Hypothetical question about (the rumoured) Demon Souls Remake

[Splader]

Okay guys, quick (dumb), hypothetical question.

Let's say Demon Souls remake exists and is launching as a PS5 launch title exclusive. The game itself is a faithful remake in the veins of SOTC and it looks great and that's super exciting.

That being said, the only big benefit it has being on a PS5 is higher res/frame rate/texture quality and blazing fast load times.

In this hypothetical situation, is Sony being anti-consumer for not also releasing the game on PS4?

Of course if the game truly has industry pushing graphics and looks like something the PS4 could never handle, then I have no qualms with it being an exclusive, hell I would hope for it.
My doubt for that comes in that it's a remake of an older but not too old game, and that it's a Soulsborne game, which are never really graphical powerhouses.

This isn't an attack Sony post btw. I understand why they would want the game as an exclusive, even if it could run on the previous hardware. Hell if this game exists than it's my primary motivation for picking up a PS5 at launch. I'm just curious how others feel or think about the situation.

 

[TheInfinityGauntlet]

I think they're being anti consumer by not giving me the game for free

 

[TronLight]

Is Sony being anti-consumer the new trendy motif for the next-gen?

 

[Krooner]

This "anti-consumer" thing is getting insane.

 

[StrayDog]

No

 

[Toumari]

You need software to sell hardware. This isn't a new thing in the industry.

 

[Interrobang]

This ain't it, fam.

 

[Splader]

I'm not being sarcastic here and I know the words "anti-consumer" are taboo to many people.

But I really do think it's in at least part, well, bad for the consumer, that they would be abandoning an audience of over 100 million customers.
Ugh I'm wording this terribly.

 

[Deleted member 679]

Of course not, there's nothing anti-consumer about it.

I do wish it was also available on the PS4, and I'm not buying a PS5 for a remake, no matter how well done it is, but there's nothing anti-consumer about it.

SotC wasn't faithful enough for me, though, so I doubt I'll ever consider Demon's Souls to be faithful. :P

 

[Azurik]

Here we go again. "Anti- consumer" 🙄

 

[Guymelef]

The anti-consumer thing is becoming a meme.

 

[Cenauru]

Is Sony Anti-consumer for not releasing the game on PS2, PSP, PS Vita, Switch, and the little LCD display on my fridge? They could surely handle it.

 

[IDreamOfHime]

That being said, the only big benefit it has being on a PS5 is higher res/frame rate/texture quality and blazing fast load times.

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What have the romans ever done for us?

 

[Naga]

No.

 

[SunBroDave]

No

Spoiler

joke post?

 

[PlanetSmasher]

No. It's not anti-consumer to make a game specifically for hardware.

 

[RPGamer92]

Yeah fuck anything not released for the Atari 2600.

 

[Deleted member 864]

Nope.

 

[Trace]

A product being released for a product that you don't own is not anti-consumer, no.

 

[zombiejames]

Next-gen games on next-gen systems isn't anti-consumer.

 

[AndrewGPK]

Let the free market decide what is anti-consumer. We have a voice with our wallets on whether or not to make their products a success. And if their intention is to try to get people to buy PS5 by putting exclusives on it then that seems........reasonable?

 

[TronLight]

I'm not being sarcastic here and I know the words "anti-consumer" are taboo to many people.

But I really do think it's in at least part, well, bad for the consumer, that they would be abandoning an audience of over 100 million customers.
Ugh I'm wording this terribly.

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It's a really stretched definition of "anti-consumer".

 

[ReyVGM]

I think sony is anti consumer for not releasing games on the Wii U.

 

[RedMercury]

I would much rather it be released on both at the very least so the playerbase is bigger but also so more people can experience the game, if there is a good reason it can't be on PS4 then that's just how it goes, it's not like people are entitled to it but they are entitled to feel disappointed if they can't play it I guess.

 

[DriftingSpirit]

It doesn't have to just be graphical. There can be reworks for systems in Demon's Souls that require PS5.

I think Bluepoint will be doing quite a bit to change things just for PS5.

Even if they don't, your question is silly.

 

[Aly]

I used to think I knew what Anti-consumer meant but these past few weeks have me questioning it cause just about everything seems anti-consumer to some of you.

 

[Acquiescence]

Push Square looking at this thread right now and thinking to itself...

 

[EllipsisBreak]

No, there is nothing wrong with developing games specifically for new hardware. Nor is there anything wrong with a cross-gen approach. There are valid reasons for each.

 

[RPGamer92]

Sony just can't win here. If they make exclusive games for PS5 they're "anti-consumer". If there games are multi-plat, then PS5 has no games.

 

[Hippopuncher12]

No? lol. I do wish they would also remaster the original to PS4/5 but it is what it is. Also Bluepoint has said whatever game they are making is a re-imagining so it wouldn't be a fully faithful remake anyway.

I fully expect the final Archstone to be fixed or fixable so you can go in.

 

[AppleMIX]

Anti Consumer is basically based off consumer expectations. So no.

 

[Bundy]

Okay guys, quick (dumb), hypothetical question.

Let's say Demon Souls remake exists and is launching as a PS5 launch title exclusive. The game itself is a faithful remake in the veins of SOTC and it looks great and that's super exciting.

That being said, the only big benefit it has being on a PS5 is higher res/frame rate/texture quality and blazing fast load times.

In this hypothetical situation, is Sony being anti-consumer for not also releasing the game on PS4?

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No. And Demon's Soul will be a remake (re-imagination) and not only a remaster with better res, textures and framerate.
People really need to stop with the "I don't like thing = anti-consumer" bullshit. These days "anti-consumer" means nothing anymore, because a certain group of people in the gaming community are using it for whatever they don't like.

 

[IrishNinja]

i'm only concerned about the boss of the tower of latria (sp), you gotta get that one right again sonies

for real, my favorite fight since maybe psycho mantis - shit was brilliant

 

[AwakenedCloud]

I'm not being sarcastic here and I know the words "anti-consumer" are taboo to many people.

But I really do think it's in at least part, well, bad for the consumer, that they would be abandoning an audience of over 100 million customers.
Ugh I'm wording this terribly.

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Abandoning is leaving a baby kitten on the side of the road. Sony's treatment of the PS4 user base is anything but.

 

[N.47H.4N]

I'm not being sarcastic here and I know the words "anti-consumer" are taboo to many people.

But I really do think it's in at least part, well, bad for the consumer, that they would be abandoning an audience of over 100 million customers.
Ugh I'm wording this terribly.

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How are they abandoning if this year they will launch a lot of exclusive to PS4?Sony has been releasing a lot of exclusives every year this gen and has almost every year a GOTY contender,so they feed pretty well their audience,now it is time for a new gen.And I said that as someone who will not get a new console so soon.

 

[Kyoufu]

"Anti-consumer" has become a meme. lol

 

[Drencrom]

No.

No? lol. I do wish they would also remaster the original to PS4/5 but it is what it is. Also Bluepoint has said whatever game they are making is a reimagining so it wouldn't be a fully faithful remake anyway.

I fully expect the final Archstone to be fixed or fixable so you can go in.

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They called the SoTC Remake a "reimagining" too.

 

[nib95]

Christ this forum and the misuse of the term anti-consumer. Next people will be claiming they're anti-consumer for charging people for games.

 

[Hippopuncher12]

No.



They called the SoTC Remake a "reimagining" too.

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Didn't they add things to that? Also I have never played it so can't comment on it.

 

[Cess007]

There was a meeting or something where people decided to strip the word 'anti-consumer" of any meaning and I wasn't invited, or what happened?

 

[Cugel]

wat

 

[sleepr]

How does Sony dare to release exclusive games on their new console... those bastards.

 

[Deleted member 6263]

I think people are being a little hard on OP, even if OP is very wrong.

 

[Splader]

Looking at the responses, it looks like I'm in a heavy minority with this thought.

Sony's support for the PS4 has been great, especially this year with two titles they could easily have pushed to next gen.

I dunno, it just doesn't feel right to me, but it is business (and good business at that, demon souls at launch would be huge).

 

[Apathy]

Can people fucking learn what anti consumer actually is before they write a post.

 

[Splader]

Christ this forum and the misuse of the term anti-consumer. Next people will be claiming they're anti-consumer for charging people for games.

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I get the disingenuous responses coming here. But really?

You really think that's what I meant or what I mean? Am I this so called "people" that will claim such things?

 

[Deleted member 49535]

Sigh.

 

[noyram23]

It's anti consumer that they aren't giving ps5 for free, arrogant Sony.

 

[Cactuar]

I think they're being anti consumer by not giving me the game for free

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QFT.

 

[Finale Fireworker]

Looking at the responses, it looks like I'm in a heavy minority with this thought.

Sony's support for the PS4 has been great, especially this year with two titles they could easily have pushed to next gen.

I dunno, it just doesn't feel right to me, but it is business (and good business at that, demon souls at launch would be huge).

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If launching new technology and supporting it with software is "anti-consumer", under what circumstances could new technology ever be justified?

If you say games should launch on both platforms, okay. But what would you say if someone said it was "anti-consumer" that their new investment is not being supported by its manufacturer?

Do you see how you can cut this as "anti-consumer" from a bunch of different ways and how none of them are?