of thing where they already have gargantuan amounts of players to just ignore newer ones.That's true, although the difference is that it wasn't such a large window of time on Steam before it got pulled, and it wasn't an early access game.
Metro Exodus was not an early access game.but it was an EA game. yes, one could argue the money they're receiving is so much they would do it, but it doesn't make sense. it would be already bad if it was removed from 1.0 forwards, but cutting all manner of update would be the dumbest PR move ever. this is a game that lives and dies by it's population. it isn't a rocket league type of thing where they already have gargantuan amounts of players to just ignore newer ones.
it just feels to me this is just a deal for retail boxes. we'll see.
And Ubisoft games, although those are "exclusive as a 3rd party store."They've definitely done loads of them. Subnautica and it's spin-off, Vampire the Masquerade 2. Pretty much all of the free titles they give away that then just become part of the store (so things like Limbo, Torchlight, Super Meat Boy, Edith Finch, Moonlighter, Alan Wake etc).
ie not exclusive.And Ubisoft games, although those are "exclusive as a 3rd party store."
Right, we were discussing non exclusives, thanks?
oh, i expressed myself wrongly. i was just talking about Hunt. what i'm trying to say is that Hunt being EA is an argument that it doesn't make sense for such a deal(no updates moving forward, removing it from the store)to happen. Would be a disaster, unless Epic is giving Crytek an obscene amount of money.Metro Exodus was not an early access game.
I very much agree this is unlikely, given how much of a PR disaster it would be, I'm just trying to theorise possible explanations for what they could be doing with Epic.
Meanwhile, Koch Media will be handling Hunt: Showdown's physical distribution for PC, Xbox, and PS4, for all those players who want to own a physical copy of the game.
"Joining forces with Crytek for this amazing multiplayer game is exciting for everybody in the Koch Media family," said Koch Media's Head of Marketing Stephan Schmidt "The proven track record of the team in the FPS genre and the unique approach to multiplayer gaming gives us confidence that Hunt not only fits perfectly in our broad line up, but also serves a strong need in the market for fresh ideas. The close cooperation of the team with the community ever since the first release fuel the motivation of our global Koch Media teams, and we will support this title with all our experience in the retail market."
the only competitive store epic cares about is steam, so i think when discussing EGS exclusives it can be read as "not on steam"
Yeah I was just mocking the ridiculous kinda language Epic use, not your accurate application of it.
Yeah this seems like it's what's going on.This is pretty much guaranteed to be just for the retail release. Koch Media - best known for the Deep Silver publishing division - is handling the physical distribution, as they've mentioned in this press release: