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Hunter x Hunter |OT| Calling x All x Hunters
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Not if you remember that means 20 more years of endless hiatuses
We will see Tonpa before we see them again...maybe even Goreinu.
Gon is at the very least better at math than Narancia.Big brain Gon.
Narancia didn't get past middle school so it's really not that hard, and gon has a lot of time to study.
In some alternate universe HxH ends with Meruem yeeting Gon onto a gate.
And jojo part 5 ends with the gang eating pizza at Bruno's restaurant
Meeting their friendly gang next door commanded by Nero and playing some cards with Ghiacchio
I have a random question... Does the HxH anime ever use the word "energy"?
Me and my friend somehow got on the subject on the usage of the word "power" and "energy" for these kind of shows. He said energy sounds weird and is never used, it's always "power", and "energy" only used for DBZ. I'm like wat, I'm pretty sure I hear both used pretty much in any of these shows, they are interchangable in many instances. And becuase of this dumb argument I'm looking out for it now. I've noticed yu yu hakusho uses energy. What about HxH?
Me and my friend somehow got on the subject on the usage of the word "power" and "energy" for these kind of shows. He said energy sounds weird and is never used, it's always "power", and "energy" only used for DBZ. I'm like wat, I'm pretty sure I hear both used pretty much in any of these shows, they are interchangable in many instances. And becuase of this dumb argument I'm looking out for it now. I've noticed yu yu hakusho uses energy. What about HxH?
They use "Nen" which is a made up term exclusive to the HxH world.
YYH uses Reiki and Youki which the dub translates to spirit energy and demon energy.
Well that reminds me of partially how we got to the topic. We were talking about how "power"/"energy" are often used as generic terms alongside what the actual name of the magic system is. Like just because the magic in DBZ is called "ki" doesn't mean you wont hear them use "energy" every now and then. Or just because the magic in Naruto is called "chakra" doesn't mean you won't hear them use "power" sometimes.
At the dark tournament now
I'm pretty sure I've seen more YYH fights than HxH fights and I'm only at like ep 29
I'm pretty sure I've seen more YYH fights than HxH fights and I'm only at like ep 29
Examples of what I'm looking for in the usage of the words would be a line of dialogue like
"I can feel his aura", except replacing the word aura with the more "generic" terms "energy/power". (I feel like they're often used in these shows as interchangables simply to avoid too much repetition, but that's besides the point)
Another example
"he's building a lot of aura", except replacing aura with the other words.
"I can feel his aura", except replacing the word aura with the more "generic" terms "energy/power". (I feel like they're often used in these shows as interchangables simply to avoid too much repetition, but that's besides the point)
Another example
"he's building a lot of aura", except replacing aura with the other words.
Yeah, usually just used generically.
Ok there's a power drop. Now I need an energy drop to support my side smh. Though in this case I don't think energy would be as interchangable. Now "use your full energy" would sound weird.
oh i c
Though, again, used very generically.
Damn, this one put me on a rollercoaster... It got me thinking...
Like is he talking about "nen" energy? Or is he just talking about like, "normal" energy like how we call it irl? Uvo is mentioning here that he still has the energy to strike back after the punch, but it's not like his punch absorbs nen. Getting phsyically hurt doesn't mean your nen is getting drained, does it? Idk.
If I knew he was referring directly to "nen energy" then this would be exactly what I want.
Here's three-in-one.
Ok I'm gonna put this one in my evidence pile anyway, and I know this sounds frustratingly picky, but something about this being a technical breakdown of the relationship between "aura" and "nen", and not being as broad of a usage of the term, makes me feel this case can be argued against somehow.
I looked up the actual technical difference between power and energy, and energy is basically dormant/capacity, and power is the rate of producing or consuming energy.
So technically Uvo should be saying power here? 🤔 Or wait.... Idk... This is deep. (Not that the convo was about all of that, just about how it's used these stories)
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Oh duh... I forgot about all this. Thanks, this is going in the pile! Dunno if power would be interchangable here, but this is good anyway since this is directly referring to the "magic" as energy (which was my main point).
Togashi really likes his narrative that really loud quick to anger people have the gentlest hearts or whatever
Got through the Dark Tournament. Now this arc... This arc feels like HxH goodness. Gives me Yorknew vibes.
I don't know if I just missed this back then, but more from that interview, mostly on stuff pre-HxH:
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"Being with Shonen Jump from the beginning isn't something I can say with confidence."
So says Yoshihiro Togashi. But the truth is that, not only did he debut with Shonen Jump (with a manga serialized in their Weekly Shonen Jump Winter Special), but he continues to write and draw for them to this day, making him a Shonen Jump manga artist through and through.
"I always liked Shonen Jump even before my debut, and boys' comics in general, but my interests were also firmly rooted in Garo, Hana to Yume, and those types of magazines. The first manga job I ever submitted for consideration was for Weekly Young Jump (a magazine geared towards young adult males). There's a sort of yin and yang in me. The yang side led me to Shonen Jump, but the yin side has always held some importance to me as well. So even though I'm a part of Shonen Jump, somehow I don't feel like it defines me."
When news of Shonen Jump's record sales was big in the 1990s, it didn't really hit home for him.
"I thought it was pretty amazing. But honestly, I didn't feel like I was a part of it. It didn't seem as if I played a role in that success, or that I could increase sales even more if I worked hard enough. I guess I wasn't really wrapped up in all the hype because I knew the day would come when sales would fall again, and I didn't want to get swept away by it all. I would distance myself from all the craziness and excitement. Holding that philosophy in and of itself was pretty amazing to me. I know. It's a pretty convoluted way of thinking, isn't it? (laughs)"
He explained that he wanted to keep his distance from other manga artists at Shonen Jump.
"I wanted to look at them as perfect in every way, and not dig any deeper. Basically, I didn't want to discover a human side to them, by talking about anything that wasn't manga related. Just as a child might think their idol never has to go to the bathroom, I had this fantasy about manga artists being perfect (laughs)."
Because of this, one of the things Togashi dreaded was the annual group photo with all the manga artists, to be posted on the cover of each New Year's edition.
"I had a hard time meeting up with them, and having my picture taken like that. Back then we used to dress up in Formula 1 racing suits or similar costumes for the picture. But I thought if they ever made me wear something more revealing, I'd have to up and quit working for Shonen Jump (laughs)."
I decided to gradually develop "Yu Yu Hakusho" into a battle manga.
Togashi only has memories of failure regarding his first serialized manga, a love-themed comic called "Ten de Showaru Cupid."
"Back then, I felt really intimidated by the other manga artists, because of how powerful they were. I remember thinking I had to steal some fan votes from one of them just to stay alive in the business, but they were all too powerful to touch, so the desire to keep it running wasn't there."
But after the series ended, he immediately had the desire to start writing and drawing again.
"With the love-themed comics, I felt as if I was biting off more than I could chew, because I was trying to do something beyond my abilities. So for my next one, I wanted to work on something I actually enjoy that could gain popularity. Eventually I realized it would be a battle-themed comic. After all, battles are a staple of Shonen Jump stories. So I thought I'd try my luck in that field to see what happens."
"Yu Yu Hakusho" was supposed to be a battle manga, but there weren't any battles early in its run. Instead there were good, heartfelt stories.
"My supervisor was uncomfortable with me doing this, since it was my first battle manga. So instead, he asked me to start out with a 'good story,' and eventually transition to battles from the 30th volume or so [not sure if it's a translation error, but I imagine "chapter" is meant here]. I agreed to do this to get the green light."
It was built up strategically from the beginning for serialization.
"'Kinnikuman' is a good comparison. It started out as a gag manga, but eventually they had the Chojin Olympics. The thinking behind this is to build up the characters first, so the readers gain a certain amount of familiarity with them, and once that is established, put them in tense battle situations. I was pretty impressed with this formula after seeing it work."
Just as Togashi had planned, once he began to illustrate battles, he gained a huge amount of reader votes, and "Yu Yu Hakusho" became a massive hit. A major reason for its success was due to the amount of fan interest in Hiei and Kurama, two lesser characters that were just as popular as the hero Yusuke.
"I always had a feeling Kurama would be a fan favorite when I was drawing them, but I never thought that about Hiei. With no particular goal in mind, I thought freeing up this passion sealed inside me would lead to amazing things. I was really focused on what I thought was cool rather than what others might think (laughs)."
Togashi determined when to cancel the series himself. Of course, the Editing Department tried to get him to reconsider, but he calmly explained that some other manga will just take its place when it's canceled.
"Obviously I put a lot of my own flavor in the manga I write, but I also make sure to add some of the traditional elements that make Shonen Jump what it is. So when I say I want to stop writing a manga, it's a lot different than if a true genius like Akira Toriyama announces the same thing. I guess it was a little cold of me to say it like that (laughs), but that's really what I thought back then. After that, my goal was to create a manga that was truly irreplaceable.
Once Togashi had established that goal, he announced to the Editing Department that he would create a manga that won't get reader votes. And that manga was "Level E".
"I told them this without any explanation, so they were pretty shocked (laughs). From the beginning, I had no desire for this to be a feature manga in the magazine."
Level E was a lot different from "Yu Yu Hakusho," in that it was a sci-fi manga drawn in omnibus format, meaning each volume was an independent story with different characters.
"I wanted to show the readers something I was unable to give them in my previous works, by showing them I could construct a story and tie it all together with no loose ends. In order for readers to experience something that I'd want to read myself, I'd have to break away from the mold I was publicly recognized for as a manga artist, and show them something completely different from 'Yu Yu Hakusho'."
Togashi continued to think strategically in terms of how he was perceived as a manga artist. And this is how his next work "Hunter × Hunter" was born, which is still in serialization today.
Just like Onji, no matter how old I look,
I'm still a child at heart, who wants to keep playing here.
Togashi has been doing Shonen Jump manga continuously for nearly 30 years, so I asked him what Shonen Jump means to him.
"It's irreplaceable. To put it differently, I guess I'd call it my playground. Almost like a game because of the system in place. If you don't get the reader votes, you're done. But if you do get the votes, you can survive in this world. It's very cut and dry. I've managed to perfectly balance that feeling with a sense of admiration for the company."
He's always felt this way about Shonen Jump, from his days as a reader to where he is now.
"Generally, I feel like I'm living someone else's life now. Since I was born in a small town as the eldest son, you'd think I'd feel ashamed if I didn't secure some sort of 9-to-5 career, but I've never felt that way. In my second year of college, I realized I'm sort of an outcast when it comes to what society expects of you, and I've learned to enjoy that character trait of mine (laughs). I've known about Shonen Jump's system since my days as a reader, and I assumed there were a lot of social outcasts working there like myself, so I wanted to enjoy the game too. But in order to participate in the game, I knew you have to get votes."
When he actually joined "the game," what sort of people were there?
"Well, they were all a lot different than I assumed (laughs). Osamu Akimoto [author of Kochikame], the manga artist with the most seniority, is a remarkably decent person. And some of the offices feel like a teacher's room to me. The Editing Department is like a messy teacher's room (laughs). If you go in there, you'll get scolded. So I made a point to steer clear of the Editing Department as much as possible (laughs). Just like Onji (from "Yu Yu Hakusho"), no matter how old I look, I'm still a child at heart, who wants to keep playing here. That's what Shonen Jump is to me. And I strive to keep creating manga that readers love, so they hope I'll stick around."
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And here's that Formula 1 cover he mentioned lol.
It's a decent little series. However unlikely, I'm hoping it gets an official release someday.
And you quickly learn what he meant by a series that wouldn't get reader votes lol. Very much Togashi just enjoying himself.
I've never read the manga, but it has a solid anime adaptation by David Production. I definitely recommend it.
What kind of a job has everyone demanding you read an obscure manga?
It was released digitally and in print here in brazil, and i work at the publisher sooooo
Thanks!
I'm baffled they never made an english release after the anime came out lmao, my desk is, like, 3 meters away from the volumes xD
I wish I was compiling all the comparisons from YYH to HxH I came across, because I had more. But here are some
The whole chapter black thing and the human atrocities, and the themes about humans maybe being lowkey worse than demons reminds me of all that studd in the Chimera Ant arc about what Humans are capable of, and how they're just as bad as the ants and all that jazz.
Togashi REALLY likes that Knuckle hairstyle. Also the Sensui guy kinda looks similar to the dark skinned tall dude that dies in the Yorknew arc.
Kishi probably got his shadow possesion jutsu from that shadow guy in YYH.
Lastly, togashi is a gamer
The whole chapter black thing and the human atrocities, and the themes about humans maybe being lowkey worse than demons reminds me of all that studd in the Chimera Ant arc about what Humans are capable of, and how they're just as bad as the ants and all that jazz.
Togashi REALLY likes that Knuckle hairstyle. Also the Sensui guy kinda looks similar to the dark skinned tall dude that dies in the Yorknew arc.
Kishi probably got his shadow possesion jutsu from that shadow guy in YYH.
Lastly, togashi is a gamer