Same, given how gruesome and nightmarish that movie was, I legit didn't even know a dog died. I was still shaking involuntarily at some parts of that movie.
I’m so sick of Dogs getting Killed in Movies
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There's dogs in this picture?I can truly understand you, op. There was a movie on Netflix that started out with a hunter and his Rottweiler, eventually something bad takes over the dog and attacks the hunter, so he is forced to shoot him.
We own a Rottweiler, and the movie one looked just like ours, so I felt upset and I turned the movie off.
Here's a pic of him with the other doggies we have :)
Watch a movie to see humans get butchered. Get upset because there's also a dog.
I shall never understand humanity.
I shall never understand humanity.
hahah yea.
I don't get the OP. There is so much (real) shit going on in this world. And you choose to be bothered by "dogs dying (well they're not really dying)"' in fucking movies. Just wow. I wish I had your life :(
Not in the eyes of most of modern society. Dogs are treated like companions now instead of being used for hunting/guard duty
Yep.I don't get people that care more about animals dying than human beings.
I think the empathy works like:
- People have a high affinity for dogs. They see them as "unconditionally" loyal and affectionate.
- People see dogs as helpless creatures with no agency of their own. They can do little to avoid bad situations and are therefore not responsible for any misfortune that befalls them.
- When dogs are harmed, in reality or in movies, people feel its basically like harming the most perfect personification of love, loyalty, and innocence. Basically it's like harming a baby except even worse because even a baby grows up to be a person who's okay to kill.
So people dying you don't care, but more about dogs?
Seen this so much by privileged white yuppies
Also I love how OP is justifying it by saying humans are cardboard cutouts in movies,
What fucking animal gets character development in 99% of movies compared to humans?
Man you people are bordering on sociopaths, having more empathy for animals than people
Seen this so much by privileged white yuppies
Also I love how OP is justifying it by saying humans are cardboard cutouts in movies,
What fucking animal gets character development in 99% of movies compared to humans?
Man you people are bordering on sociopaths, having more empathy for animals than people
You can't generalize that. In some modern societies dogs are just seen as food, like pigs and cows for us. 25 million dogs are eaten each year.
Are you implying that people who ever get upset at fictional material can't seperate fiction from fact?
Really?
I thought the society I was referring to being western was implied. Oh well.
People can be bothered by more than one thing, you know. Just because seeing a dog brutally die on screen triggers an emotional reaction in some people doesn't mean those same people suddenly don't care about any other people's struggles.
I'm pretty sure more groups than just "privilege white sociopaths" care about animals but, no, keep on demeaning other people for their emotional reactions to things.
EDIT: That and feeling affected by a dog's death in a film doesn't mean you can't feel affected by a human's death in film. Stop with the assumptions.
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Fuck yeah.
This thread wasn't controversial enough, let's make it about race too.
No,I think Ive put it across badly now I've re read what I've put lol....to much sun has melted my 4 brain cells
If you don’t like dogs dying in movies you’re sexist AND racist somehow.
Don't forget that you're a sociopath as well!
inb4 someone implies that people who don't like dogs dying in movies are Trump voters
Values between cultures differ. I don't see how that's bad in a case like this where literally no-one is getting hurt.
Lol, I was trying to get the verbiage right for how I was feeling but came across your post. Pretty much hits it on the money.
Being devil's advocate though dogs are innocent beings in the care of their owner (or parent) like babies.
Still it's a fucking tragedy that Michael Vick had more people thirsty for his blood and went to jail and a bigger piece of shit like George Zimmerman gets zero jail time.
This is the kind of statement that one should be able to do a proper research before posting such utter bullshit
Sorry m8, you are wrong
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-more-people-study-animals-pets-a8033056.html
If you want to change that phenomena calling people "white yuppie sociopaths" is the worst possible way to do it. All you're doing is trying to diminish real emotions through condescension and that will never, ever work. People's feelings aren't suddenly less real because they're not what you consider to be the "most important" feelings to have.
That and removing the ability for those "white yuppie sociopaths" to care about animals isn't going to make them suddenly turn on Zimmerman since, well, the people in support of him were racist fucks no matter their opinion on dogs. I looked at Zimmerman's acquittal with disgust and sorrow because, despite what you're probably thinking right now, I'm not a racist fuck; I was also able to be disgusted as the dog's death in The Lobster because I don't have a set number of "emotions" to allocate to different things.
I dont know if it's a white yuppie thing or not. My sister had a little annoying yip yap and loved and cared for it, and she's not white. I love animals as well and wanted to be a veterinarian growing up but allergies dashed that plan. That said, I really give zero fucks about the feelings of someone that feels more empathy for the death of a dog versus a human kid.
The person you replied to and agree with was explicitly calling it a "white yuppie sociopath" phenomena, so I kind of assumed you believed it too. Making this a race thing, or even a western culture thing as some people want to do, is, as I said, a thinly veiled attempt to diminish other people's genuine emotions.
And yes, in real life if you care about an animal dying and not about a human kid dying then there's a big problem there, but that's not what this thread is about. Frankly, the link between "caring about dogs dying in film" and "rooting for Zimmerman" is one that's tenuous at best, especially considering this isn't an explicitly American topic. I'm as equally disgusted when I see a kid die in film as I am to seeing a dog die in film (and before you say it, equally means "both are at the highest level of disgust"), it's just that the former is a much less common trope and isn't used so often as cheap emotional bait.
Like, I can fully understand if you don't feel the same reaction to dogs dying in films as I do. If you're not hurting them yourself you're just a different person with different experiences. But when you try to say that people with that reaction are somehow wrong for feeling that way or that they're in some way a bad person or even a sociopath then of course I'm going to take issue with it. All it does is make you (not specifically you, but I think it's clear who I'm talking about) look spiteful and lacking empathy because, really, it's not that big a deal. People complain about films all the time in here, yet this is for some reason "going too far," because it involves animals and, from my experience, many members on ERA/GAF aren't a big fan of animals at all.
This seemingly recent trend really stood out to me after watching John Wick, The Lobster and Babadook. In most movies it feels like a cheap/lazy way to shock the audience, if it's happens in every other movie soon enough the law of diminishing returns will take effect. Using it as a catalyst for plot in John Wick was fantastic though.
This thread has gotten a little bonkers. People can be uncomfortable with seeing animals get killed without first having to preface it with a ranked list of the other issues in the world that are also bad.
This thread has gotten a little bonkers. People can be uncomfortable with seeing animals get killed without first having to preface it with a ranked list of the other issues in the world that are also bad.
Cheap way to get people emotional. They'd get a baby killed if they could get away with it but it would be deemed too cruel.
Tbh it's justified in john wick. It's tough, but it launches the movie and the subsequent rampage feels good because of it.
The cheapest dog death has to be in I am legend. Completely gratuitous and played for cheap tears.
The cheapest dog death has to be in I am legend. Completely gratuitous and played for cheap tears.
Doesn't really bother me if it makes sense for the film. Movies aren't real life. Tons of bad stuff happens in movies, its part of what makes them compelling.
What makes it 'cheap' versus an effective trope?
I don't understand how people can be bothered by dogs dying in films where people are horribly brutalized. You're watching violent films, the idea that a pet getting killed somehow crosses a line seems to me absurd, and feeds into the unfortunate reality that there are plenty of people out there who care more about pets than human beings. There are literally charities that go to third-world countries and rescue dogs rather than helping the people living there because those people aren't taking care of their pets "the right way". It's abhorrent.
I recently got back into the Division and found out my friend gets kind've bothered by me gunning down the dogs that run around the city. I think I did it as a joke initially, but now I do it often if he's around just to hear his reaction. I'm a good friend like that.
LOOOOL, different objective with that death. Dog deaths in horror movies bother me about as much as the human deaths. It's meant to be horrific and terrifying.
Just wiki'd the plot of this film. Sheesh. I don't give too many shits about dogs killed in film, but I ain't watching that shit. And if someone messes with my Pomeranian, I will go John Wick on someone's ass. And i HATE my Pomeranian. Loud ass small dog. He was a runt, only weighs like 8 lbs and gets on my nerves. He's cute as hell though.
Was Hitler's dog the mastermind behind the Nazis?! I don't think so.
HITLER'S DOG DID NOTHING WRONG!!
