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I don't think women look "better" with make-up on, am I alone? Does it ever matter what I think?
- Thread starter Soapbox Killer
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Well that depends actually. If his wife wears make up to look pretty for him then it would be about him.
omg you should! i know a few guys (straight, if that means anything) who have started experimenting with tinted moisturisers, concealers and mascara. they look GOOD.
It's not always for you, but contrary to what's being said, sometimes it is about you. If they're in your life and they're that close, feel free to note it.
Otherwise, feel free to ignore.
On a related subject, why are there so many people who always talk about what guys "should wear" to attract women, if y'all clearly understand that people wear the stuff that makes them happy?!
Otherwise, feel free to ignore.
On a related subject, why are there so many people who always talk about what guys "should wear" to attract women, if y'all clearly understand that people wear the stuff that makes them happy?!
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I made the thread knowing full well that I'm a moron when it comes to these things, that's why I asked. I don't want that smoke, just trying to learn and not be a jerk (even when i don't think that I am)
My bad I misread your OP. But yeah same thing applies, she's probably used to doing makeup for TV. I know the type.
Same. You can wear it subtly though meaning in a way to give you that little boost but not enough to make it noticeable.
Men do look good with makeup and you should. Who cares what people think?
They will probably think damn, I wish I was ballsy enough to cover up these pores
It absolutely should be acceptable but I'm glad it's not "mandatory" for us, I've had make up done for photo shoots and it's the worst feeling in the world, lol. Plus I don't even have time for breakfast in the mornings.
Men and women actually look a lot more alike than we think once we strip away all the facial care sans men shaving their faces.
The right amount of eyeliner and/or eye shadow will have everyone checking you out. It's not that it's not socially acceptable, it's just that it's too foreign for most men.
It depends. Makeup can smooth the skin and shave down features in a flattering way. It can also emphasize features or create striking dramatic effects.
The natural look can be great, but obviously it works best for hot people. And like clothing or hairstyling, there's enormous room to apply good or bad taste and technique, and so much variation at every level of complexity.
There are too many factors to make a general statement about whether no makeup is better. Some people excel at everyday makeup that looks like no makeup when you're standing right next to them. Some people are masters of facetune, and you'd never be able to tell what they're altering from their social media alone.
Who even knows what's real anymore?
That said, I've known women who really crust on the makeup, to the point where it looks like they're trying to hide or compensate for something. I can only hope it's their personal preference, and not a result of social pressures or insecurities.
The natural look can be great, but obviously it works best for hot people. And like clothing or hairstyling, there's enormous room to apply good or bad taste and technique, and so much variation at every level of complexity.
There are too many factors to make a general statement about whether no makeup is better. Some people excel at everyday makeup that looks like no makeup when you're standing right next to them. Some people are masters of facetune, and you'd never be able to tell what they're altering from their social media alone.
Who even knows what's real anymore?
That said, I've known women who really crust on the makeup, to the point where it looks like they're trying to hide or compensate for something. I can only hope it's their personal preference, and not a result of social pressures or insecurities.
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The makeup artist works in TV - which is very clearly why her makeup looked good in photos. Makeup can be done to look nice for up close and personal conversations, it can be done to look good for a lens, and it can be done to look good from a distant theater seat. It can serve different purposes.
That being said, I agree. I am not a big fan of when my wife gets her makeup done, but I've learned to just suck it up and say how nice it looks. I just think she's prettier without it....and have made the mistake of saying that.
Also, I find it hilarious that people are repeatedly suggesting that men have no idea what women look like without makeup. OP is talking about his wife (as am I). You think our wives have their makeup on 24/7 and we just never notice when they do it? You realize people see each other right after a shower or even join in the shower?
That being said, I agree. I am not a big fan of when my wife gets her makeup done, but I've learned to just suck it up and say how nice it looks. I just think she's prettier without it....and have made the mistake of saying that.
Also, I find it hilarious that people are repeatedly suggesting that men have no idea what women look like without makeup. OP is talking about his wife (as am I). You think our wives have their makeup on 24/7 and we just never notice when they do it? You realize people see each other right after a shower or even join in the shower?
Don't worry about it. No matter what kind of benign question you can think to ask someone will find a way to shit on you. Your OP was fine and employed some actual thought.
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My wife knows what I like in general but if she has something that is new or a color she thinks I "might" dig she'll ask me.
Pre-wife: Women used to ask my opinion often because I got into this level 2 friend zone iffy kinda place in my younger single days.
Ah, gotcha. When someone asks for your opinion you can give it safely.
I'm pretty sure my wife doesn't wear make up for me but more so because she enjoys how it makes her look. She doesn't wear a lot, it's pretty subtle. I'm happy either way. She's beautiful with or without makeup.
I also think my wife doesn't need makeup but it isn't about what I think. It's about what makes her feel better about herself.
That isn't what you are supposed to say at all to someone who just put a lot of time and effort into makeup.
If it makes them feel better about themselves then whatever but I dont care if they do or not. To me I'm looking at eyes and smiles
This didn't get the love it deserves.We're morons, sorry.
I wish that were the case moreso for the perspective it would bring. Makeup ain't easy, starting myself has given me so much more appreciation for those who pull it off, and good lord do I understand those who don't bother.
You are free to have your opinion and voice it. She is free to not care what you think. It's probably good to not be negative when someone has put in a lot of effort and is pleased with the way they look.
My wife gives me constant updates about how I look - some I take on board, some I ignore.
My wife gives me constant updates about how I look - some I take on board, some I ignore.
My GF is objectively a stunningly gorgeous woman, when she wakes up first thing in the morning with no makeup she is honestly just as beautiful to me as anyone I've ever seen.
She doesn't know how beautiful she is, due to some lingering issues from her childhood. She wears makeup because she feels better when she does, but I honestly don't really notice a difference. I think her face is just that amazing.
she feels better with it on, so be it. She really has no idea how attractive she is. It's amazing to me how oblivious to people doing double-takes as she walks down the street.
she has insecurities about her appearance, yet she's confident. She's funny and smart and knows it.
she never wears skirts or 'sexy' clothing, literally never seen her in a dress. Just not her style. sometimes I think if I saw her in a little black cocktail dress I'd probably have a heart attack.
funny thing about her makeup, she doesn't wear noticeable stuff. She mostly uses a concealer, which is funny to me because her skin is flawless. It's really fascinating in a way to see how skewed her own self-image is compared to how the rest of the world sees her. The human brain really is a doozy sometimes.
i tell her all the time how beautiful she is, and she's starting to believe it. She's not getting a big head, but her self-esteem related to her appearance is slowly improving
She doesn't know how beautiful she is, due to some lingering issues from her childhood. She wears makeup because she feels better when she does, but I honestly don't really notice a difference. I think her face is just that amazing.
she feels better with it on, so be it. She really has no idea how attractive she is. It's amazing to me how oblivious to people doing double-takes as she walks down the street.
she has insecurities about her appearance, yet she's confident. She's funny and smart and knows it.
she never wears skirts or 'sexy' clothing, literally never seen her in a dress. Just not her style. sometimes I think if I saw her in a little black cocktail dress I'd probably have a heart attack.
funny thing about her makeup, she doesn't wear noticeable stuff. She mostly uses a concealer, which is funny to me because her skin is flawless. It's really fascinating in a way to see how skewed her own self-image is compared to how the rest of the world sees her. The human brain really is a doozy sometimes.
i tell her all the time how beautiful she is, and she's starting to believe it. She's not getting a big head, but her self-esteem related to her appearance is slowly improving
Typically, if you start your take off with "I'm not a sexist, but", it's probably not going to be very good.
That's super sweet of her friends to do that for her. That's honestly the first thing that came to mind.
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Did my OP sound sexist to you (or any one)?
If so my apologies, I tried to frame my question from the point of learning and not telling. Perhaps I did not do so well. My Bad. I really didn't know if other people shared the same opinion as I. I wasn't trying to imply anything else.
We're morons, sorry.
This is generally the truth. Personally I do prefer how my wife looks without makeup but she also looks great with it and it makes her more confident. I'm happy either way.
As far as "unpacking" though, it's pretty clear cut, right? OP can have an opinion on his wife's makeup but also women don't necessarily wear makeup for men. Doesn't seem that complex.
If I see a powder like texture on someone's face, they've gone overboard. Cake face is like, really uncomfortable to look at. Looks like their skin would fall apart if someone touched their face. WAY worse than a bad complexion.
Not only that, but hiding any and every flaw looks horribly unnatural and hits the uncanny valley.
Light make up or no make up looks best.
Eyeliner makes everyone look amazing however. Not gonna lie, I really have a thing for heavy eyeliner.
Lipstick is cool, too. I like darker colors.
Anyway, most people who like makeup usually do it to impress other makeup wearers, from what I hear.
Not only that, but hiding any and every flaw looks horribly unnatural and hits the uncanny valley.
Light make up or no make up looks best.
Eyeliner makes everyone look amazing however. Not gonna lie, I really have a thing for heavy eyeliner.
Lipstick is cool, too. I like darker colors.
Anyway, most people who like makeup usually do it to impress other makeup wearers, from what I hear.
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Making a thread about your wife looking uglier because she has makeup on to prepare for a specific event is a decent amount to unpack. OP can have whatever the fuck opinion they want about the way the makeup looks. But to turn it into a public thread about their judgments is completely off base and frankly embarrassing.
Yeah, I think it's weird that OP even felt like they had to make this thread. Kind of seems like they're overly worried about not being progressive enough cause they had a thought about their wife's makeup?
The way I see it, it's part of her outfit in the same way as her shoes/pants etc. She chose her shoes because she liked the way they look, not because she cares what guys think. Same goes for makeup.
This also reminded of of this post on r/amitheasshole today.
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This also reminded of of this post on r/amitheasshole today.
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I think you're onto something here, there is a great discussion to be had from the concerns in the op.