You didn't even complain about the narrator lol. Don't worry this isn't the DBZ thread we're mostly civil here.
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Hunter x Hunter |OT| Calling x All x Hunters
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Very close to how I feel, I like it too.
I don't even know how they would do it without it.
Lets not forget this was just the first 10 sec lol :
Yeah honestly it would really damage the arc if the narrator isn't there. I watched this video just now and it really shows you why that is. I feel like most of Morel's fights in particular would be hurt by this.
Last question, what about Gon sacrifice to avenge Kite?
You probably only watched the anime version so you are missing how important Kite really was in Gon life and dream. I always wonder if anime only watchers felt the whole thing was too forced or an exaggeration on Gon's part.
What do you think?
You probably only watched the anime version so you are missing how important Kite really was in Gon life and dream. I always wonder if anime only watchers felt the whole thing was too forced or an exaggeration on Gon's part.
What do you think?
Nah, i understand when people might not like something xD,unlike some fandoms :/
2011 undersells it a lot for whoever saw 1999 tbh :/
all the difficulty to get to her made it up for her brokenness imo, but my bullshit tolerance is high
I never really had much of a problem with Gon's attachment to Kite. That boy gets way too friendly with people too fast so it's well within his character let alone Kite being his soul connection with his dad until he meets him. The whole thing makes sense that too many people like to complain about. Gon tries to befriend a serial killer and I never really got the feeling that Kite wasn't with Gon for a few weeks before Pitou did her thing as well.
So due to having to protect the kids Kite loses his arm immediately against Pitou which severely nerfs him for the fight and he's at a major disadvantage.
However one thing I noticed is that the weapon he got was a low number plus it didn't really look all that useful but he still was able to damage her a bit as she had cuts on her body.
I wonder what would've happened if...
1. He didn't lose his arm at the beginning.
2. He got a lucky 7.
That said I feel like what happened was natural for Gon even though we only got a few flashbacks of Kite. Buuut yeah they really undersold that in the 2011 anime and I feel that part was lacking just a tad for me to invest entirely into it I admit. I think would helped me invest was Kite is a fucking badass, I really love him lol. I'm so sad he got cut up so soon cause i like his design and demeanor. Watched a few more episodes and apparently he's a little girl now so I guess I'll see where that goes. (no spoilers plz)
That said...I do have a question about Kite so I'll put this above this comment right here.
However one thing I noticed is that the weapon he got was a low number plus it didn't really look all that useful but he still was able to damage her a bit as she had cuts on her body.
I wonder what would've happened if...
1. He didn't lose his arm at the beginning.
2. He got a lucky 7.
I did a little research so I ended up finding out a little bit about what Kite meant to Gon but I feel like I should probably go watch a little bit of the 1999 anime so I can get a bigger picture.
That said I feel like what happened was natural for Gon even though we only got a few flashbacks of Kite. Buuut yeah they really undersold that in the 2011 anime and I feel that part was lacking just a tad for me to invest entirely into it I admit. I think would helped me invest was Kite is a fucking badass, I really love him lol. I'm so sad he got cut up so soon cause i like his design and demeanor. Watched a few more episodes and apparently he's a little girl now so I guess I'll see where that goes. (no spoilers plz)
That said...I do have a question about Kite so I'll put this above this comment right here.
I think even peak Kite would've lost to Pitou to be honest. Best thing about Kite is that he's voiced by Char Aznable.
Watch the first episodeof 99 anime, Kite isbasically the reason Gon is a hunter now(half of it lol)
one issue of the 2011 anime is that, just like FMA and FMA:Brotherhood, the newer anime assumes you've seen the old one.
He had no chance against Pitou, Gon thought he did but it was the guilt talking
He got a good roll, whatever that magic wand does it must be pretty powerfull. But Kite never had a chance, Pitou is in another level.
Kite would have to be Netero level to win and at best he's like top spider level, and that's nowhere even close (they are like ants lol compared to Netero/Pitou).
I don't think Gon would have treated Killua like he did if Kite was just a recent friend, he felt very personal about it and that only makes full sense if you know that Kite was really Gon first father figure.
Having him cut from the first episode really hurts the overall pain that Gon was in, and undersells it a bit.
Yes I admit this is true, but I never felt that it was as big of a complaint that people make it out to be. I'll admit it deserved more than to be said in a flashback, but I still felt that Gon's rage felt earned regarding this.
Hmm. So that wand thing is a good roll? Guess that changes perspective a bit, part of me thinks the mysterious 7 one that is never mentioned might be his strongest though. That's just me speculating but generally on a slot machine 7 is the best thing you can get.
Now I do think he is at a disadvantage regardless but part of me also thinks that him losing his arm was a handicap and it wasn't entirely impossible for him to win. We've seen throughout this arc that experience trumps power sometimes and Pitou at this time was still pretty fresh.
She also claims satisfication in that she's strong afterwards so I doubt she would claim that if she wasn't tested to some degree.
I think Kite with an arm it was about 70:30 situation in Pitou's favor judging by showings. He might've been able to escape with experience despite her nen.
Now I do think he is at a disadvantage regardless but part of me also thinks that him losing his arm was a handicap and it wasn't entirely impossible for him to win. We've seen throughout this arc that experience trumps power sometimes and Pitou at this time was still pretty fresh.
She also claims satisfication in that she's strong afterwards so I doubt she would claim that if she wasn't tested to some degree.
I think Kite with an arm it was about 70:30 situation in Pitou's favor judging by showings. He might've been able to escape with experience despite her nen.
No, that fight is bad news regardless. Experience helps, but you can't really brute force a Royal Guard unless you're Gon-san and that was a suicide move.
Pitou was crazy strong. One of the points of the saga is that power levels aren't the only way to win a fight thought. Kite might have done some good damage in a 1x1 scenario but he wasn't stronger than Pitou, he could even win that fight if the kids were not there, but it's a very very slim chance :/
For every 99 watched Kite is just that really awesome guy, he got a whole episode and is pretty much your introduction to the world, the themes of the series and what makes kid gon different from the other hunters and vice versa... i loved kite, i felt for him a lot, honestly, i love most of hxh's secondary characters but kite actually did stuff for the series lol
Removing him was dumb
Did you read the manga/watched 99? Most people won't care at all because they saw it, some, like me, can care about a character pretty quickly so it's not a big problem either, but some people need more time building that up to work...
For every 99 watched Kite is just that really awesome guy, he got a whole episode and is pretty much your introduction to the world, the themes of the series and what makes kid gon different from the other hunters and vice versa... i loved kite, i felt for him a lot, honestly, i love most of hxh's secondary characters but kite actually did stuff for the series lol
Removing him was dumb
I knew nothing of HxH until watching the 2011 series. They set up Kite as a character pretty well before he died in my opinion. I honestly think a lot of people watched HxH on a rather surface level or watched it only once. I have watched it about 4 times since 2016, it holds up on multiple viewings and the added context helps a lot. I don't even think I complained about Kite that much on my initial viewing. I just found the whole scenario heart breaking and it's even worse when you know more about what's going on.
Kite attack did more damage to Pitou than Netero palm, so it either wasn't physical based or was a last resort / all nen used attack.
Either way just it was just a few scratches, he never had a chance. Hisoka and Uvogin could have appeared from the bushes to help Kite and they still would have lost.
RG are too broken, their body are way too tough.
And then they had the great idea to add the scene of him giving Gon his dad license before Pitou fight, which pretty much telegraphed that Kite was gonna die.
At least since they already fucked it up they should have done that during the campfire part, don't ruin the damn brutal surprise.
Either way just it was just a few scratches, he never had a chance. Hisoka and Uvogin could have appeared from the bushes to help Kite and they still would have lost.
RG are too broken, their body are way too tough.
And then they had the great idea to add the scene of him giving Gon his dad license before Pitou fight, which pretty much telegraphed that Kite was gonna die.
At least since they already fucked it up they should have done that during the campfire part, don't ruin the damn brutal surprise.
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Good to know xD, i couldn't have a feeling of how a newcomer would react cause all people i know either read or started with 99(or gave up before nen zzz). His intro in 99 makes him look like the coolest dude on earth tho... that series was great in charavter development, most fillers added something meaningful to them, only one that gets a bit wrong is killua cause (i believe) people didnt know where he'd get to then, so 2011 can wrote him better
damn yes lol that's the reddest of all flags
I was gonna jump in and say that's the only thing I feel they really fumbled in 2011 version, lol.
Removing Kite from the start and sorta change Gon's reason for being a Hunter... weird, but okay.
Then that moment in CA 2011 came along and it really felt like they were all "Oh fuck, we screwed up Kite never even gave Gon the license", "It's okay let's just randomly bring it up and have him give it to him now"
"But why didn't he give it to him earlier?", "Because he forgot, screw it just wing it man"
And doing it right before the attack was the most obvious death flag... could've been handled better.
Other than that the 2011 version nailed everything else, so at the end of the day we can't complain too much.
But the 99' does have a very cool "dark style/atmosphere" that i think the 2011 could have had at some points during the York New arc. It looks super cool during the 99' Chollo/Zeno fight.
2011 failed on the pacing of the beginning and i give some points for style in 99 color scheme, honestly, i wish 2011 as a whole was treated like CA arc and beyond, because i love the animation, character designs, and some artistic choices on key moments(both nail this though)
99 is rough on the edges but the anime is brimming with personality, they added some scenes with cool character moments that really help flesh out the series and get newcomers straight out loving everyone in a way thats much harder in the new one if the kiddy air puts them off
Really, that kiddy tone and fast pacing did a lot of bad to the series, even if 99s pacing was brutally slow thats something that really paid off in the end.
I say all this by being someone thats rewatching 99 this uear after having watched the entirety of 2011 some months ago, and im pretty sure its not nostalgia cause i didnt watch the dub.
Regardless, we're very spoiled to have two anime so good. Makes it very hard to decide which to show to people :/. I really wished we got 2011's peoduction value in 99 with some 99 filler removed(namely the girl that wanted to mirder killua arc, cause some of the rest actually kinda fit there)
I would say that 2011' is still a lot superior.
But if we could combine parts from the two i would go for 80% from 2011' with a sprinkling of 20% from the 99'.
This theme... man so good:
Im showing a friend 99 up to yorkshin and then gonna go 2011
Feels like the perfect split
Gonna show 2011s requiem too though
And then he said he just wanna watch both all the way(ignoring gi final and gi 99 of course)
He freakin loved the 99 old school jrpg soundtrack
I'm not a big fan of what I've seen from the '99 fillers as they add character development that doesn't always fit the official characterization in the manga. The tone for Yorknew is top-notch, however.
On the other hand, 2011 has some weird omissions, added scenes and random Leorio nerfs.
Only character that 99 made a bit OoC was killua... i understand why, when that anime came out CA wasnt even a thing, so you had to guess where he'd land, other than that they made leorio and gon much more likeable and kurapika had a smoother development.
I tried showing 2011 first to people and they just hated gon, 1999 made them sympathise with the boy much more... 2011 also omits that ging didnt leave him, mito took him away from ging, and that changes the perception of ging SO much, like why the fuck is gon even after him if he got thrown away like that...
It's that time of the year we pray togashi is going to give us the chapters?
Still about two weeks until any possible announcement, but again that's being generous.
Also, some of these new series need to get canned so there's room in the magazine. : p
Speak for yourself friend. I certainly wasn't crying for Mereum. I'm surprised you were in fact. You spend a large part of your post complaining about kids being killed, Mereum killed a kid and yet you cried for him at the end?
Personally, I was glad when he got got. Plenty of monsters in our own world have friends and loved ones. It doesn't mean they don't deserve to die.
To me things aren't black and white in this regard. Just because I condemn his actions elsewhere doesn't mean I can't also show sympathy either.
I figured for how long you spent on the kids thing in your review of the arc that you would be the last to be sympathetic to Meruem but to each his own.
I cry every time I watch it. I think his character arc from heartless power obsessed monster to man in love with frail blind girl who he bonds with over playing a board game is very touching. Through the arc he undergoes an enlightenment and realises what's truly important to him isn't the domination of the world from his birthright. When it gets to the point where he becomes blind due to radiation poisoning (ie. he and komugi are kinda equals) and they're holding hands still playing moves I'm an emotional wreck
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Dude he was basically a kid that had no idea of what he was doing and who he was eating, what is humanity, what does ethics mean, anything, he was just a sponge learning what the RG taught him... He was a dick, but he didn't know any better.
It's like hating on killua cause he was an assassin, he was raised that way, you don't change until you start getting other reference points. :/
I mean, meruem isn't a saint, but him learning all those things about humanity is just awesome to watch
Meruem was much more intelligent than your average kid.
Its nothing like Killua's situation, we had what lets see, the Hunter Exam, Zoldyck family, heaven's arena, York New, Greed Island and Chimera Ants to show Killua's growth and change. From the time we see Killua he expresses that he doesn't want to kill although he falters in that goal time and again.
Meruem on the other hand changes in around 30ish episodes? He doesn't even really change, he still planned to slaughter the human race. He only planned to let the absolute best of the best in their field like Netero and Komugi live.
Sorry, people are free to appreciate his growth and enjoy him as a character, its just IMO he died a dick. Being close to and caring for one person doesn't make you a good person or someone worthy of sympathy IMO.
This reminds me of GOT where some fans claim that Cersei is a "Good person" because she "loves" her kids, which ignores all of the other horrible shit she did. She certainly didn't extend that motherly love to Sansa when Joffrey was abusing her.
Perhaps if Meruem had more time to develop into a good person and I saw him doing more kind acts like how he did for Welfin and his growing understandings with Pouf and Youpi, I'd have more time for him.
But he died too quick and his newfound self wasn't far enough away from his past misdeeds for me to feel anything for him at the end.
Well, fair enough. I just think it's pretty tragic he'd never get the time to grow out of his dickish self and that's where most of my tears came from, he made a lot of progress in a short amount of time and i believe it could be something talked through if there wasn't extermination orders at hand.
The whole situation is tragic and complicated, humans would want justic and trade blood with blood, after all thousands of people either died or got antfied, some ants would still mess stuff around. You've got a shot at making peace with them but you need to retaliate because that's the definition of "justice" for a majority so the governments would rather kill all of them then trying to reaxh a cease fire and find a way to talk it through, and that's kind of what shows that humanity ain't that much better >_>
I just dont think it's fair talking about him as if he had no chance of improving or having no empathy for the little he learned in that time, but if it's a matter of time he got to develop then yeah i get these feelings, just think it's a bit harsh, just but harsh x)
When even Viz gets Woble's gender wrong. :p
Technically they are not wrong nor right, just making it confusing lol
edit: I'm dumb and need to sleep more my bad
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The "his" is referring to Woble, which is what they got wrong.
...I read it quickly and didn't notice the "his", my bad
Poor wobble >_>
Eh, I can see it a little after this:
But we still don't know what his plan is.
Though don't get me wrong. If he starts having his siblings killed one by one, I'll be right there with you lol.
I think he will, but will try to make it the last sucession warEh, I can see it a little after this:
But we still don't know what his plan is.
Though don't get me wrong. If he starts having his siblings killed one by one, I'll be right there with you lol.
Still want someone to get a hold of that damn urn.
Though who knows whether destroying it (if it can be destroyed at this point) would have any effect now.
I have this theory that fucking with the war might have worldwide consequences
Would be a nice way to start a DC arc already kicking stuff
That's thing it's probably like Ging box, with nen making it very tought. And with how many generations it was existed i probably would not be surprised if it has a condition to be indestructible as long as a Kakin royal remains.
The butler with the urn looks weird too, I wouldn't be surprised if he's a nen conjuration that enforces the will of the urn.
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Well I found out the other day they didn't make a new anime episode in ages so I guess that means I'll have to check out the manga. I was gonna do Shonen Jump but it seems HxH is not a part of their monthly plan and I'd have to buy volumes.
Guess that's not too bad though.
Guess that's not too bad though.
There wouldn't be enough material for years and this arc is looking as big if not bigger than the CA in terms of scale.
Sounds like Togashi might not even live long enough to complete this manga going by the current pacing.