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I don't get the concept of cultural appropriation
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Stop being a (superficial bigot at best, and at worst a) racist. Judge your fellow men on their character, not their skin colour, country of origin, or the assumed sins of their fathers.
It's not as clear as you make it.
Is that any different than people dressing up as nuns? Is it different than someone dressing up as Alladin? Or someone dressing up as a geisha. Wearing a sombrero? I dont see anything necessarily bad about these Halloween outfits.
I am born in Lebanon but thanks for generalizing. And it is not about Africa. Gotta love it when you say something that has nothing 2ith the topic at hand.
I showed in the video that the majority of the asked people did not mind, so why is it always about Americans and why do you always want to project your culture into everyone?
Cultural Appropriation is real issue. Part of the problem, however, is that many of the examples thrown out aren't actually cultural appropriation.
Music / Food / Hair Styles / Language / Clothing doesn't belong to one culture. Never has either. Living in a society means that those things tend to get adopted by those around you, even moreso in the global society we now live in. This is normal.
As far as "Showing Respect" / "Paying Tribute" goes, the most anyone should do is acknowledge where their influences come from for their art/craft. Most artists are actually happy to do so.
Music / Food / Hair Styles / Language / Clothing doesn't belong to one culture. Never has either. Living in a society means that those things tend to get adopted by those around you, even moreso in the global society we now live in. This is normal.
As far as "Showing Respect" / "Paying Tribute" goes, the most anyone should do is acknowledge where their influences come from for their art/craft. Most artists are actually happy to do so.
Calm down, sweetheart...
It has everything to do with this conversation, you just don't have the brains to put two and two together. Let me spell it out: As a white person of European decent with a long term partner who is a Pakistani born Muslim everyday we are pretty much 'appropriating' each others cultures (by some peoples definition) I wear Pakistani clothes, I celebrate Pakistani holidays and a lot of little things in between, and vice versa... And when we have our marriage ceremony it will almost certainly be very Pakistani in style.
My point was nothing to do with sex, it was that the extremists on one end of the spectrum call us 'race traitors' and on the other end harp on about 'cultural appropriation' and we both think the whole thing is fucking stupid.
I explained it. The very limited sample size of Japanese people living in Japan in that video don't mind it, but issues of Asian American representation in American made films is an issue.
A hijab isn't at all equivalent to those examples though. What you posted is either a fictional character or an actual role. A hijab is a religious garment worn by muslim women. So if a person decides to wear a hijab (a religious garment that Muslims women to this day face persecution and abuse over) as a Halloween piece, when asked who they are for halloween, what's their answer?
I've seen muslim women/girls trick or treating with their kids and siblings, so the Halloween dress up would be indistinguishable from someone that's a muslim taking part in the festive that night. So you think it's ok for someone to cosplay as a muslim women for a night, in the same countries where they're yanking the hijabs off of actual Muslim girls and women and targeting them for hate crimes by virtue of their head piece?
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You're just purposefully misunderstanding the critique of cultural appropriation with some bragging about having sex with an "exotic" woman.
No one really cares that you wear Pakistani clothes and that's way outside of most the criticism of cultural appropriation, seriously.
That's some real valuable conversation right there
Maybe not the best idea to use your partner or your relationship as a shield, dunno what you think that proves in the broader scope of things.
You still don't understand what appropriation means, do you?
So I guess I should say that I'm not trying to get into an argument here; this is important to a lot of people that I know, and I'm trying to understand where they're coming from.
The status quo is bullshit, and I can only imagine how enraging it must be to see people who have a million different unearned advantages being able to do things that get you punished with impunity. If a white person talks back to a police officer, the officer might get pissed but he's probably not at risk of violence. If a person of color does it, the officer could do any number of terrible things and get away with it.
But the solution to police brutality isn't to expose white people to the level of brutality that black people are exposed to, right? We can either solve the double standard by making things as crappy for white people as they are for black people, or we can do the opposite.
So... yeah, it seems shitty to me that PoC can't wear hair styles their types of hair are well-suited for without being seen as ghetto or unprofessional or what have you. And it seems extra shitty that the hair styles that are most natural for you get picked up by privileged people who want their hair to be transgressive or exotic or whatever without having experienced a day of the oppression that makes it transgressive in the first place.
But isn't the best way to fix this double standard to make it so that PoC can wear those hairstyles without it being a big deal, rather than creating a strong norm against white people wearing those hairstyles?
lol 'exotic'... Is everyone in this thread a teenager? I wasn't bragging about having sex with my girlfriend of many years... It's pretty normal.
And, no, it isn't... All the complaints I see about 'cultural appropriation' IS white people wearing clothes of American Indians or having Dread Locks or whatever... It's all totally superficial stuff.
I was replying to someone who said "and if you continue to be this fucking stupid " because I made a joke about having sex... I'm just answering like with like...
A shield against what? I'm speaking about our experiences as a mixed race couple... For example, people saying to her 'Why are you celebrating Christmas?' as if to say 'that isn't for people like you.' I was simply saying that you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't.
This.
The element that people often miss regarding cultural appropriation (which, to me, seems to be the main cause for people not understanding the concept), is the deformation or the warping of the cultural item being appropriated. Take for example a white guy dressing as a "native american" for Halloween:
1. his costume surely isn't a 1:1 recreating of actual native american clothing, but rather what white people perceive it to be (in large part because of Hollywood);
2. that guy is taking clothing from a culture, aka "normal" clothing that has deep ties to the cultural identity of a people, and is wearing it as a Halloween costume. That is not only incredibly insulting to the native americans, but in doing so, this white guy is further twisting the perception of native american clothing and culture in the mind of white people or non-native-american people.
This is in contrast to, say, a white guy making and eating sushi. That is not cultural appropriation.
So an example of cultural appropriation would be to take a norse god, make him a blonde hippie with wings on his helmet and apply him for membership in an american crime fighting group?
Kim Kardashian was credited with a specific type of braid erroneously called "boxer braids" which has long been a protective style for black women.
No one is suggesting the first, at all.
To the last paragraph, ideally, maybe. But that isn't the current reality and because of that reality when white people engage in these styles that recently and currently black people are dehumanized for, it's disrespectful.
I have literally no idea of what you're talking about (about "boxer braids"), so I just googled it and it came out on a bunch of fashion websites as something that is barely attributed to Kim Kardashian.
Yeah, you're right this is pretentious white people picking up stuff without regards. Apologies for mixing it up with common braids.
Just an example:
https://magazine.lorealprofessionne...ficio-boxer-braids-vs-coda-di-cavallo_a2232/1
Fuck off L'Oreal, western braids are clearly a different style that starts lower on the hair, around the neck, also way less intricate.
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I'm gonna try to help out with this since a lot of people are either focusing on the wrong things or mistakenly believing in some shizz.
Cultural appropriation has nothing to do with skin color or a specific culture. A white culture can appropriate from another white culture (Brits from Scots for instance). The key point and defining characteristic that everyone continually misrepresents and keeps missing because they're either not paying attention or willfully ignorant, is when a DOMINANT culture who is in control of the country/city/whatever's society and culture takes something from a MINORITY culture. And if the word MINORITY is what's getting you hung up, it's because they're using the straight up definition of it as in "the one that isn't made up of the most people in a society" which in the US is black people, latinx, Asian, etc.
So in America because WHITES are the dominant culture, they're the ones who perpetrate it on MINORITIES in America. IN AMERICA. They are the ones who have the ability to take from those cultures, use it on their own and not suffer the problems or cultural removal that the minority has to suffer. So a white dude with dreads not suffering from the same stigma as a black person with dreads as well as the lens that the dominant culture separately views them through is what makes it appropriation. Taking the cuisine of Latin immigrants to this country who don't speak perfect English, who can't open spotless and beautiful restaurants, who can't open them in the "good" parts of the city, who can't afford the advertising to promote them and then using the money your dad left you to open a Latin food restaurant right in the middle of the financial district with beautiful chandeliers and a live band and hiring white chefs to cook food that you were inspired to open because you really like burritos and then slapping "Authentic Latin cuisine!" on the front of your store is appropriation.
The reason American cultural appropriation shows up so often is because the lines are the clearest and easiest to see; we do it based on skin color for the most part. It's the biggest visual key for how we appropriate things.
So to take an example, why didn't Japanese people in Japan care what was going on with Ghost in the Shell? They weren't the ones affected by it! They weren't losing parts to white people, they weren't passed over in casting because they looked "too exotic", they weren't called unrelatable by focus groups, they weren't struggling to make it in an industry IN AMERICA where they have to put up with stereotypes and white-washing and all the garbage that Asian-americans have to deal with. Japanese people aren't a minority in America if they're in Japan so Japan doesn't give a fuck what we do; they are here though so the people who are being taken advantage of are the minorities HERE.
What's this whole diatribe about? To show you that it's not inherent racial attributes that matters, it's the power dynamic and who is in the minority.
Forgive my examples if they are not specifically accurate when it comes to certain things because I am not from these cultures. But even with the particulars perhaps being incorrect the genera l thrust of my point should come across from it.
So let's take the example I said above of English people taking something from Scots. Say that Scottish people are a minority in England and England frowned on kilts. And then suddenly some English so and so in high society wears one and they are SO BRAVE and trend-setting. And kilts are now in fashion! Kilts are worn by Brits everywhere, they don't prevent people from getting jobs, they don't get people beat up in the streets or called names, they don't "out" you as a Scottish person because it's okay for YOU to wear them now! But go back in time a bit and before all this if you, as a Scottish person, wanted to wear your kilt in London or at job interviews or while walking by some pubs would you receive the same treatment? Would it be okay for you to wear your culture's garments there during a time when it wasn't the fashion trend of the English themselves? Both of them are white. Both speak the same language. But one of them is still able to direct the flows of culture in their society.
Maybe an easier example. Let's take Poland. 96.9% Polish. But maybe there are bands of Roma travelling through their cities and you can pretty much just look at this website to see how hated Roma are. They're constantly driven out of places, yelled at, beaten up, generally looked down upon. Maybe they are derided for the music they play, maybe it's too folksy or uses an accordion or whatever so people make fun of it, they yell at them for making noise, it's considered music for simpletons and trash people. And then there's a folk revival in Poland and a man who always used to enjoy the Roma music he listened to starts playing that type of music and makes it BIG. He's hugely popular, selling out concerts and CDs and he tours around Europe and begins to beget other German or Danish artists who play Roma music, maybe taking it and putting their own spin on it. And meanwhile the Roma don't have any popular artists, still get yelled at wherever they go, are never mentioned in interviews with this big Polish artist or said off-handedly. He never names any Roma people, never does anything to stop prejudice against Roma, never really acknowledges them outside of interviews. This is appropriation.
And finally let's look at a closer example to the OP of this thread. Say you are in a Middle Eastern country and you are a man. You are a Shiite Muslim and so is 90% of the country. And your country really, REALLY does not like Sunni Muslims. They're basically second class citizens. You look the same, you were born in the same country, but...they don't believe the same stuff. You though, you've never ever been prejudiced against them. Some of your best friends are Sunni Muslims and you have never spoken a bad word against them. Hell, you regularly eat over at your best friend's house and love his cooking. It's really popular among the Sunni community and they have to make it themselves most of the time because restaurants that serve it don't get good business. And if they ask for it at regular restaurants then they get weird looks or told to leave or to order something else. Your friend is comfortable with you coming over but he's had people before who have looked down on him for it before or reacted poorly because it's made with cheap ingredients and whatever he manages to get from the market. You love it so much YOU start making it! And man, you love it so much you want to share it with the world! Your friend is not sure about this and doesn't want to join you on this venture. But man, you just...you gotta let people know! So you host gatherings where you make this food and people think it's so unique and interesting! You have a pretty good job so you get only the best ingredients, maybe even put your own spin on it! Bring some into the office and it's a hit! You get know for making a mean dish and even some friends try their hand at it. But all this time, no one's called you poor or dirty, no one acted disgusted when you fed them it, all the recognition you got was free and clear! And it was for YOU.
As I said, some of the particulars may be off and for that I do apologize but I think this might help people understand this a bit more instead of defaulting to believing this kind of shit only happens in the US. It's more obvious here because of our history or the demographics of our population but if you're in a country like Poland where 96.9% of people are like you and you say you've never heard of this being a problem in your country...do you really think you'd ever hear about it from those 3.1%? If 96.9% of the population controls the way information is spread and regarded and treated?
Cultural appropriation has nothing to do with skin color or a specific culture. A white culture can appropriate from another white culture (Brits from Scots for instance). The key point and defining characteristic that everyone continually misrepresents and keeps missing because they're either not paying attention or willfully ignorant, is when a DOMINANT culture who is in control of the country/city/whatever's society and culture takes something from a MINORITY culture. And if the word MINORITY is what's getting you hung up, it's because they're using the straight up definition of it as in "the one that isn't made up of the most people in a society" which in the US is black people, latinx, Asian, etc.
So in America because WHITES are the dominant culture, they're the ones who perpetrate it on MINORITIES in America. IN AMERICA. They are the ones who have the ability to take from those cultures, use it on their own and not suffer the problems or cultural removal that the minority has to suffer. So a white dude with dreads not suffering from the same stigma as a black person with dreads as well as the lens that the dominant culture separately views them through is what makes it appropriation. Taking the cuisine of Latin immigrants to this country who don't speak perfect English, who can't open spotless and beautiful restaurants, who can't open them in the "good" parts of the city, who can't afford the advertising to promote them and then using the money your dad left you to open a Latin food restaurant right in the middle of the financial district with beautiful chandeliers and a live band and hiring white chefs to cook food that you were inspired to open because you really like burritos and then slapping "Authentic Latin cuisine!" on the front of your store is appropriation.
The reason American cultural appropriation shows up so often is because the lines are the clearest and easiest to see; we do it based on skin color for the most part. It's the biggest visual key for how we appropriate things.
So to take an example, why didn't Japanese people in Japan care what was going on with Ghost in the Shell? They weren't the ones affected by it! They weren't losing parts to white people, they weren't passed over in casting because they looked "too exotic", they weren't called unrelatable by focus groups, they weren't struggling to make it in an industry IN AMERICA where they have to put up with stereotypes and white-washing and all the garbage that Asian-americans have to deal with. Japanese people aren't a minority in America if they're in Japan so Japan doesn't give a fuck what we do; they are here though so the people who are being taken advantage of are the minorities HERE.
What's this whole diatribe about? To show you that it's not inherent racial attributes that matters, it's the power dynamic and who is in the minority.
Forgive my examples if they are not specifically accurate when it comes to certain things because I am not from these cultures. But even with the particulars perhaps being incorrect the genera l thrust of my point should come across from it.
So let's take the example I said above of English people taking something from Scots. Say that Scottish people are a minority in England and England frowned on kilts. And then suddenly some English so and so in high society wears one and they are SO BRAVE and trend-setting. And kilts are now in fashion! Kilts are worn by Brits everywhere, they don't prevent people from getting jobs, they don't get people beat up in the streets or called names, they don't "out" you as a Scottish person because it's okay for YOU to wear them now! But go back in time a bit and before all this if you, as a Scottish person, wanted to wear your kilt in London or at job interviews or while walking by some pubs would you receive the same treatment? Would it be okay for you to wear your culture's garments there during a time when it wasn't the fashion trend of the English themselves? Both of them are white. Both speak the same language. But one of them is still able to direct the flows of culture in their society.
Maybe an easier example. Let's take Poland. 96.9% Polish. But maybe there are bands of Roma travelling through their cities and you can pretty much just look at this website to see how hated Roma are. They're constantly driven out of places, yelled at, beaten up, generally looked down upon. Maybe they are derided for the music they play, maybe it's too folksy or uses an accordion or whatever so people make fun of it, they yell at them for making noise, it's considered music for simpletons and trash people. And then there's a folk revival in Poland and a man who always used to enjoy the Roma music he listened to starts playing that type of music and makes it BIG. He's hugely popular, selling out concerts and CDs and he tours around Europe and begins to beget other German or Danish artists who play Roma music, maybe taking it and putting their own spin on it. And meanwhile the Roma don't have any popular artists, still get yelled at wherever they go, are never mentioned in interviews with this big Polish artist or said off-handedly. He never names any Roma people, never does anything to stop prejudice against Roma, never really acknowledges them outside of interviews. This is appropriation.
And finally let's look at a closer example to the OP of this thread. Say you are in a Middle Eastern country and you are a man. You are a Shiite Muslim and so is 90% of the country. And your country really, REALLY does not like Sunni Muslims. They're basically second class citizens. You look the same, you were born in the same country, but...they don't believe the same stuff. You though, you've never ever been prejudiced against them. Some of your best friends are Sunni Muslims and you have never spoken a bad word against them. Hell, you regularly eat over at your best friend's house and love his cooking. It's really popular among the Sunni community and they have to make it themselves most of the time because restaurants that serve it don't get good business. And if they ask for it at regular restaurants then they get weird looks or told to leave or to order something else. Your friend is comfortable with you coming over but he's had people before who have looked down on him for it before or reacted poorly because it's made with cheap ingredients and whatever he manages to get from the market. You love it so much YOU start making it! And man, you love it so much you want to share it with the world! Your friend is not sure about this and doesn't want to join you on this venture. But man, you just...you gotta let people know! So you host gatherings where you make this food and people think it's so unique and interesting! You have a pretty good job so you get only the best ingredients, maybe even put your own spin on it! Bring some into the office and it's a hit! You get know for making a mean dish and even some friends try their hand at it. But all this time, no one's called you poor or dirty, no one acted disgusted when you fed them it, all the recognition you got was free and clear! And it was for YOU.
As I said, some of the particulars may be off and for that I do apologize but I think this might help people understand this a bit more instead of defaulting to believing this kind of shit only happens in the US. It's more obvious here because of our history or the demographics of our population but if you're in a country like Poland where 96.9% of people are like you and you say you've never heard of this being a problem in your country...do you really think you'd ever hear about it from those 3.1%? If 96.9% of the population controls the way information is spread and regarded and treated?
I dont think violence or hatred are ever ok. I also think we're morphing this conversation a bit too far to Halloween, which is a different subject entirely.
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.albawaba.com/loop/here’s-how-middle-east-views-halloween-761454
That's a stretch considering the actual source material, not what you're attempting to slide in there.
Right and this is just one example. This kind of things happens so often, especially in America where the white portion of society is dominant but takes and commodifies all of its new trends from marginalized groups and these things were often in the past derided until they become hip for white people.
Yeah, I see your point; also note that they call it by the english name, where they could've just used a perfectly italian name for it. Clearly a case of blind fashion trends.
I know you're being facetious but there is, in fact, a very small subset of academic literature concerned with 'Borealism' - otherwise known as the appropriation of Nordic culture.
oh No no Im agreeing with you .I feel people who think white supremecy is right due to "modern science being invented by europeans" are just unaware that over the years many cultures have contributed etc. They just have to think beyond the past 2-3 hundred years. Thats why I find them ignorant and silly rather then get that offended by them.
Of course the whole concept of any race being superior is stupid and has lead to disgusting and troubling behaviour. I was just pointing out that their entire premise of "whites are better because we invented shit" is flawed in the first place. Lots of cultures have invented stuff and have been the most powerful apex civilizatin in the world at varying times in history.
I think "Thor" actually would be a pretty good example of cultural appropriation, except that I've never heard of modern-day pagans claim that it was a problem. Paganism is syncretic anyway, it can combine with a bunch of different traditions and cultures, including American pop cinema, and anyone actually worshiping Thor today is probably happy to admit they're reconstructing ancient worship based on incomplete and unreliable sources, so even their worship is still a modern reinterpretation of the idea, anyway.
I'm sure there are some academics that are concerned about cultural appropriation, and I have no idea what happens on the white supremacist side of Norse paganism, but for 'mainstream' practitioners I don't think this is a going concern.
That entire conversation is nonsense. The film is based of the comic representation that has been around for generations. Mofo's are digging, but not digging that deeply. This "I'm oppressed too" bs is stupid and needs to stop.
I'm not exactly sure why you're trying to drive a wedge between a religious minority and a racial minority, but it's stupid, and it needs to stop.
This is a rather dumb take, because the comic would be just as culturally appropriating, obviously.
And it is cultural appropriation, it's in fact the very definition of it, because we now have a generation of scandinavians growing up where marvels version of the thunder-god is the version they think of when they think of thor, and not the one from their own cultural heritage. Oppression was your own projection.
You don't actually have to be a pagan, or any sort of religious to consider the Norse pantheon part of your cultural heritage.
Recently encountered an what I considered to be a blatant example of this. There is a popular Thai restaurant in Portland, probably the most popular according to Yelp. The white chef went to live in Thailand for a bit and came back to open a restaurant with a decor of a Thai village where all his staff where's stereotypical "villager" uniforms. This part I don't really mind.
However, the chef says on a newspaper interview that he has the only authentic Thai restaurant in town despite there being many Thai restaurants owned by Thai chefs in Portland. The restaurant tries to be trendy by serving more "exotic dishes" and playing old country style Thai music that most Thai people don't even listen to let alone play in a restaurant. The icing on the cake is that the food is not even close to being an authentic flavor that most Thai people would enjoy.
However, the chef says on a newspaper interview that he has the only authentic Thai restaurant in town despite there being many Thai restaurants owned by Thai chefs in Portland. The restaurant tries to be trendy by serving more "exotic dishes" and playing old country style Thai music that most Thai people don't even listen to let alone play in a restaurant. The icing on the cake is that the food is not even close to being an authentic flavor that most Thai people would enjoy.
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Cultural appropriation is ok if it's been happening for a long time?
Also, nobody is using Thor to suggest that they're "oppressed too". They're using him to show how dumb this whole thing is.
Not really. If they had an actual issue they would use something that made actual sense. But they use Thor, but don't call out his grown popularity because of the films, or his use in other places like the new God of War. When you're grasping at straws you get the thinnest most useless straws to work with.
Uncalled for.
"Here is my interracial experience which may be pertinent to a thread entirely about culture"
"YOURE USING YOUR RELATIONSHIP AS A SHIELD"
Nah, that's not what that means at all.
Nope. If you go by the prevailing definition in this thread, Thor is a textbook example.
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There is also "scientific" racism, which resulted in the horrors of Nazism and racist laws in Italy and Germany. That pseudoscience is now recognized as bullshit, but it was one of the many shit theories back in 1890s to 1920s, and was used against Mediterraneans (thought as an inferior mixed race compared to aryans), Africans, Jews and Sinti. I find it particularly scary that this racial profiling is now being echoed in the algorithms that are employed in some courts in America, which ProRepublica found actually producing racist results against basic logic.
Historically speaking, the Roman empire that is adored by Nazis was even actually quite "brown", and spawned from populations that spreaded across the Mediterranean Sea. Greeks were quite darker than we think they were (yes, Brad Pitt is exactly the opposite) and Romans absorbed them just like they absorbed Carthage, Egypt, the modern Turkey. Their legacy was upheld by the Byzantine Empire that became then the Ottoman Empire and then Turkey. Ancient Greece was like, super cool to Romans (like very fancy, Greek was the cool language, not Latin), and Greece was actually part of a bunch of civilizations that spawned around the middle east and spread west and east. Romans did invent a bunch of cool architectural stuff, but they took most of their culture, religions, culture, science etc. from those populations. And we now know that from history, even if it's not always clear enough. But if you believe the myth of the foundation of Rome, the founders were originally from Troy, which is in Turkey - not aryans. So even if white assholes pretend some sort of shit white privilege, Romans thought of themselves as born from the Mediterranean, not the cold winters of Sweden.
So like, up to the 800 D.C. or something, Germanic populations that are the core part of the white power identity were considered uncivilized barbarians because Romans just like Greeks were racist to poeple who weren't in the empire, but you could've been a dark skinned or a black roman, though being a citizen was uncommon by itself.
My own ancestral ancestors are a mix of the native populations of Sardinia that were almost ethnically cleansed once Romans finally could conquer it, Phoenicians and Romans that migrated to the island. We've been considered brutish, low IQ, hairy and short since before Romans even conquered our island. We kept our regional identity and language, but being defined as retarded sheep fuckers is still a common stereotype and it was hard for my parents to even find housing. Up to the late 1800s the socioeconomic situation was pretty bad.
So, in the end, white supremacy has no foundation on either history, science, morality or anything really. Even their core identity is not white, and what they consider their precursors were in fact more related to latinos (Spain and Italy) and northern africans (Algeria, Egypt, Lybia) and middle easterns (Greeks, Turkishs, Armenians, and the populations of the modern Afghanistan, Syria and Iraq, where western civilizations actually come from). Germans were nomadic and relatively behind what people accomplished in the Middle East.
To even bust some more bubbles... Arabs and Hindi were advancing in maths, science while we were doing shit wars in Europe. Columbus didn't fucking discover shit, and Greeks had quite a lot of that astronomy down centuries before. Without Arabs math couldn't have progressed and much of the discoveries of 1300s and 1400s wouldn't have happened.
Lol what the fuck even is this? What a ridiculous statement. Do me a favor and take a break from Era.
According to some people in this thread, he owns a successful business though so it's totally okay.
Well that's because there wasn't actually anything wrong with the example you give, except some people looking for a reason to complain.
If you can understand why the native American headdress is wrong, then you do actually get cultural appropriation.
I think what people should discussing is whether things or actions can be culturally insensitive. Cultural appropriation is an inherently dumb term because its application is way too broad and is something that happens naturally, it has its place in how cultures change and transform. I mean you have weirdos in this thread saying cooking another cultures food is theft lol.
Fucking preach. But watch how you'll barely get quoted by those who really need to read your (or similar) posts.
It's fucking laughable that you think Europe is immune to the negativity that cultural appropriation brings.
You do realize that the United States quite literally derived it's 'melting pot' from the legal exploitation of minorities. There were even protections for this exploitation in the US Constitution before it was amended out.
The idea of a melting pot on the white majority's terms isn't a melting pot at all.
It's pretty obvious why it's a problem when you look at the food industry. Guess how many of the leading salsa producers in the United States have Mexican-American ownership? Then look at how much they profit compared to Mexican-American-owned salsa businesses, while using "ethnic" names and imagery.
jfc this dude. no matter how popular marvels thor gets, it's still cultural appropriation - that's the entire point. it gets so popular that it replaces the original.
of course the use in god of war would also be cultural appropriation, again it's text book - the entire series is, because the use of greek mythology is also cultural appropriation.
but you don't want to acknowledge that such a clear example is appropriating another culture, because why exactly? maybe because you like marvel a bit too much and you really only care about it when it affects you directly?
that's okay, really. but then you should really acknowledge that other people don't find using a hairstyle that you personally think is for your culture only to be an egregious offense.