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I find Marvel movies to be vastly mediocre. Why do they keep breaking records?

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Fiery Phoenix

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Oct 26, 2017
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Real talk. The last truly great superhero movie I remember seeing was The Dark Knight, and that’s not even Marvel.
 

P-MAC

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Nov 15, 2017
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I don’t like thing. Why do others?

Is this what you’re asking ?

They are well made films with great actors based around some beloved stories in an ongoing narrative.
 

Veelk

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Oct 25, 2017
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I too cannot comprehend how people can possibly have different tastes than I do. Does everyone simply not understand I am the center of the universe?
 

FeD

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Can you give some reasons what you find mediocre about them?
 

Adventureracing

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Nov 7, 2017
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Marvel movies offer a consistent level of quality. When you go see one you can be confident that you’re seeing a pretty good movie even if it isn’t amazing. Generally speaking they’re always among the top blockbusters each year.
 

Powdered Egg

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People want superheroes to save them because we had a recession and the entire generation has student loan debt.
 

Mr.Deadshot

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I really like them, but I thinks it's enough now. Move on to something new. Yeah I know they won't as long as they are successful.
 

Emergency & I

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There is some nice plotting and decent one-liners. The ambition is cool too. That said, it’s all really same-y in tone and super forgettable. Enjoyably bland.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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simple. never really challenging the mind. big explosions. lots of marketing. large pool of recognized characters that are sort of ingrained in the populace.
 

Keldroc

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Because they're great quality entertainment, and the furthest thing from mediocre.

You want mediocre, go watch the new Godzilla movie.

I really like them, but I thinks it's enough now. Move on to something new. Yeah I know they won't as long as they are successful.
I would have said that before seeing Spider-Man yesterday. Now I'm 100% back on board for Phase 4.
 

Veelk

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Oct 25, 2017
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Why is McDonalds popular?
This too. While I do think Marvel does a great job in a lot of areas that earns their success, so I don't agree that this is a perfect analogy, there's this constant fallacy among people that if something is successful, it must be an indicator of some objective quality. Which is almost never the case.

IMO, the most successful products of any industry tend to be the most accessible.
 

Indelible

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Oct 27, 2017
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I don't know how anyone could think Infinity War is mediocre, the amount of skill it takes to pull off that big of an ensemble is incredible. I'am a little burnt out on Marvel but I can still recognize that they are well made films.
 

Keyser S

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Oct 26, 2017
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I dislike Sopranos, and I think a three Godfather films are bad. That is my opinion, but it does not make me right
 

Poimandres

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I mean, the same criticism could honestly be thrown at most of the highest selling musicians, food, consumer products in general. Most people don't want challenging or paradigm shattering things, they want easy good times (most of the time).

Why are they super popular? They are excellent at what they do. It's not easy to make blockbuster films, and that they've pulled off 20+ connected films is a huge acheivement even if you're not into them.
 

3bdelilah

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Oct 26, 2017
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Because, quite frankly, in an ocean filled of people that do like these movies, your opinion is like a drop in said ocean. Honestly what more do you want us to say? People like comic book and superhero movies, and they like it even more if their superheroes feature in the same movies as an ensemble. It's not exactly rocket science. I doubt people consider them pinnacle of film making, but they've proven for over a decade now that they're a lot of fun to a lot of people.
 

swift-darius

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the immediate backlash toward anybody expressing distaste for the big zeitgeist franchise stifles any sort of more serious critique or analysis of these films. I don't care for them myself, and I think there is a discussion to be had about their tremendous box office success and resonance with the public, but it's just not worth it when you're immediately gonna get the old man yells at cloud treatment. sorry I don't like the thing I guess?
 

John Kowalski

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Oct 27, 2017
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They're not breaking quality records. They're accessible movies that require little effort to watch and that have a modicum of quality. Also the interconnectivity of the movies and the fact that they span years of your life is obviously made to make them feel like they're a part of your life.

The people who watch these movies are not the kind that would see for example Son of Saul, Mustang or something like that and actually notice the extreme levels of quality of those movies. It's just not their thing.

Popularity is never an endorsement!!
 
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Fiery Phoenix

Fiery Phoenix

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Oct 26, 2017
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I mean, the same criticism could honestly be thrown at most of the highest selling musicians, food, consumer products in general. Most people don't want challenging or paradigm shattering things, they want easy good times (most of the time).

Why are they super popular? They are excellent at what they do. It's not easy to make blockbuster films, and that they've pulled off 20+ connected films is a huge acheivement even if you're not into them.
It’s definitely an impressive achievement. That they’re accessible to basically everyone regardless of age is why I personally think they’re so successful. Not much to do with quality.
 

overcast

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Oct 25, 2017
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It’s a known quantity. The most average, popcorn entertainment money can buy every single time. It’s perfect for groups of people and it hits across every demographic really.

It’s mediocrity down to a science. It makes perfect sense that they consistently do well at the BO honestly.
 

Raysoul

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Oct 26, 2017
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Marvel movies are like amusement rides. They are fun and accessible. But amusement rides won't get any accolades as an art form.
 

Porky

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That.. explains a lot, actually.
lmao you really wanted to take it down the junk-food cinema path, didn't you?

They're entertaining and easy to watch, I'm not sure why that's so hard to grasp. I'm not a huge fan of the films but if you can't see how strong their branding and characters are, then you need to look harder. Not to mention Marvel are pretty much the first studio to nail a cinematic universe. Which means with each film somebody watches, they're deeper in to the lore of the world which creates a snowball effect when it comes to finale films such as Infinity War and Endgame breaking records.
 

Jombie

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Oct 27, 2017
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The Dark Knight is a dumb movie propped up by a great performance.

The MCU movies, especially recently, are solid at worst. They have great, relatable characters and they've been hugely successful with long-formstorytelling. We also live in a hellscape and people like escapism. It's not hard to understand.
 

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Oct 25, 2017
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they're very family friendly humorous movies made for wide audiences, good enough to make people care about the gimmick of heroes teaming up together.

the stellar cast helps a lot too
 
Oct 27, 2017
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So sick and tired of this opinion. We get it, you don't like the MCU. Go back to watching proper art house flicks like Pitch perfect and The Angry Birds movie and leave us to our dreck.
 

CloudWolf

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Oct 26, 2017
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Mediocrity sells.

Some of the MCU is good. Iron Man, Iron Man 3, Thor Ragnarok, The Winter Soldier, Black Panther, Guardians of the Galaxy 2 and Endgame are all films I enjoy a lot.

But I agree, most of the MCU is very middle of the road, but they are basically factory-made to have mass appeal. It's the McDonalds of movies.
 

Danielsan

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Oct 26, 2017
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I'm in the same boat. I think they are mediocre cookie cutter movies. But I think they're successful exactly because they are in-offensive "shut off your brain for a couple of hours" movies.
 
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