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Hyrule Warriors: Age of Calamity *SPOILER Thread*
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Or maybe in BotW2 there's a light world/dark world dynamic but you're traveling between the two timelines :-o
Based on what I saw:
Hestu - Summons Koroks around to help him attack, as well as using his Maracas to fight
Riju - Slides around with Patricia. Heard someone mentioned that she summons guards too but I didn't quite catch that
Teba - His ZR has him firing powerful shots instead. He seems to be not as quick as Revali, as well as seemingly not having the other types of arrows with him (I mostly see him with regular and bomb arrows, idk if that's the case for Revali too. Either way, they play different from each other)
Hestu - Summons Koroks around to help him attack, as well as using his Maracas to fight
Riju - Slides around with Patricia. Heard someone mentioned that she summons guards too but I didn't quite catch that
Teba - His ZR has him firing powerful shots instead. He seems to be not as quick as Revali, as well as seemingly not having the other types of arrows with him (I mostly see him with regular and bomb arrows, idk if that's the case for Revali too. Either way, they play different from each other)
Last note that was hilarious to see is watching her attack mid air swinging the seal around to do damage.
I've only seen Revali use bomb and regular arrows too. But maybe both unlock and use others in combos. It does seem like Teba and Yunobo will probably be a lot more similar to their respective Champions than Riju or Sidon (though Sidon may also end up being pretty close, even with the extra spear).
Yea no, they wouldn't invest that much money on MP4 if they didn't care about the audience that took off the Switch from the start.
Hey I've been advocating this since the original reveal of time travel
Maybe try this thing called... empathy?
This was sold on the supposition that it'd flesh out a tragic story, which is a first for both Zelda and a musou. That sounded ambitious and exciting for people.
Instead, we're getting something that squashes that possibility. You really can't understand why someone might be disappointed?
can we at least wait till we can be sure?
We don't have like half of the cutscenes avaliable yet.
It's disappointing, but some folks are being a little silly with the "false advertising" stuff. If the goal was to mislead then they really fucked up by releasing that demo. Not to mention that we all knew something was up right from the start with the little egg guardian around.
I don't know why people think BOTW2 would take place in the timeline of a third party spinoff rather than the mainline game that it is explicitly stated to be a sequel to.
(And before anyone says it, AOC was never actually called a "prequel" by Nintendo. That's different from how they actually called BOTW2 "the sequel".)
(And before anyone says it, AOC was never actually called a "prequel" by Nintendo. That's different from how they actually called BOTW2 "the sequel".)
Empathy? Are you kidding me? This is a video game, first of all. Second, the game isn't out yet, so it isn't a case of buying a product and feeling betrayed after playing it - nobody here has played it yet. Third, nobody here has played it yet, so they're upset about something that isn't even a sure thing yet. Fourth, this is Hyrule Warriors, a Musou game - so nobody knew what to expect from the story, but it would probably be silly given the long track record. Fifth, a Zelda game is never going to have a tragic ending. It's not happening, it has never happened, and people were kidding themselves if they thought otherwise. Sixth, buying into marketing hype and then finding out marketing hype is hype and getting upset is silly.
I'll save my empathy for causes that matter, not people disliking the story of a fucking video game that they haven't played yet. Get off your high horse.
This is also an important point that folks should keep in mind here.
This might sound crazy, but you can have empathy (definition: the ability to understand and share the feelings of another) for the dumb shit people care about as well as the big causes of life.
Which I'd figure you're capable of, since you care enough to post on a meaningless video game forum instead of protesting in the streets right now.
Exactly, lol.
The fact that AOC isn't even being published in Japan by Nintendo (just like the other Nintendo Warriors games) was already a warning sign that this game prolly was never gonna be canon.
Same, lol. FF7R was glorious, both the game itself and the white-hot controversy it created. The Zelda fandom is going to tear itself apart once AoC comes out. Get the popcorn ready!
Also, this is totally canon. The publisher in Japan has nothing to do with whether it's canon. It starts in the BotW timeline and branches out to a separate timeline. Whether it will influence BotW2, tho, who knows.
The only downside i have, is that i'm going to have to tell my friend that he needs to play BOTW before playing this (him and his gf are going through zelda titles right now, he's finished WW/LA and is now on TP)
I'm not gonna dig into this thread because while I don't mind story spoilers for zelda, character unlocks and mechanics I rather keep secret - all I really want to know is, does the full retail game perform like the demo? Or is it hopefully better?
There will be reviews tomorrow. We might get a better answer then
There's a lot of interesting and subversive things you can do by messing with canon but to me taking a tragic plot people were excited to learn more about and turning it into a typical fanservice-y crossover plot where everyone lives happily ever after is far from that.
Game still looks fun as heck but watching the past storyline play out and seeing how they incorporated the tragic ending into it was the thing I was most looking forward to from it
Game still looks fun as heck but watching the past storyline play out and seeing how they incorporated the tragic ending into it was the thing I was most looking forward to from it
we don't know that yet. There were like 40 cutscenes missing from the datamined files uploaded
FF7R's ending managed to make me entirely uninterested in a remake to my favourite FF game. Man fuck that ending.
This thread is like: "This is a musou, it was always gonna be silly and story is irrelevant, how could anyone expect a canon prequel"
"But also what if the entire purpose of this musou is to be a canon setup to the sequel"
"But also what if the entire purpose of this musou is to be a canon setup to the sequel"
It elevated the story to something amazing for me. The fact FF7R is actually a sequel rather than a remake, and one where maybe they can alter fate, has me incredibly excited to see what Part 2 does. :)
I think when people ask "Is this canon?" what they're really asking is: "Will the events of this game factor into BotW2?"
It's too early to know for sure, but if I had to guess right now, I would guess no. I think it would be too weird for the people who skipped this game. They would finish BotW1, then start playing BotW2 and suddenly everything is different. My guess is that Nintendo wouldn't go for that.
It's too early to know for sure, but if I had to guess right now, I would guess no. I think it would be too weird for the people who skipped this game. They would finish BotW1, then start playing BotW2 and suddenly everything is different. My guess is that Nintendo wouldn't go for that.
This is 0% canon (or, no more canon than Linkle and Cia). Nothing that happens in AoC that wasn't previously mentioned in another Zelda game will never be referenced outside of a Hyrule Warriors game ever again.
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The difference is that what happens in AoC is based heavily on what happens in BotW. It's tied to BotW's world and history and can be placed in a timeline, branching or not. Things happen in this game that are directly mentioned or shown in BotW. It is absolutely greater than 0% canon whether you like it or not.
There are (unfortunately) still streams of the full game running on Twitch / YouTube (with rewind)
It's canon. AoC literally branches out of BotW's Calamity into a parallel timeline.
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Exactly. Like I know I've been saying I wanted to stick to the established story but it's still canon unless you wanna call Zelda games in certain branches in the timeline uncanon
Don't plan on buying this game. Could anyone summarize the story for me? I just want to know what the hubbub is about. I've heard vague details but nothing concrete
What? That doesn't make it canon.
It's so not canon that it is going to end with the future champions having their memory of AoC wiped for "reasons" the same as every other non-canon crossover in media history lol.
There's an interesting discussion here to be had on story telling and the nature of "canon". On one hand if a story is set in this world then it should be automatically canon regardless of whether is contradicts previous information or not. Especially if the creator's say that it is. On the other hand, if new information from this game is never referenced by newer games or is even contradicted by other games then it's canonicity doesn't really matter. Like, if this game has a happy ending that BotW and BotW 2 both say did not happen then the game isn't actually any different from a non-canon game in it's impact on the story.
I guess this is a long way of saying that canon is just a made up term that doesn't really mean anything.
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Yeah I feel that too. I just think that even if they change things they're working within the framework of BotW's story. Especially in a series like Zelda, where games can be in separate timelines from eachother and all be considered canon, it's weird to say AoC is not canon whatsoever when you can pinpoint when it takes place and similar events play out.
Hyrule Warriors 1 has no timeline pinpointed and the events that occur have no relation to any game, comparing AoC to that and putting it in the same boat is just wrong
The idea is this game occupies a separate but still canonical timeline. Think Wind Waker and Twilight Princess. TWW is in a timeline with a "bad ending" where Hyrule flooded. TP is in a timeline with a "good ending" where there was no flood. Both timelines are offshoots of OoT. Both are canon. Likewise, here in AoC, AoC starts in BotW's past but then branches into a separate timeline where things can follow a different track.
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Yeah even if they don't capitalize on it and make a game that continues AoC's ending, it's still the same case
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It's a weird concept. I never took it seriously. Anything that has an implied place and time it's relevant, other timeline or not. It's too strictly applied and not really that deep. The things that aren't canon are ones that don't try to be in the first place like HW1 or Smash.