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I am a lifelong Star Wars superfan and I refuse to watch the upcoming films from David Benioff and D. B. Weiss
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I don't get why they keep hiring whoever is responsible for big blockbusters. The best Star Wars movies were made by a nobody, an indie filmmaker, and another indie filmmaker.
Take a chance on someone good, not just the flavor of the week.
Take a chance on someone good, not just the flavor of the week.
The Dany issue is only part of a larger pattern. If it were that alone I'd raise an eyebrow but wouldn't necessarily jump to calling it sexist. And if I'm upset it's because every single time us women on here try to talk about the misogyny of the show we're shouted down by (male) fans who accuse of being "PC Police" and "looking to be offended" and "butthurt our fave didn't win". So you'll excuse me if I feel a tad defensive.
D&D would definitely be the one I bet on being delayed/cancelled.
Rian Johnson got a lot of goodwill with the Star Wars folks for writing and directing one of the most critically acclaimed Star Wars movies ever. Sure, it divided fans, but many critics and film scholars loved it. Plus all of the cast and crew supposedly loved working with him.
Meanwhile, D&D's hiring seems to follow the same pattern as when Colin Trevorrow was hired. They are very popular right now and have a very successful IP, but they still have to prove if Star Wars is even a good fit for them. As with Trevorrow I can see them getting the boot after the dust settles on Game of Thrones, just like how Trevorrow got the boot not long after The Book of Henry dropped.
Personally, I wouldn't cry over the loss of Weiss and Benioff. While Weiss hasn't done enough to really judge his writing (Game of Thrones is 50/50 and it's pretty much the only thing he did), Benioff is a pretty bad screenwriter. While he did write the book and screenplay for one of the best films of the 00's (The 25th Hour), pretty much everything he did after has sucked. His most notable film since The 25th Hour is The Kite Runner.
I stopped watching GoT in the end of the 2nd season. I was really tempted to go back. This is the first time in my life that I got spoiled and I'm not mad for that.lol everyone is like "It's the mad Dany stans" but like
I'm not a fan of any of the characters. I haven't finished even the first book. I still want them far and away of Star Wars.
also wrote my favorite book, city of thieves
man, he said dany forgot about the iron fleet
this guy has allowed money to ruin his vision (or some shit)
Well maybe they did but most people don't shit on them because of that.
there has been some.
but its weird because the hardcore book fans get pissed off if D&D change anything from the non existent books that the later seasons are using for their content. But also they need to change all the racism and sexism from the books, but keep it faithful to the books at the same time. especially all the sexism that the most powerful characters are all female.
If they now did, that should be way more critized instead of their writing.
They fridged one of the only two black characters who they still let talk in the show two weeks ago, have made the two big women characters in the show crazy because only men are allowed to be shown as reasonable capable leaders, and one of their next projects is a passion project they've talked about publicly and privately for years about What Would Happen If The Confederacy Won And Some Slave Owners Were Good Actually?
No excuse needed, i joked about something that means a lot to you and, despite the fact you may consider me one, there's a lot of cunts out there who will say things like that so it's not an issue and I didn't mean to upset you personally.
I do agree that the show is problematic, by the way, I just think Dany is less of an indicator of that issue that the larger universe so it was a natural skepticism of people jumping off and going mad at this point rather than prior and when they have a Dany avatar, it's an assumption I'm making.
I haven't watched GoT but I think Disney picking flavor of the week directors/writers/whatever that are currently popular to do movies or even trilogies that are years off is pretty dumb. What was it that the dude who was originally doing IX even picked for? I guess it doesn't matter because he put out one shit movie in a span of a decade and now he's out, and I'd be surprised if something similar doesn't happen again.
I agree with the larger sentiment about their portrayal of women but this is a crazy exaggeration. GOT has broken some people and their ability to think clearly.
Benioff has more bad than good though.
Good
- The 25th Hour
- The Kite Runner (sort of)
- GoT S1-4
Bad
- Troy
- X-Men Origins
- Stay
- Brothers
- GoT S5-8
He has also written that Will Smith vs. Will Smith movie that's coming out later this year which looks pretty bad as well.
Interestingly, the novels he's written have all been well received. The 25th Hour was lauded (and of course again when it was turned into a movie) and his second novel served as a huge inspiration for The Last of Us.
The only thing, in this season I remember people talking about, is Jon being a better ruler due to being a man since the other houses would accept a man over a women more easy.
It's the biggest, most successful show on the planet. They won't have a hard time getting work at all.
people were pissed off the dothraki died first and the unsullied were "protecting" everyone else.
that scene you mention though was really well done and specifically calls out the sexism of the rest of westeros.
GRRM is to blame for everything. He sold HBO the rights to GoT and then failed to write actual books. Is what it is.
Guess what, I'm not white.
Cut the bullshit. The source material itself is full of racism, sexism, homophobia, and misogyny. That's literally the setting GRRM created. Not sure what gave you the expectation that Westeros was supposed to be some progressive, comfortable utopia.
That shit has been present in the show since Day 1 but something tells me you were giving it a pass until the show surpassed the books and the writing went downhill, after which you had this convenient faux-moral high ground to fall back on and try to shame people who still enjoy the thing you don't.
Take this trash back to Tumblr plz
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From a story point,
killing of Missandei made Grey Worm lose his shit and stand by Dany whatever the situation (which was quite clear when Jon tried to stop the Northmen from attacking).
Dany going crazy was not far fetched either taking all context in.
Dany going crazy was not far fetched either taking all context in.
The Confederacy... well let us see how it plays out before passing judgement (but I agree if you have good examples and think that DB is what some are saying I can totally see the issue).
As someone who has never liked Star Wars very much, I'm hesitantly looking forward to their trilogy. I've only seen a few episodes of Game of Thrones, but I loved all of them. And while I adored Rian Johnson's episodes on Breaking Bad, I hated The Last Jedi so I'm not looking forward to his trilogy at all.
This is what youre worried about this fine Monday morning?
Those Star Wars movie wont be out like half a decade
Those Star Wars movie wont be out like half a decade
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You may also change your avatar and bend the knee to your rightful queen.
Has there been any confirmation that those Star Wars are still happening? The tentative schedule Disney put out had 3 movies, and I assumed it was Rian Johnson's trilogy.
I'd be interested to see what they come up with. If they're burnt out on GoT they might have fresh energy for something new.
The Last Jedi and last night's GoT are both good.
I'd be interested to see what they come up with. If they're burnt out on GoT they might have fresh energy for something new.
The Last Jedi and last night's GoT are both good.
Yeah, well I don't agree on those point at all, due to 1) Unsullied are the best troop they have, of course they need to defend when they are escaping. 2) Dothraki, well they are skirmishers which should attack and retreat (but yes, their tactics where idiotic and it happened only because of budget reasons).